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Old 08-25-2013, 10:06 PM   #1
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For the ladies who have a multi-hour minimum, have you had a better experience with a 2 or 4 hour minimum (or insert other number) in terms of attracting higher quality of people, enjoying the overall experience, and popularity business-wise?

I've been doing pretty well currently at a 2 hour min, but I'm contemplating moving it to a longer perhaps 3-4 hour, though 3 is such an odd number and I'm a stickler for even numbers

The only thing I'm wary of is that chemistry varies with different people, so while with some 6-8 hour engagements may be the norm, with others a shorter encounter of say 2 hours is perfect and I don't want to necessarily take away that option. But at the same time, I don't want it to seem that I encourage shorter encounters by simply offering it (1-2 hours would be considered short)

And for the gentlemen, how do you determine compatibility when choosing a companion for a longer date? Obviously I would assume it goes beyond the skill set of looks and boudoir "talent".
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Old 08-25-2013, 10:15 PM   #2
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And for the gentlemen, how do you determine compatibility when choosing a companion for a longer date? Obviously I would assume it goes beyond the skill set of looks and boudoir "talent".
Can't speak for the others. But for me, when seeing a provider for the first time, I try and set a minimum of 90 minutes. Most often its between 2 and 3 hours depending on their rates. That's a personal preference as I like to take my time, talk a bit, sip some wine, nibble some strawberries, engage in some stimulating foreplay with the lady before getting to the serious business.

For those that I hit it off with, I will follow up with additional multiple hour appointments. For those that I don't, I either don't book again or if I want to give them another chance to see if it was just one off session, I'll book a shorter 1 hour appointment.

Given all of that however, if the lady posts that she won't see a gent for less than a 3 or 4 hour date initially, I'll probably by-pass them as I WANT the option to choose, not have the choice forced on me.
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Old 08-25-2013, 11:27 PM   #3
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I book the smallest amount of time possible if I am seeing someone new. The main reason for doing this is because a provider is almost always wiling to extend the session if I am enjoying myself, so there is really no need to gamble on a new girl and on booking a multi hour appointment. By booking a short appointment I can also opt to see her again and with a longer session as well ( which is usually my preference ) . This actually benefits her more financially because I may be paying for 2 or 3 one hour sessions instead of a single 3 hour session which is usually less money.

It also makes things less awkward. I have had the bait n switch pulled on me and it makes it much easier to cut your losses if you are only going to see someone for a short time anyways.
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Old 08-25-2013, 11:46 PM   #4
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I've been doing pretty well currently at a 2 hour min, but I'm contemplating moving it to a longer perhaps 3-4 hour, though 3 is such an odd number and I'm a stickler for even numbers
Contrary to you, I think 3 hours is a perfect number. It gives time enough for a romantic encounter and I think it's better than 4 hours which could often include lunch or dinner.
And where I'm perfectly okay with paying for lunch or dinner, I'm not okay with paying for the time involved in it.

However, if I look through your website, an exception is always possible.

Enjoy life.
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Old 08-26-2013, 01:53 AM   #5
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In Canada, off the clock/clock-free is very popular right now. For example a certain amount for "a few hours", "a couple hours", and entire evening/overnight,etc with no set number. With a strong distaste toward the unnatural ritual of clock watching during a date myself, I tried offering such a structure in the U.S but it apparently bewildered some. People like to stick to certain allotted time frames here *sigh* American way of life
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Old 08-26-2013, 02:55 AM   #6
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In Canada, off the clock/clock-free is very popular right now. For example a certain amount for "a few hours", "a couple hours", and entire evening/overnight,etc with no set number. With a strong distaste toward the unnatural ritual of clock watching during a date myself, I tried offering such a structure in the U.S but it apparently bewildered some. People like to stick to certain allotted time frames here *sigh* American way of life
Dearest Zabrina,

I always do my research on a lady and inevitably always enjoy longer dates 5+ hours, even on a first time. The reason being is that longer dates put both of us at ease right from the very beginning and create a more meaningful encounter. I have indulged in several "clock-free" dates, and yes in Canada, and am a huge fan!

Compatibility for longer dates means not only looking for a lady with great looks, but also one that has a track record of maturity and willingness to interact in mind as well as body...I want to have a fun date both in and out of the bedroom!
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Old 08-26-2013, 09:29 PM   #7
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Congratulations, Z!

I'm moving to a 2 hour minimum just for that reason. As a lady who does Clock-free dates in the US, it's all about comfort, and I've found that sometimes it just takes a little bit of time for guys to warm up to that.

What I've noticed is that when a gent is comfortable with shorter encounters, even 2 hours, booking longer dates depends on a change in his circumstances. He may not be able to do a clock free engagement due to being well known in his hometown, or being escorted by associates during a trip. But as soon as he's able to travel outside the city, or change his schedule around, you may be the first one he calls. I've learned not to pigeon hole my experiences. Most of my longer excursions are with gents that met me for an hour the first time.

At any level, chemistry should be primary in accepting an appointment. There should be more to your selection process that assures that you're not meeting people with whom you have no chemistry.

After that, everything else will fall in line.

All the best, love!
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Old 08-26-2013, 09:48 PM   #8
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I have had the bait n switch pulled on me and it makes it much easier to cut your losses if you are only going to see someone for a short time anyways.
If you arrive and find you've gotten a "bait and switch".. is walking out on a 1 hour appointment any different in result than walking out on a 3 hour appointment? I mean, we are BOTH going to walk out of there in the first few minutes as soon as we've discovered the switch and neither of us is going to leave the full donation, aren't we?

I'm not seeing the benefit of booking a 1 hour vs 3 hour appointment where you get the bait and switch. Maybe I missed something?
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Old 08-26-2013, 11:32 PM   #9
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If you arrive and find you've gotten a "bait and switch".. is walking out on a 1 hour appointment any different in result than walking out on a 3 hour appointment? I mean, we are BOTH going to walk out of there in the first few minutes as soon as we've discovered the switch and neither of us is going to leave the full donation, aren't we?

I'm not seeing the benefit of booking a 1 hour vs 3 hour appointment where you get the bait and switch. Maybe I missed something?
The bait n switch was an extreme case and probably a poor example. In more practical instances maybe she iust doesn't do it for you. Maybe she is too loose, maybe she uses too much teeth on her bj, maybe her breath smells bad.. Who knows. The point is that it isn't going well and you didn't realize it was going to be a bad experience until you are doing the deed. If you have already told her that you are going to have a 3 hour session and you paid for it, now you are putting yourself in a real awkward spot if you just aren't happy with her for whatever reason and just want to leave . It's much easier to pay more to extend the session or see her again, then it is to go the opposite route and decide to cut the session short.
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Old 08-27-2013, 06:20 AM   #10
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Congratulations, Z!.....
At any level, chemistry should be primary in accepting an appointment. There should be more to your selection process that assures that you're not meeting people with whom you have no chemistry.

After that, everything else will fall in line.


All the best, love!
Once again TJ, you are right on top of things (my favorite view, by the way)!!
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Old 08-27-2013, 07:59 AM   #11
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My available time and my hobby budget don't generally allow for multi-hour appointments, but I've been fortunate in that most of the ladies whom I like to see repeatedly don't care to watch the clock all that closely. I did once have a six hour date with a lady who offered to make me dinner. Other than paying for the evening's groceries, she only expected her usual one-hour donation. But this turned out to be a good investment on her part; three years later she remains my ATF and I've seen her more times that I can count.
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Old 08-27-2013, 09:27 AM   #12
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I see three keys to a successful longer date with me. First, she has to be fun. By that I mean a combination of playful, witty and easy going, with the ability to spot and enjoy the absurd.

Second, she has to be interesting and interested in the world. As time passes, the smallness of some minds looms ever larger, eventually blocking the sun of joyful companionship. A good education often helps, but quality of the intellect is more important.

Third, she has to balance showing interest in me with sufficient independence not to be clingy. My ego demands the former, my sanity demands the latter.
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Old 08-27-2013, 10:01 AM   #13
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I'm all about the dating experience, so I prefer a longer engagement. However, people are not used to my approach. A two hour engagement can turn into 3 or 4 hours, but they don't quite understand how and it takes some explaining.

I'm low volume, so I'm not really concerned with popularity. I'm more concerned with enjoying what I do. Longer engagements tend to attract the kind of men I like; well mannered, well groomed who want a more substantive connection.

I'm currently offering a one hour dining/event engagement as a way to introduce myself to the community, but it's normally a two hour minimum. Longer engagements are an option for those I have an established connection with. It works out pretty well for me, but I'm not looking to fill my calendar. I may see one client a day.
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Once again TJ, you are right on top of things (my favorite view, by the way)!!
You're such a kiss ass, Ed Let me position myself where your mouth can be of better use....

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My available time and my hobby budget don't generally allow for multi-hour appointments, but I've been fortunate in that most of the ladies whom I like to see repeatedly don't care to watch the clock all that closely. I did once have a six hour date with a lady who offered to make me dinner. Other than paying for the evening's groceries, she only expected her usual one-hour donation. But this turned out to be a good investment on her part; three years later she remains my ATF and I've seen her more times that I can count.
That, sir, is called chemistry. And I'm pretty sure that if anything changes with your current situation, she will benefit from that as well.

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I see three keys to a successful longer date with me. First, she has to be fun. By that I mean a combination of playful, witty and easy going, with the ability to spot and enjoy the absurd.

Second, she has to be interesting and interested in the world. As time passes, the smallness of some minds looms ever larger, eventually blocking the sun of joyful companionship. A good education often helps, but quality of the intellect is more important.

Third, she has to balance showing interest in me with sufficient independence not to be clingy. My ego demands the former, my sanity demands the latter.
Wow, that was profound. You sound really nice...

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I'm all about the dating experience, so I prefer a longer engagement. However, people are not used to my approach. A two hour engagement can turn into 3 or 4 hours, but they don't quite understand how and it takes some explaining.

I'm low volume, so I'm not really concerned with popularity. I'm more concerned with enjoying what I do. Longer engagements tend to attract the kind of men I like; well mannered, well groomed who want a more substantive connection.

I'm currently offering a one hour dining/event engagement as a way to introduce myself to the community, but it's normally a two hour minimum. Longer engagements are an option for those I have an established connection with. It works out pretty well for me, but I'm not looking to fill my calendar. I may see one client a day.
I like your style, Viv!
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I like your style, Viv!
Thank you, darlin.
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