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01-11-2022, 02:18 PM
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Hustla Extraodinaire
Join Date: Mar 21, 2010
Location: Kansas City, Mo
Posts: 2,425
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Rates
I'll probably get flamed for this, but I think it's worth discussing. This is for our providers.
The new rates aren't going to work - at least for me and I'm probably not even the client you're going after. But if the rates don't work for a single, childless man earning six figures, I'm sure the rates aren't going to work for other people, either. Before you get mad, we are seeing ladies charging $500 for the hour. Sometimes, this is for a single pop, non-gfe experience. Most of these are for outcalls (no hotel room expense). A search of tryst shows some women charging $800 for an hour. Ladies, this is too much.
We get that you earn a living and this is your job. We get that you put up with TONS of shit (I'm guilty of being an asshole client). But we simply don't earn enough to pay some of these outrageous fees.
There have been many discussions on this topic in the men's room. It's not fair for you all to not have this feedback. The concensus seems to be that $250 - $400 a hour should be the going rate for an incall, gfe experience. Does anyone disagree with this? If so, please share with us what's a more fair range and why do you feel that?
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01-11-2022, 03:53 PM
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Gaining Momentum
Join Date: Jun 5, 2017
Location: KC, MO
Posts: 60
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The OP says this is for the providers. It rarely works that way, guys are going to chime-in.
The ladies rates are demand driven; as long as there is sufficient demand for them to maintain the level of business they need/desire at current rates, there is no reason for the ladies to lower rates.
If enough clients stop participating and demand declines, rates will adjust.
Like Captain, I choose NOT to participate at $400-$500+. I could if I wanted to; I just don't want to.
I have a couple favorite UTR, ex-ECCIE ladies I host frequently that are happy to visit me at my place in the lower-end of the "consensus" range.
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01-11-2022, 04:40 PM
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Mar 25, 2010
Location: Kansas
Posts: 591
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My regular charges 200 all inclusive. Not sure why I'd pay 3-4x that for less, even if I can. Not sure why I'd pay a high rate for a non gfe who won't take it up the rear without upcharging, and won't do COF.
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01-11-2022, 04:42 PM
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Mar 6, 2014
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 1,762
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Originally Posted by CaptainKaos
I'll probably get flamed for this, but I think it's worth discussing. This is for our providers.
The new rates aren't going to work - at least for me and I'm probably not even the client you're going after. But if the rates don't work for a single, childless man earning six figures, I'm sure the rates aren't going to work for other people, either. Before you get mad, we are seeing ladies charging $500 for the hour. Sometimes, this is for a single pop, non-gfe experience. Most of these are for outcalls (no hotel room expense). A search of tryst shows some women charging $800 for an hour. Ladies, this is too much.
We get that you earn a living and this is your job. We get that you put up with TONS of shit (I'm guilty of being an asshole client). But we simply don't earn enough to pay some of these outrageous fees.
There have been many discussions on this topic in the men's room. It's not fair for you all to not have this feedback. The concensus seems to be that $250 - $400 a hour should be the going rate for an incall, gfe experience. Does anyone disagree with this? If so, please share with us what's a more fair range and why do you feel that?
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There aren't a lot of folks willing to fork out 800-1000 for an hour. Especially here in the Midwest.
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01-11-2022, 04:44 PM
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Mar 25, 2010
Location: Kansas
Posts: 591
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Originally Posted by KCAsianDude
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There aren't a lot of folks willing to fork out 800-1000 for an hour. Especially here in the Midwest.
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I'm seeing a bunch more travellers on P411 listing at that range. For that much, I'll fly to Dallas for 2 days, get 3 girls and then come home.
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01-11-2022, 04:50 PM
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Account Disabled
Join Date: Sep 12, 2018
Location: In a House Gentleman Jack Built
Posts: 381
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Originally Posted by super_delfin00
I'm seeing a bunch more travellers on P411 listing at that range. For that much, I'll fly to Dallas for 2 days, get 3 girls and then come home.
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Yep.
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01-11-2022, 04:51 PM
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Premium Access
Join Date: Nov 14, 2017
Location: On the reservation in Oklahoma and Florida
Posts: 4,395
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I've pretty much stopped paying more than the 2 to 300 range. Here in Florida I'm seeing some of them lowering prices because guys have quit seeing them. The right or left hand is FREE and you can Kiss the mirror. LOL
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01-11-2022, 06:08 PM
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Jun 11, 2015
Location: Missouri
Posts: 1,444
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Capt excellent post but I am highly doubtful you going to get any responses from ladies for the reason you mentioned "getting flamed" as the lady who speaks up is worried for the same reason. Just my thought.
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01-11-2022, 06:45 PM
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Join Date: Oct 18, 2013
Location: Florida/ KC
Posts: 2,154
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They’re going to charge 300 or more no matter what. But the question is are you going to pay?
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01-11-2022, 07:14 PM
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Premium Access
Join Date: Feb 25, 2011
Location: Kansas
Posts: 7,857
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BREAKING NEWS:
Its been 5 hrs since the OP posted this...and
Im checking the Hooker stock market for a dip in rates!
NOPE NO CHANGE!
Back to regular programming.
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01-11-2022, 09:10 PM
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Account Disabled
Join Date: Oct 7, 2020
Location: KC
Posts: 37
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The problem for regular guys is the reach women have today. They can extend their business through OnlyFans, Twitter, Instagram, and other resources. From there, a guy making $300k can fly her out to him, pay her $800/hr. It's a drop in the bucket for him.
Then you get to the regular people who make $80-100k. It's not going to kill him to spend $800/hr, but he has other financial obligations to worry about.
Personally the absolute highest I would go is $300. After that, I would just rely on tinder/bumble hookups and the right hand.
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01-11-2022, 10:24 PM
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Jan 9, 2010
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 459
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Let's say the lady gets $800 for one session per day. Isn't that easier than 3-4 sessions at a lower rate? That's how a past regular explained it to me. I think if you guys settle on one lady and see her regularly, you can negotiate a rate lower than a one-time visit. That is what I have been doing for years.
Just my 2 cents.
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01-12-2022, 05:12 AM
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Premium Access
Join Date: Jan 4, 2011
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 93
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Sounds like someone is headed back to the Avenue.
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01-12-2022, 06:48 AM
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Chasing a Cowgirl
Join Date: Oct 19, 2013
Location: West Kansas
Posts: 31,428
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Originally Posted by Lubeman
They’re going to charge 300 or more no matter what. But the question is are you going to pay?
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But, other guys will, so .....
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01-12-2022, 07:03 AM
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Premium Access
Join Date: Jul 7, 2019
Location: kansas city
Posts: 2,042
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Originally Posted by kansascitynoname
The problem for regular guys is the reach women have today. They can extend their business through OnlyFans, Twitter, Instagram, and other resources. From there, a guy making $300k can fly her out to him, pay her $800/hr. It's a drop in the bucket for him.
Then you get to the regular people who make $80-100k. It's not going to kill him to spend $800/hr, but he has other financial obligations to worry about.
Personally the absolute highest I would go is $300. After that, I would just rely on tinder/bumble hookups and the right hand.
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I get what you're saying but that's not at all the norm. If it was all these gals traveling to KC and charging 500 to 1K per on p411 wouldn't be traveling here getting hotels, and other expenses. Obviously there are gents here willing to foot the bill or they wouldn't be visiting here. As has been posted support local ladies who will work with regular long term clients, and decide if you're willing to make the occasional splurge.
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