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01-21-2013, 09:54 AM
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REP. MICHELLE BACHMANN WAS RIGHT.......
The left tries to demonize her; but Bachmann was correct when she opined that the "Obama administration’s “policy of apology and appeasement” has helped spark the backlash against Americans in the Middle East."
The Washington Post reports today that al Qaeda’s successful attack on the Algerian natural gas plant has greatly boosted al Qaeda’s prestige in Africa. Along the way, the Post notes rather casually:
The assailants were well-trained and armed with what appear to have been weapons from the late Libyan leader Moammar Gaddafi’s arsenal (supplied by Obama gun runner Amb. Stevens - killed in Benghazi).
The overthrow of Moammar Gaddafi has turned out to be a terrible blunder. It has empowered radical Muslims, led directly to the Benghazi debacle, and scattered Gaddafi’s armory among terrorist elements, including al Qaeda. There has been, of course, no accountability for the Libya decision, either with respect to the Obama administration or others outside the administration who supported Obama’s policy.
All of which reminded me of Andy McCarthy’s column in National Review. McCarthy criticizes John McCain for his support of Obama’s failed Libya policy, and contrasts McCain with another Republican who gets less respect as a foreign policy expert:
[T]he senator and his allies in the Obama-Clinton State Department had a brilliant notion: The reason the “rebels” of eastern Libya hated America so much had nothing to do with their totalitarian, incorrigibly anti-Western ideology. No, no: The problem was that we sided with Qaddafi, giving the dictator — at the insistence of, well, McCain and the State Department — foreign aid, military assistance, and international legitimacy. If we just threw Qaddafi under the bus, the rebels would surely become our grand democratic allies.
This, of course, was a much more sophisticated theory than you’d get from lunatics like Michele Bachmann. Sit down for this, because I know it’s hard to believe anyone could spout such nutter stuff, but Bachmann actually opposed U.S. intervention in Libya. She claimed — stop cackling! — that many of McCain’s heroes might actually be jihadists ideologically hostile to the U.S. and linked to groups such as al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), the terror enterprise’s North African franchise. She even thought — yeah, I know, crazy — that if Qaddafi were deposed, the heroes would get their hands on his arsenal, ship a lot of it to AQIM havens in places such as Mali and Algeria, and maybe even turn rebel strongholds such as Benghazi into death traps for Americans.
Good thing we listened to McCain, no?
McCarthy moves on to Egypt:
Now, however, McCain says he will push for American taxpayers to fork up another $480 million for Morsi. Or, to be accurate, borrow another $480 million. You see, the United States is already so deep in the red that a $16.3 trillion debt ceiling is not high enough. In fact, we’re such a basket case that our debt-service and “entitlement” payments alone put us in a quarter-trillion-dollar deficit hole even before we borrow and print another trillion-plus for such ancillary expenses as the Defense Department, the Obama family’s vacations, and the $80-odd million that funds “democratization” programs at McCain’s International Republican Institute. But hey, no problem — what’s another $480 million on top of the $2 billion–plus the Obama administration has already extended to Morsi’s regime . . . to say nothing of the sizable U.S. taxpayer chunk of the $4.8 billion IMF loan the Brotherhood government is also about to get its mitts on?
Naturally, “extremist” conservatives like Michele Bachmann are wet blankets when it comes to this gravy train, too. Get this: She thinks that when you get to the point where you have to borrow in order to pay the interest on the loans you already can’t pay off, somebody needs to cut off your credit line — not inflate it by another two or three trill. Even more daft: She thinks that if you subsidize an organization, like the Brotherhood, that promotes sharia and Hamas, you’re apt to get more sharia and more terrorism.
Andy notes something of which I was unaware–an effort to kick Michele Bachmann off the Intelligence Committee because she had the temerity to suggest that it was a bad idea for the Secretary of State to employ a staffer with ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.
McCain, between praising his Islamist “heroes” and championing ever more funding for Islamist Egypt, made certain to lambaste Bachmann on the floor of the Senate over her concerns about Brotherhood infiltration of our government – leading other influential Republicans to follow suit. And now, aping that display, People for the American Way — “PAW,” the outfit created by a hard-left Hollywood icon to smear Robert Bork and derail his Supreme Court nomination — is campaigning to have Bachmann booted from the House Intelligence Committee.
There is a war on over the course of American foreign policy and the security of the United States. The Left has aligned with the Brotherhood — some naïvely relying on the fiction that the Brothers are not the enemy vanguard, others seeing the Brothers as comrades in the quest for a utopian, post-American future. In opposition, the GOP can either continue looking to McCain for leadership or rally behind Bachmann the way the Left always circles the wagons around its stalwarts.
McCain isn’t sanguine about which way the GOP will jump.
All of this reminded me of the dark days of 2008, when the original TARP bill was cobbled together virtually overnight in response to panicked assertions by President Bush’s advisers that a financial collapse was in the offing. I didn’t blame Bush at the time for going along with the advice he was getting, but with hindsight, TARP was a huge mistake. Once the bailouts started, there was no turning back, and the result, a mere four years later, is that the relationship between the the federal government and the private sector has dramatically changed, perhaps forever. Whatever the result of letting one or two major banks fail might have been, it would have been far better than the state capitalism that we have been bequeathed by the Obama administration.
So once again, it is worth asking, who had the foresight back in 2008 to see where all of this was going and to stand vigorously against it? Well, Michele Bachmann, for one. The Political Guide recalls:
Congresswoman Bachmann has opposed the TARP program from its inception, and voted against the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008, which created the TARP program. With the initial collapse of Bear-Stearns and the panic which ensued afterwards, Congresswoman Bachmann called for calm, and mocked the repeated assertions of “too big to fail.”
As it became obvious that a government program would be created to address the financial crisis, Congresswoman Bachmann stated that Congress was being told that the consequences of inaction or even of deliberative action would be severe; but that the consequences of hasty action were just as dire. She noted that Secretary Paulson is asking taxpayers to pony-up $700 billion to buy Wall Street’s debt without a vote by the American people. She stated that shareholders in companies that receive government funds should not make a profit off those funds, and referred to the taxpayers as the “forgotten man.”
As the TARP program came into focus, Congresswoman Bachmann noted that the US people had been told numerous times that financial commitments to Bear-Stearns, AIG, and Fannie-Mae and Freddie-Mac would solve the problems and each time more bailouts were requested. She stated that the bailouts should stop and that Fannie and Freddie should be placed into receivership.
Just before the initial vote on the EESA, Congresswoman Bachmann noted that if a lack of credit was the problem in the economy, suspending mark to market rules and other items would have a larger and better effect than the infusion of cash. When the vote initially failed in the House, Congresswoman Bachmann stated that the plan was rushed, unworkable, and short-sighted.
When President Bush and President-Elect Obama asked for the second half TARP, Congresswoman Bachmann again stated that the measure was rushed and done without proper consideration. She stated that Congress was committing the next generation to servitude in passing the legislation.
When President Obama had the stock purchased with TARP changed from preferred to common stock, Congresswoman Bachmann noted the illegality of the move and cited it as further evidence that the program was out of control.
Unfortunately, not enough people–not even enough conservatives–listened to those warnings at the time.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive...e-bachmann.php
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01-21-2013, 10:05 AM
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Power line blog again.
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FOUR MORE YEARS!
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01-21-2013, 10:05 AM
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The only thing the Jihadists respect is strength. Gordon Liddy said the first day he was in prison, he picked a fight with the biggest baddest son of a bitch he could find. No one ever messed with him after that. Showing tolerance, compassion and forgiveness to the Jihadists is suicidal. To a Jihadist, compassion is weakness; cruelty is strength. The Jihadists think Obama is a punk.
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01-21-2013, 10:11 AM
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This is the extent of your political analysis and IQ ?
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Power line blog again.
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FOUR MORE YEARS!
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No wonder you were voted:
DIPSHIT OF THE YEAR 2013
ASSUP RIDER!!!
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01-21-2013, 11:33 AM
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Yeah, al Queda really won that one dumbass. All the kidnappers got killed by Algerian defense forces and they got no ransom to further finance their operations and their leader is now the world's most wanted terrorist! Great move by AQIM not al Queda. Oh, and they didn't get to blow up the facility - big win for them, huh?
Wrong again ignoramus. You are as misinformed and ignorant as Bachmann...jeesh.
My prediction is that efforts to defeat Islamists in mail will be redoubled and Mokhtar Belmokhtar will be taken out by the end of the year by drone or Special Ops team. It's basically a game of al Queda Whack-a-mole, but who really wants to be the mole, especially when the hammer is a hellfire missile?
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01-21-2013, 11:36 AM
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This is the extent of your political analysis and IQ ?
No wonder you were voted:
DIPSHIT OF THE YEAR 2013
ASSUP RIDER!!!
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Having his head up his ass is as deep as Assup will ever get.
He might wiggle his ears though !
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01-21-2013, 11:41 AM
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It was the Washington Post that commented:
"Qaeda’s North Africa branch into a cause celebre for militant Islamists around the globe, boosting recruitment and fundraising for the jihadists and spurring fears of further terrorist attacks in the region and beyond." But don't believe the WAPO National Security reporters; just go on your blind Obama Hope !
Your a fool.....unfortunately your a fool among many of the "low-information voters" who re-elected Obama. America is headed to troubled waters because of dumb-down voters like you.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...5ee_story.html
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Yeah, al Queda really won that one dumbass. All the kidnappers got killed by Algerian defense forces and they got no ransom to further finance their operations and their leader is now the world's most wanted terrorist! Great move by AQIM not al Queda. Oh, and they didn't get to blow up the facility - big win for them, huh?
Wrong again ignoramus. You are as misinformed and ignorant as Bachmann...jeesh.
My prediction is that efforts to defeat Islamists in mail will be redoubled and Mokhtar Belmokhtar will be taken out by the end of the year by drone or Special Ops team. It's basically a game of al Queda Whack-a-mole, but who really wants to be the mole, especially when the hammer is a hellfire missile?
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01-21-2013, 11:47 AM
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OBAMA'S "WHACK A MOLE" STRATEGY.....
Obama's "whack a mole" policy isn't working; Al Qaeda is more powerful now than before, embolden in Africa, the Middle East, and Asia....................
Obama's foreign policy has failed. Islamic extremism is on the rise, not waning. Soon, the fundamentalists will have nukes. And it will happen under Obama's watch and with his permission.
Once Iran gets nukes, their terror proxies will be empowered as well.
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01-21-2013, 01:02 PM
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attack of the good, support for the liars
she was/is right about the opportunity to return to $2 gas also
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01-21-2013, 01:20 PM
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Obama's "whack a mole" policy isn't working; Al Qaeda is more powerful now than before, embolden in Africa, the Middle East, and Asia....................
Obama's foreign policy has failed. Islamic extremism is on the rise, not waning. Soon, the fundamentalists will have nukes. And it will happen under Obama's watch and with his permission.
Once Iran gets nukes, their terror proxies will be empowered as well.
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I predict If Iran doesn't get a nuclear bomb pretty soon, Obama will find a way to give them one. Obama wants to see Israel destroyed as much as they do.
Don't forget when China was having trouble getting their ICBMs into orbit, Clinton approved the sale of missile guidance technology that solved their problem. The American left is always in bed with our enemies.
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01-21-2013, 01:32 PM
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I predict If Iran doesn't get a nuclear bomb pretty soon, Obama will find a way to give them one. Obama wants to see Israel destroyed as much as they do.
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Another unfounded and outrageous LIE. Prove it. Show me one quote from POTUS where he says he wants to see Israel destroyed, you lying sack of shit! Show me anywhere Obama or his administration has discussed providing nuclear weapons to Iran. MORE LIES FROM THE FABRICATOR.
And you have the audacity to complain that I'm not "deep" enough for you? Shit, I don't think the Mariana Trench is deep enough to store you short bus assholes.
Getting deep with you guys isn't worth the effort. You don't deal in fact. You don't deal in truth. You don't deal in reason. You don't debate. You simply cut and paste the opinion of the far right. Then attack everybody else who points out that you're a fucking idiot.
It's far more satisfying to point out how fucking crazy, stupid and ignorant you are. That's why I live here. My mission is to identify overinformed, conspiracy-spreading, underwear soiling shitheads like you and offer them a hearty
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01-21-2013, 01:50 PM
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Another unfounded and outrageous LIE. Prove it. Show me one quote from POTUS where he says he wants to see Israel destroyed, you lying sack of shit! Show me anywhere Obama or his administration has discussed providing nuclear weapons to Iran. MORE LIES FROM THE FABRICATOR.
And you have the audacity to complain that I'm not "deep" enough for you? Shit, I don't think the Mariana Trench is deep enough to store you short bus assholes.
Getting deep with you guys isn't worth the effort. You don't deal in fact. You don't deal in truth. You don't deal in reason. You don't debate. You simply cut and paste the opinion of the far right. Then attack everybody else who points out that you're a fucking idiot.
It's far more satisfying to point out how fucking crazy, stupid and ignorant you are. That's why I live here. My mission is to identify overinformed, conspiracy-spreading, underwear soiling shitheads like you and offer them a hearty
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Odumbo says he wants Israel to return to the 1967 borders. Everyone knows that would put Israel in an indefensible position. Odumbo just nominated Hegel for the next Secretary of Defense. Hegel is a notorious enemy of Israel. Odumbo insists on continuing aid to the Muslim Brotherhood President of Egypt who says that Jews are descended from monkeys and pigs.
Of course Odumbo won't come right out and say he hates Israel; that would be politically unwise. You don't have to be a genius to connect the dots. You have to judge Demonrats by their behavior.
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01-21-2013, 02:09 PM
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Joe, I think you are right. Obama is anti-American enough to think giving Iran the technology will re-shift the geo-political landscape against American colonialism. In Obama's world view, a strong Israel is a colonial outpost of American foreign policy.
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01-21-2013, 02:33 PM
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Joe, I think you are right. Obama is anti-American enough to think giving Iran the technology will re-shift the geo-political landscape against American colonialism. In Obama's world view, a strong Israel is a colonial outpost of American foreign policy.
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Obama thinks we're the bad guys. He's trying to bring America down. If you want to predict what Obama is likely to do just ask yourself what would Saul Alinsky do? What would Bill Ayers do? What would Frank Marshall Davis do? Obama's world view is the sum total of all the radicals that have molded him. He's dangerous.
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01-21-2013, 03:32 PM
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If Bachmann is yalls hero you are slipping down the ladder faster than the rest of the R wingers.
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