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11-15-2012, 01:50 PM
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Governor Rick Scott drops opposition to Obamacare
More and more they are starting to crack!
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TALLAHASSEE (AP) - Florida Gov. Rick Scott, one of the most vocal critics of the federal health care overhaul, is dropping his staunch opposition to the law.
Scott said in an interview Tuesday with The Associated Press that he now wants to negotiate with the federal government. He said it's time for Republicans to offer solutions to help families after they lost their bid to defeat President Barack Obama.
"The election is over and President Obama won," Scott said. "I'm responsible for the families of Florida ... If I can get to yes, I want to get to yes."
Scott had previously stated that he would not go along with any parts of the health care overhaul that the state controls.
But his newfound willingness to have a "conversation" about putting it in place in Florida comes at a critical time.
States have until Friday to notify federal authorities whether they plan to set up health insurance exchanges, a marketplace where individuals and smalls businesses can shop for the most affordable coverage and where many will get help from the government to pay their premiums.
Florida so far has taken no steps to set up its own exchange.
Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius announced an extension last week. She still wants to hear if states will be setting up health insurance markets under the law. But governors can now take another month, until mid-December, to submit detailed blueprints.
Most states have been on the fence awaiting the election outcome. They now have three options: running their own exchanges, operating an exchange in partnership with the federal health officials, or letting the feds handle everything.
Scott said he still has concerns about the exchanges, including the cost of running one and whether it would increase the cost of health care for families. But he said he's sure federal officials want to find ways to provide affordable health care to people.
"I don't think anyone involved in trying to improve health care should say `no, no, no," said Scott "Let's have a conversation."
Scott's willingness to discuss the issue with federal officials in Washington aligns him closer to some other Republican leaders in Florida.
Incoming Florida House Speaker Will Weatherford, for example, said the state may be willing to set up an exchange if it gets some better answers from Washington about how they will work.
Weatherford said that in the short term the state may have to default to the federal government but he is leaving open the possibility that could change.
"To me Florida should control its own future," Weatherford said.
Scott made his fortune as a health care executive and once ran the nation's largest hospital chain. He made his first foray into politics by forming a group called Conservatives for Patients' Rights that ran TV ads criticizing health care reform before it was adopted by Congress.
Florida led the legal battle to stop the health care overhaul and shortly after the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the law Scott said that the state would not implement the exchanges or expand its Medicaid program to enroll more people in the program.
Florida had the nation's third-highest rate of residents without health insurance during the past three years, according to Census data released last year.
But the state also has some of the most stringent eligibility requirements in the country for Medicaid.
A family of three with income of $11,000 a year makes too much and single residents are not covered. The Obama administration wants those requirements loosened so that an estimated 2 million uninsured Floridians could be covered by Medicaid. But experts don't believe all those eligible will participate. Feds will pick up 100 percent of the tab for the first three years and at least 90 percent after, along with extra funding for technology costs.
Florida's Medicaid program currently costs more than $21 billion a year, with the federal government picking up roughly half the tab. It covers nearly 3 million people -- about half are children -- and consumes about 30 percent of the state budget.
Advocates who favor expanding the Medicaid rolls say it will save money in the long run by deterring people from emergency rooms -- the most expensive, least effective place to treat people.
The issue has been predictably polarizing with conservative groups urging states to dig in their heels and fight federal implementation.
"Governors should join the growing chorus in sending a strong message to Washington that their states will not implement these flawed health insurance exchanges" said Nicole Kaeding of Americans for Prosperity. "Exchanges raise prices on consumers and increase taxes on hardworking families."
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11-15-2012, 05:56 PM
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I guess Florida isn't going to secede after all. Not unless they can take their health care plan with the a,
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11-15-2012, 09:51 PM
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I didn't read the text but let me guess:
Now that its time to collect taxes and get benefits, the gov has no choice but to drop opposition to the law.
Amiright?
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11-15-2012, 11:26 PM
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Those damn Republicrats.
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11-15-2012, 11:34 PM
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I can't remember the politician who said it, but the comment was, "If you're going to be raped, might as well lie back and enjoy it."
That's what we have here.
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11-16-2012, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by gnadfly
I didn't read the text but let me guess:
Now that its time to collect taxes and get benefits, the gov has no choice but to drop opposition to the law.
Amiright?
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Stop being lazy and read it.
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11-16-2012, 09:32 AM
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That quote was made famous by Guberntorial Candidate Clayton Williams in the Texas election against Ann Richards...likening rape to bad weather, having stated: "If it's inevitable, just relax and enjoy it". He also wouldn't shake Ann Richards hand in a debate.
The election was known as the Lady Against Claytie race.
It cost Claytie the election !
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Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
I can't remember the politician who said it, but the comment was, "If you're going to be raped, might as well lie back and enjoy it."
That's what we have here.
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11-16-2012, 09:32 AM
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Stop being lazy and read it.
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Are you being racist again, KarlMarxRoxny?
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11-16-2012, 09:34 AM
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Are you being racist again, KarlMarxRoxny?
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Are you being stupid again old man? Like when you said these statements?
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... But you are so full of hate, you can't see straight. You're a hater, and that's what hater's do. They hate.
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"Hate" is such a cheap argument. It effectively closes off any reasonable dissent. It's the last vestige of a coward with no substantive argument.
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Checkmate
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11-16-2012, 09:38 AM
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It was just a question, KarlMarxRoxny. Weren't you the one complaining that calling Obama lazy was racist? I just wanted to make sure you weren't being a hypocrite. I guess I found out.
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11-16-2012, 09:40 AM
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It was just a question, KarlMarxRoxny. Weren't you the one complaining that calling Obama lazy was racist? I just wanted to make sure you weren't being a hypocrite. I guess I found out.
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Yea you found out that YOU are a hypocrite and i have the proof
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... But you are so full of hate, you can't see straight. You're a hater, and that's what hater's do. They hate.
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"Hate" is such a cheap argument. It effectively closes off any reasonable dissent. It's the last vestige of a coward with no substantive argument.
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11-16-2012, 09:44 AM
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Like I said. This will be fun.
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11-16-2012, 09:46 AM
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COG: it gets more so every day.....yesterday we caught Wellendowed in a ball faced lie regarding his bet with Budman..........today who knows which leftie will bite the dust !
They don't have the facts on their side........and it shows each day......
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11-16-2012, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Whirlaway
That quote was made famous by Guberntorial Candidate Clayton Williams in the Texas election against Ann Richards...likening rape to bad weather, having stated: "If it's inevitable, just relax and enjoy it". He also wouldn't shake Ann Richards hand in a debate.
The election was known as the Lady Against Claytie race.
It cost Claytie the election !
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Yep. Williams was the typical no-class douche republican. That was back when people in Texas had a little good sense left.
I'm sure Williams would win that election today, his shitbird comments and rude behavior would probably be celebrated by our repukes.
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11-16-2012, 09:47 AM
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Like I said. This will be fun.
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sure will, especially when i expose your hypocrisy and you are too much of a coward to even address it.
big fun
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... But you are so full of hate, you can't see straight. You're a hater, and that's what hater's do. They hate.
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