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11-16-2012, 11:00 PM
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Complete legal security.
One of the things that we must do in order to ensure clients/provider own safety is ask client/provider to sign a contract. The contract mostly says that you have 'hired' her for 'companionship' for a given period. Any other activities are beyond the scope of the contract, and will take place only with the consent of both parties, which is usually the case.
Signing this kind of contract is safe for you as well, because you will also be in the clear too. Once the contract is signed, she will feel safe and you will be able to enjoy her company.
This guide is not provided for any illegal use or promote such use in anyway. I take no liability for any damages to any party who use this guide. Everything I write on this forum are my fantasies.
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11-17-2012, 08:46 AM
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Hmmmm.
Let us NOT make a federal issue of "contract." But...
The word "hired" interjects into my risk assessment an "employer/employee" relationship that could give rise to issues with
The IRS (are all federal reports being filed?)
The EEOC (were all relevant hiring considerations followed?)
State and possibly federal statutes on "sexual harassment" and,
among other items, even consensual sexual activities could still be considered violations of prostitutional proportions... e.g., you can beat the rap but not the ride since payments are involved.
And, fwiw, both parties to the contract are revealing, I presume, real word identity data.
Few courts will enforce a contract that encompasses potential criminal acts whether stated or unstated.
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11-17-2012, 10:00 AM
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Many EEOC laws apply only for employers with four or more employees. But many laws that are not regulated by EEOC will apply to this contract. These laws are regulated by DOJ, U.S OPM, U.S DL, U.S SSA, U.S DHHS, National Labor Relations Board,Civil Rights Act of 1866 enforced by individuals,not federal agency. The most sloppy IRS rules applies when you hire independent contractors, but it still require Form 1099-MISC to be completed. "You are not an independent contractor if you perform services that can be controlled by an employer (what will be done and how it will be done"
The solution:
Hire independent contractor(not employee) with a contract to dispose a flower(service that can NOT be controlled by employer) and complete Form 1099-MISC.
The form 1099-MISC are filed by payer to be submitted directly to the IRS. It does require name and address of recipient.
This guide is not provided for any illegal use or promote such use in anyway. I take no liability for any damages to any party who use this guide. Everything I write on this forum are my fantasies.
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11-17-2012, 03:25 PM
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Awesome,
Why would you want to create a paper trail for LE, spouses, etc.
The last thing I want to have happen is me sitting in a courtroom with a judge, or perhaps worse, 12 jurors, trying to explain how this contract allows me to avoid a prostitution rap. The District Attorney would love to have that piece of paper to show the jury.
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11-17-2012, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by tigercat
Awesome,
Why would you want to create a paper trail for LE, spouses, etc.
The last thing I want to have happen is me sitting in a courtroom with a judge, or perhaps worse, 12 jurors, trying to explain how this contract allows me to avoid a prostitution rap. The District Attorney would love to have that piece of paper to show the jury.
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Bravo! Don't forget the eccie postings too. The DA would want those for sure.
Where do people come up with this crap? The subject of disclaimers has been rubbed into the ground 100 times in this forum. I invite the OP to cite even an inkling of legal authority that supports his proposition that a contract is an effective defense.
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11-26-2012, 10:01 AM
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Methinks someone might be practicing law without a license.
I'd LOVE to be in the courtroom when the defense tries to introduce the "contract" to rebut the vice-cop's testimony concerning an exchange of money for sexual services. (That assumes that the prosecution won't have introduced it first.)
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11-26-2012, 04:33 PM
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Methinks someone might be practicing law without a license.
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Or (possibly worse) giving really bad advice with a license . . .
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11-26-2012, 05:43 PM
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Not too sure any providers or hobbyists would like to leave a paper trail. I'd rather take my chances through thorough research and the like as opposed to signing anything. Too many opportunities for worse things than getting ripped off to occur, IMHO.
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11-27-2012, 03:07 PM
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I miss schyster. He could nip this BS in the bud better than anyone.
You need to understand that we live in a fascist state and LE can do whatever they want if you give them a reason to want to. Stay under the radar. Contracts are above the radar.
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11-27-2012, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by trojantide
I miss schyster. He could nip this BS in the bud better than anyone.
You need to understand that we live in a fascist state and LE can do whatever they want if you give them a reason to want to. Stay under the radar. Contracts are above the radar.
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Me too!
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11-27-2012, 10:08 PM
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I agree with Tigercat. You would be screwed, I would get a jury full of wives that were cheated on!
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11-30-2012, 09:33 AM
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That is the dumbest idea I have ever heard.
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11-30-2012, 11:49 AM
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That is the dumbest idea I have ever heard.
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I typically try to be more tactful, and truly, I probably have heard dumber ideas.
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11-30-2012, 03:05 PM
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If I remember some of my college classes, a contract for an illegal activity is, on its face, illegal and unenforceable.
Looks to me like you would only be increasing the paper trail to tie you into something you may not want others to know about.
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12-02-2012, 08:14 PM
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The only way to gain complete legal immunity in a criminal act is to not commit that act.
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