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Old 03-03-2013, 10:07 PM   #1
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Default Detained For Silence: The Return of McCarthyism

Watch the libs come out in support of this obviously politically motivated violation of human rights perpetrated by the Obama administration.

Civil liberties advocates are raising alarm over the treatment and detention of three Seattle area activists with ties to area anarchist collectives and the Occupy Wall Street movement. “The Grand Jury Resistors,” as they’re referred to by the area bloggers, have become subculture icons within the activist circles since their detention in September, for refusing to answer questions regarding their political affiliations and contacts.

The questions come purportedly as part of a larger federal investigation into the May 5th “May Day” protests, during which substantial amounts of property were damaged and vandalized.

According to Matthew Duran, Katherine Olejnik and Maddie Pfeiffer, all of whom are presently in solitary confinement at the SeaTac Federal Detention Center under (civil) contempt charges, the questioning and subsequent detentions are part of a greater effort by the federal authorities to crack down on activists and dissidents.

The FDC (Federal Detention Center) has declined to state to the press or to the lawyers of the detained, exactly why the three are being held in solitary. However, Brendan Kiley of the Seattle news site, “The Stranger,” notes in his most recent piece that their move from the standard pre-trial general population units to the Special Housing Unit (SHU), came after the publication of an article about visiting with Duran and Olejink in which they describe the events of the secret grand-jury hearing.

Kiley reports that during the questioning by the federal prosecutors, Olejnik was asked only four basic questions regarding the “May Day” vandalism. All the other questions were unrelated to the event and were mostly demands that she identify activists, their political beliefs and their social networks.
Despite having a verifiable alibi, placing her at her job in Olympia during the time of the “May Day” protests and no charges related to the investigation (or any at all) filed against her, it was her refusal to participate in what she calls a political “witch hunt”, landed her under lock and key. Shortly after their interview and the publication of Kiley’s article,” Olejnik, Duran and Pfeiffer were abruptly transferred from the general population into solitary confinement. Their access to everything from basic writing and correspondence supplies to communication with their attorneys were drastically reduced.

In a series of letters, published on the anarchist blog “nopoliticalrepression,” Pfeiffer states;

“My main frustration thus far has been that, despite my many requests, I have still not been able to call my lawyer. It has been more than a month and I have not even seen so much as a response to my requests.”

He goes on to state…

“Regardless of that, I am generally in good spirits and I am looking forward to the day when I can thank everyone, in person, for their support.”

Olejnik expressed similar frustrations, citing that the stationary and writing implements needed just to pen her correspondence were surprisingly hard to come by.

No one is absolutely certain why the three were detained without charge and held in solitary confinement, aside from their vocal political beliefs and affiliations and refusal to identify other activists. Human rights and civil liberties activists and advocates are asking more questions and demanding more answers against the backdrop of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA,) and the imprisonment of the Army Private Bradley Manning. The aspects surrounding the use of solitary confinement are raising new issues regarding the government’s treatment of political dissidents and those regarded as threats.

On the topic of solitary confinement, critics from the Left and Right often find themselves united, with Senator John McCain’s writings cited frequently; “(Solitary) crushes your spirit and weakens your resistance more effectively than any other form of mistreatment,” echoing the cries of activists throughout the political spectrum.

Thursday, a rally is being organized at the court, coinciding with a scheduled hearing. A judge will hear arguments by the lawyers representing Duran and Olejnik, arguing that they should be freed if the state does not plan to charge them with a crime. The state’s apparent failure to coerce the detainees to answer unrelated questions after nearly five months without results, stand as grounds to release them. Citing numerous statements by the two declaring that they will not be “broken,” it may prove a hard sell for the state to justify keeping them detained for the full eighteen months allowed by the law.

Organizers of the event are calling for area activists to “Pack the courtroom for Matt and Kteeo,” as a sign of solidarity with the imprisoned activists. It is hoped that this demonstration will not only pressure the court to release them, but will serve to draw further notice to the increasingly aggressive nature of federal prosecutions in these times of political and social unrest.


Yes. This happened in America.

http://www.progressivepress.net/deta...f-mccarthyism/
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:37 AM   #2
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Maybe I'm hopelessly outdated and optimistic, but I seem to recall learning, a VERY long time ago, that this is what the writ of habeas corpus is all about.
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Old 03-04-2013, 07:30 AM   #3
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1. Every story I see indicates they were released last week.

2. They were jailed for civil contempt for refusing to answer questions during a grand jury investigation.

Sometimes it is hard to remember that you are a lawyer silly old man. You remember the part of law school where they told you that when a witness is sworn and under cross-examination that the judge can order the witness to answer questions? And, if the witness refuses to comply with the court's orders, they can be held in contempt? And put in jail? Is any of this ringing a bell? You remember courts? And laws? And how society relies on those things to function?

Go read before you start quacking about the 5th Amendment. You do remember that one, right?
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:02 AM   #4
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Cuteoldguy...you are funny. Liberals are the ones who protest violations of law, rights, and liberties of individuals and groups. If you paid real attention, you would find that the motivation behind the arrests came from (once again) a bunch of RIGHT WING locals. It had nothing to do with liberals, democrats, or the Obama admin.
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:58 AM   #5
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arrrrgh ... COF bitch slapped AGAIN!
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Old 03-04-2013, 12:40 PM   #6
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BACK IN THE CORNER AGAIN!

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Old 03-04-2013, 01:12 PM   #7
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Cuteoldguy...you are funny. Liberals are the ones who protest violations of law, rights, and liberties of individuals and groups.
Really? What planet are you living on? I seem to remember protests against violations of rights and liberties on BOTH sides of the aisle. Liberals might be big on "group" rights, but they have been piss poor on individual rights in a lot of recent controversies. Take some time and read about the groups that oppose abuse of the Takings Clause (Supreme Court Kelo decision) and restrictions on second amendment rights. Few liberals there. Also take a look at the groups that oppose speech codes on university campuses and violations of states rights by the federal government. And both the left and the right protest different violations of freedom of religion.
If you paid real attention, you would find that the motivation behind the arrests came from (once again) a bunch of RIGHT WING locals.
Really? Seattle has right wingers? Name them. Got a link? Because these guys were thrown in jail by a judge for CIVIL contempt. Do you know the political affiliations of the judge - since he or she is the reason they are in jail?
It had nothing to do with liberals, democrats, or the Obama admin.
Probably not, but it had nothing to do with right-wingers either.
What color is the sky in your world Wixchill?
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:27 PM   #8
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I agree with EXNYer. This isn't a partisan issue. It's a STUPID THREAD!
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I agree with EXNYer. This isn't a partisan issue. It's a STUPID THREAD!
A "STUPID THREAD?"

Would you expect anything different from a StupidOldLyingFart? I thinck not!
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I'm pretty sure there are exactly zero right wingers in Seattle. In the city limits at least.
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I'm pretty sure there are exactly zero right wingers in Seattle. In the city limits at least.
They might let in a few to prop up the tax base. You have to have SOME income earners to make a city run.
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:18 PM   #12
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Whats your point CC?
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:29 PM   #13
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What do you think it is?
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I don't know, why don't you tell me?
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"Keep Seattle Weird"
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