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11-19-2015, 06:56 AM
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The "Mastermind" of Paris attacks is dead
I have heard so much about the "mastermind" of the Paris attacks and how much planning had to go into this cowardly attack. CNN & Fox and it seems like every news outlet speaks of this scum bag like he was this brilliant military mind. IMO nothing could be further from the truth. It would not be difficult to kill innocent bystanders in mass when you have a handful of like minded people who want to die killing as many people as possible. I don't recall McVey being described as a mastermind having great military strategies rolling around in his fucked up head.
Can someone please explain to me what was so complicated about this attack? What took so much planning and genius to kill 129 people?
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11-19-2015, 07:03 AM
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I think that certain words are overused and you could be onto another one. Often, I'll hear of an actor who does something relatively normal, or going through some trial, and he's "So brave. So courageous."
Nah. He's an actor with some press.
So being a "mastermind" doesn't have that much meaning to me when I'm reading a news article about someone like this person.
HOWEVER, it must take SOME cunning to convince people to kill themselves for a cause. Honestly, I've never really understood that and I've studied Catholic saints.
Guess that I have more of a survivor instinct. Or perhaps I'm morally bankrupt.
Anywho ... I don't see that person as a "mastermind" in the traditional sense of the word. Perhaps suggesting that he had leadership skills would be more accurate?
But it wouldn't sound as good, would it?
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11-19-2015, 07:09 AM
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When someone is willing to die for what ever cause they believe in, it takes very little in the way of sophisticated equipment to cause mass destruction.
The Japanese Kamikazi Pilots of WW-2 were a very good example. By the simple act of not trying to come out alive, they were able to cause tremendous damage and loss of if in comparison to the effort put forth.
Remember. It only takes one to be sussessful in order to cause major mayhem.
There are estimated 1.5 Billion Muslims in the World. But, they say, only 5 % really believe in this international Jihad.
Do the math.
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11-19-2015, 07:15 AM
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At least it didn't take the French months or years to kill him. He and his compatriots were probably getting a couple of govt checks from the French or Belgiums so he wasn't so hard to track down.
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11-19-2015, 07:22 AM
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Why didn't you volunteer to solve the case, Budman? Seems like you've got all the answers and are quite the military strategist. With you at the helm, we'd wipe out everybody, right?
As for the way the MSM ...especially FOX, the most mainstream of them all ...characterizes ANY actor in a terror attack... I'm sure you can provide us the answer.
If it was that easy, why haven't you already done it? I'd like to know why Ted Cruz hasn't brought everybody to justice. Right, he's busy running his mouth.
I'm sure you could just take a page out of your hero McVeigh's book. Easy peezy!
Idiot Jihad!
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11-19-2015, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ElisabethWhispers
I think that certain words are overused and you could be onto another one. Often, I'll hear of an actor who does something relatively normal, or going through some trial, and he's "So brave. So courageous."
Nah. He's an actor with some press.
So being a "mastermind" doesn't have that much meaning to me when I'm reading a news article about someone like this person.
HOWEVER, it must take SOME cunning to convince people to kill themselves for a cause. Honestly, I've never really understood that and I've studied Catholic saints.
Guess that I have more of a survivor instinct. Or perhaps I'm morally bankrupt.
Anywho ... I don't see that person as a "mastermind" in the traditional sense of the word. Perhaps suggesting that he had leadership skills would be more accurate?
But it wouldn't sound as good, would it?
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Very well put. I would add that all actors who are quite successful realize they are famous for very shallow reasons, and they strive to add meaning and importance to what they do - and they love their press agents!
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11-19-2015, 07:48 AM
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At least it didn't take the French months or years to kill him.
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The French also sent a message to "landlords" who "facilitate" the cowards with "safe housing"! Under the suspension of rights I suspect also is suspended the concept of reimbursement for "domaine éminent par la force" ...
BTW: Did the little turd actually die in the hail storm visited upon the "flat"?
The fuckers in there killed a dog.
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11-19-2015, 07:56 AM
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Why didn't you volunteer to solve the case, Budman? Seems like you've got all the answers and are quite the military strategist. With you at the helm, we'd wipe out everybody, right?
As for the way the MSM ...especially FOX, the most mainstream of them all ...characterizes ANY actor in a terror attack... I'm sure you can provide us the answer.
If it was that easy, why haven't you already done it? I'd like to know why Ted Cruz hasn't brought everybody to justice. Right, he's busy running his mouth.
I'm sure you could just take a page out of your hero McVeigh's book. Easy peezy!
Idiot Jihad!
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With posts like this I'm surprised that you and WR didn't tie for DOTY honors. My post wasn't about capturing or stopping an attack. It was about why these fuckers are talked about as if they are some great military strategist. 9-11 took a great deal of planning and years to pull off. This shit in Paris was just a bunch of fucking idiots (much like you) that can't think for themselves.
The term "Mastermind" doesn't necessarily mean brilliant but it seems like many so called experts want to talk about how much planning went into something like this. Maybe they are just trying to come across more important and smarter than they actually are.
Keep drinking the koolaid you fucking moron. To bad you didn't join your friend in Jonestown.
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11-19-2015, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Budman
I have heard so much about the "mastermind" of the Paris attacks and how much planning had to go into this cowardly attack. CNN & Fox and it seems like every news outlet speaks of this scum bag like he was this brilliant military mind. IMO nothing could be further from the truth. It would not be difficult to kill innocent bystanders in mass when you have a handful of like minded people who want to die killing as many people as possible. I don't recall McVey being described as a mastermind having great military strategies rolling around in his fucked up head.
Can someone please explain to me what was so complicated about this attack? What took so much planning and genius to kill 129 people?
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I think the foreign press is trying to make a comparison between this shit and Bin Laden. He's dead now, relax a little bit. Don't worry, we got this. I would say that this guy is like an army captain. He is on the scene directing things, or was. I am sure that there are Colonels and Generals above him with more Captains in the wings.
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11-19-2015, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Budman
With posts like this I'm surprised that you and WR didn't tie for DOTY honors. My post wasn't about capturing or stopping an attack. It was about why these fuckers are talked about as if they are some great military strategist. 9-11 took a great deal of planning and years to pull off. This shit in Paris was just a bunch of fucking idiots (much like you) that can't think for themselves.
The term "Mastermind" doesn't necessarily mean brilliant but it seems like many so called experts want to talk about how much planning went into something like this. Maybe they are just trying to come across more important and smarter than they actually are.
Keep drinking the koolaid you fucking moron. To bad you didn't join your friend in Jonestown.
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To bad... (you're as ignorant as you are psyhotic.)
Class act for sure.
Please show where the "koolaid" was drunk. You're just raging on in your predictably incoherent, blathering way. Angry at the world. Ready to start a fight. Your post indicated that you know better than the French military and that it was easy to orchestrate the attack that left the world shaking (not you of course, Davy!) and 129 dead.
Yet I'm the one drinking the "koolaid?"
Nonsense. As always.
My guess is that you're another pudgy gelatinous mass of goo who only gets off the couch to grab himself another 40 of OE.
Talk is cheap. And so are you.
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11-19-2015, 08:06 AM
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Someone who rents cars, and apartments in his own name isn't a mastermind, however he did plan it, smuggled guns, and explosives into the country. Found some dipshits who would shoot innocents, and blow themselves up, and carried out the operation.
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11-19-2015, 08:09 AM
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To bad...
Class act for sure.
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Did that offend you? Fucking pussy.
I'm kind of shocked you could post something other than "SPAM". Maybe that remedial English class you are taking in the nut house is finally showing some results.
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11-19-2015, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Budman
I have heard so much about the "mastermind" of the Paris attacks and how much planning had to go into this cowardly attack. CNN & Fox and it seems like every news outlet speaks of this scum bag like he was this brilliant military mind. IMO nothing could be further from the truth. It would not be difficult to kill innocent bystanders in mass when you have a handful of like minded people who want to die killing as many people as possible. I don't recall McVey being described as a mastermind having great military strategies rolling around in his fucked up head.
Can someone please explain to me what was so complicated about this attack? What took so much planning and genius to kill 129 people?
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11-19-2015, 08:48 AM
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the term mastermind just means the planner or instigator of something
it isn't meant to convey the idea of a superior intellect
its a term that, quite frequently, readily has its meaning nuanced with a certain level of evilness or nefariousness
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11-19-2015, 09:31 AM
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the term mastermind just means the planner or instigator of something .....
..... it isn't meant to convey the idea of a superior intellect....
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It was probably the "master" part that got them off the beaten path ...
... some on here get thrown by that word as well ....
....although they seem to dwell on "masterBATING" instead.
It makes the "feel" superior when they don't need another guy to help them.
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