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01-19-2013, 08:26 AM
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Over the next four years, more and more people will come to the realization that O'Blunder is the liar, and always has been.
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01-19-2013, 08:27 AM
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Whirly, if you read both articles, you will see that both of them are saying essentially the same thing - that Fiat plans to begin production of Jeep vehicles in China, which it intends to then sell TO the people of China. There are no plans to eliminate or reduce production here in America. In other words, no American jobs are being lost. This move is purely to increase market share in China.
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01-19-2013, 08:35 AM
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You are doing what liberals do; lie about what Romney said.
Romney said (watch for yourself):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ8P0...ature=youtu.be
And the Reuter's story is correct, proving Romney was telling the truth when he said...
"President Obama took Chrysler and GM into bankruptcy and even sold Chrysler to the Italians, who are going to build jeeps in China."
Obama, PolitiFact and liberals lied. Romney told the truth.
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01-19-2013, 10:40 AM
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Whirrly you have sucked too many exhaust pipes on cars while the vehicle was running.
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01-19-2013, 11:05 AM
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And your "loud pipes" may have saved your life, but they have killed your ability to listen and learn.........
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01-19-2013, 11:52 AM
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Whirly, in Romney's ad, the narrator is heard saying "Obama took GM and Chrystler into bankruptcy, and sold Chrystler to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China. Mitt Romney is going to fight for every American job"
The implication of the ad is clear - Mitt Romney is going to "fight for every American job" as opposed to Obama who sold Chrystler to Italians and who are now going to build Jeeps in China. The viewer is left to ASSume that Jeeps built in China means Jeeps will no longer be built here, costing American jobs.
I may be conservative but I abhor subterfuge, misdirection, and contextually false claims intended only to score political points. The ad may not have outright lied, but they laid a very clear trail of breadcrumbs intended to lead the viewer down a misdirected and contrived path that is far from the actual truth.
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01-19-2013, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by SinsOfTheFlesh
Whirly, in Romney's ad, the narrator is heard saying "Obama took GM and Chrystler into bankruptcy, and sold Chrystler to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China. Mitt Romney is going to fight for every American job"
The implication of the ad is clear - Mitt Romney is going to "fight for every American job" as opposed to Obama who sold Chrystler to Italians and who are now going to build Jeeps in China. The viewer is left to ASSume that Jeeps built in China means Jeeps will no longer be built here, costing American jobs.
I may be conservative but I abhor subterfuge, misdirection, and contextually false claims intended only to score political points. The ad may not have outright lied, but they laid a very clear trail of breadcrumbs intended to lead the viewer down a misdirected and contrived path that is far from the actual truth.
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I agree with what you stated. Romney should have had more integrity. Obama does the same thing but we do not expect honorable action from him. That sucks, but I expect the democrats to be deceptive and I am disappointed when republicans use the same tactics.
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01-19-2013, 12:40 PM
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100% of Jeeps sold here and around the WORLD, were made here.
NOW we will only have jobs for jeeps sold here.
=Less American jobs.
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01-19-2013, 01:37 PM
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And those jeeps made in china won't be worth a rats ass. Fucking stuff they make over there doesn't last, and is sub standard. If it is made in china I won't fucking buy it.
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01-19-2013, 02:18 PM
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And your "loud pipes" may have saved your life, but they have killed your ability to listen and learn.........
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and his statement was wrong as much as you try to spin it.
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01-19-2013, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by EXTXOILMAN
Over the next four years, more and more people will come to the realization that O'Blunder is the liar, and always has been.
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WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT EXLAXMAN?
Whine, cry, complain.
You fuckers ain't shit!
And BTW, you calling ANYBODY a liar is like calling your slunt master a prude.
NO FUCKING CREDIBILITY!
Get over it.
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01-19-2013, 04:17 PM
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You are doing what liberals do; lie about what Romney said.
Romney said (watch for yourself):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ8P0...ature=youtu.be
And the Reuter's story is correct, proving Romney was telling the truth when he said...
"President Obama took Chrysler and GM into bankruptcy and even sold Chrysler to the Italians, who are going to build jeeps in China."
Obama, PolitiFact and liberals lied. Romney told the truth.
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You can't tell the truth about a prediction. You can't lie about a prediction. You're either right or wrong.
Except for you, DOTY, you're pretty much an ignorant asshole 100% of the time!
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01-20-2013, 09:26 AM
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SoF; you cannot be a conservative ????????????
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Originally Posted by SinsOfTheFlesh
Whirly, in Romney's ad, the narrator is heard saying "Obama took GM and Chrystler into bankruptcy, and sold Chrystler to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China. Mitt Romney is going to fight for every American job"
Right....nothing more..........
The implication of the ad is clear - Mitt Romney is going to "fight for every American job" as opposed to Obama who sold Chrystler to Italians and who are now going to build Jeeps in China. The viewer is left to ASSume that Jeeps built in China means Jeeps will no longer be built here, costing American jobs.
The fact is that the Romney ad said NOTHING about costing American jobs; you leap to some unfounded conclusions and call it a fact ?
The PolitiFact site is suppose to be a "fact check" site; they ignored the facts as you do....Politifact was wrong, Romney was right !
I may be conservative but I abhor subterfuge, misdirection, and contextually false claims intended only to score political points. The ad may not have outright lied, but they laid a very clear trail of breadcrumbs intended to lead the viewer down a misdirected and contrived path that is far from the actual truth.
I doubt you are a conservative; and what you should abhor more is the subterfuge of the media (and Obama) that lied about Romney - lied about his record, his ads, his statements..........Politifact named this the "Lie of the Year"....it turns out Romney was right and Politifact's hyperbole was the lie !
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01-20-2013, 11:42 AM
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Here you go, the man himself said Jeep was moving ALL jeep production to China......................... .......... big fat huge lie, Romney didn't put it in the ads cause even he knew saying " ALL production" was a lie............ here he is saying it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnY2qbE4d2w
Here's another FACT for you to ponder: since 1985 until 2009 the Jeep Cherokee, Chrysler 300, and Chrysler Sebring all were built in a plant in Beijing, China. So I guess it was ok for "US jobs" to be lost to China under Regan, Bush Sr., Clinton and Bush Jr. with no one bitching about it. https://www.toledoblade.com/Automoti...-U-S-made.html
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