*Important Information* Make sure to ask about a reference check.

[Dasani]

Hey guys, I just want to remind you to check with the provider about reference checks.

I just had an appointment booked with a client from **** (that's new here) and he used a well know provider as a reference. Well I called to check to confirm and clear. And this client that had been a repeat was not comfirmed or cleared. Due to the fact the provider is not giving any past clients a clear reference.

So I will say this....
make sure the providers you see will clear you when they are not in the mood.

Good luck...

P.S. You have about 30days before my new system starts to take affect.

[Guest082413-1]

Thank you for mentioning this, Nina. I despise women who refrain from giving references. It makes the provider look bad and greedy. I always give a vouch for a client and challenge my clients to find a better, classier or even unique provider that is unfamiliar. I know what I offer and that my services are stellar, so the challenge intrigues me. Often time, my repeat clients will crawl back to me for another session after their vouched session with a new provider and apologize for not seeing me in that they were disappointed with their experience with the other provider (e.g. looks, immaturity, poor incall, rushed session). A lady must have confidence in herself and understand that men want variety.

[Guest060812]

Heck, isn't this why we have P411?

[mahler]

courtesy (and good sense) require that a man ask for permission to use a womans name for a reference.

[Dasani]

This is a challenge for me, because I have not had this happen in years. I tend to stray away from calling other providers because of this in the past. And the fact, that I found it some-what peaceful, not being so personal, with the clients business. (Leads to more than you bargain for, if not done right.)

Well, things have changed for me over the years. (I'm alittle more important & I have fans, real fans, so may be crazy fans.) And I feel that alittle extra safety, during this next year at-least, until the goverment leaves, with the extra Homeland, All star & Superbowl military security. (Which are more than welcome here at N.I.N.A. Enterprise.) Would be relaxing.

Hey but I'm a professional, so I know how to carry myself, in the toughest moment, so this client ended up being a sweetheart ....Like a good boy.

Now I hope in a way, guys plan for this delay, that just may, occur on any-day.

PS... Put P411 on the top of your to do list or get verified before February 28, 2010 by me.

[Carrie Hillcrest]

YES. In addition to making sure the ladies give references, please double check that they are still active, established, and that you saw them recently (most ladies prefer within the last 6 months, I'm personally okay with up to a year).

I had someone contact me recently with three references. One has stated publicly that she doesn't give (or accept) references as screening (totally her choice, and I am not knocking her for it), the second he only had a first name and phone number for -- and Googling the phone number returned NO results, and the third had retired over a year ago.

And he proceeds to get snippy with me, insisting that his ladies are high quality and he doesn't do this very often and I should just trust him and yadda yadda yadda.

Sigh. Don't be that guy, guys. At best, it makes you look like a tool, at worst, it makes you look like a psycho/LE/other undesirable.

[Dasani]

Originally Posted by Carrie Hillcrest

YES. In addition to making sure the ladies give references, please double check that they are still active, established, and that you saw them recently (most ladies prefer within the last 6 months, I'm personally okay with up to a year).

I had someone contact me recently with three references. One has stated publicly that she doesn't give (or accept) references as screening (totally her choice, and I am not knocking her for it), the second he only had a first name and phone number for -- and Googling the phone number returned NO results, and the third had retired over a year ago.

And he proceeds to get snippy with me, insisting that his ladies are high quality and he doesn't do this very often and I should just trust him and yadda yadda yadda.

Sigh. Don't be that guy, guys. At best, it makes you look like a tool, at worst, it makes you look like a psycho/LE/other undesirable.

Seems that was an issue too. After I completed making this a success, I spoke with the young lady, which went on about not knowing because of laps of time. (Yet key memory information was used.) So I understand, where you maybe coming from, on the time line of using a reference.

(I say if I can remember our time together I will co-sign for you.)
Also I don't want others to be confused, I will and always have gave out references. (I just didn't find it that easy to get references.)

PS If I'm used as a reference, please have their name, nickname that I may know (I use this key a-lot oppose to first & last name after cleared), if the last session was incall or outcall, location intersection (if incall), type of session (ex. dom, wrestling, companionship ect.).

[travelling_man]

Originally Posted by omaha2dallas

Heck, isn't this why we have P411?

Not always - I signed up for the free 6 month trial and it worked great. But at this point I've seen enough girls that I can always give 5-10 references depending on what the lady I'm seeing wants. I don't feel it is necessary to get P411 if you have plenty of good references. I see the benefit for either the newbie that has no other references or if you do a lot of last minute appts and need a ref check immediately. But for a girl to CHARGE for screening???? haha! good luck with that one~

[Dasani]

Originally Posted by travelling_man

Not always - I signed up for the free 6 month trial and it worked great. But at this point I've seen enough girls that I can always give 5-10 references depending on what the lady I'm seeing wants. I don't feel it is necessary to get P411 if you have plenty of good references. I see the benefit for either the newbie that has no other references or if you do a lot of last minute appts and need a ref check immediately. But for a girl to CHARGE for screening???? haha! good luck with that one~

This is all correct... just one thing. If done right, ladies charging for their own screening can be beneficial to a client like you or a provider like me.

Less back & forth problems. (Remember time is money, and it take more time, than the equivalent of the money, you are owed sometime, if you collect anything.)

Clearing problematic clients which can be stressful for me. (Should have a price on it. It's still time being sold. That's what we are selling right?) This can in-turn change my normal balance &/or mood. Now here is where it's a problem for you, the guy who just want to have a great time and respect the business.

When you call (*a regular) I'm not in a good mood because I have been trying to clear a jerk for 45 minutes and I'm completely frustrated because the info was not correct in the first place. And 45minutes is $200 worth of work. My point exactly.



*just an ex.