Care to explain this racism

[JD Barleycorn]

In 2008 here is how it went down:
Obama McCain
white 43% 55%
black 95% 4%
hispanic 65% 31%
asian 62% 35%
other 66% 31%

men 49% 48%
women 56% 43%

In 2012 it went as follows:
Obama Romney
white 39% 59%
black 93% 6%
hispanic 71% 27%
asian 73% 26%
other 58% 38%

men 45% 52%
women 55% 44%

These numbers are both from Roeper polling
and these results are from Washington-ABC polling

If the election were held today Mitt Romney would win by 3 pts.

Since the left has maintained that ONLY racism accounts for the opposition's pushback against Obama, are you going to tell us that people became more racist since 2008. That is the only explanation if you're telling the truth. So you have to explain, are you (and have you been) telling the truth or has it been a big vast left wing conspiracy? If it is a lie, then why did you do it? Pure politics?

[CuteOldGuy]

The "racist" epithet is very convenient for demagogues. Once it is raised, the discussion turns to race, and the substance of the original topic is lost. The demagogue has successfully deflected the argument from one s/he cannot win, to one which will drag on until the original topic is long forgotten. Thus, the demagogue is relieved from arguing substance.

[i'va biggen]

The republican party excludes minorities?

[Old-T]

JD, when you stop decreeing how "the Left" thinks, maybe we can have some intelligent conversations here. SOME of the LWWackos do indeed say the only push back is race. That is as stupid a comment on their part as the RWWackos who pretend none of it is racially motivated.

It is posts like this OP that keep the race argument front and center just as much as those who use race to absolve stupid and hateful things that they do.

It gets worse since you generally paint most anyone left of you as a Liberal. There are plenty of people left of you who are still right of center on many issues.

Obama carried great amounts of the Black and Latino and Asian vote because, in total, those groups felt more in synch with what he had to say. Or do you think the Hispanics and Asians mistook him for Alberto Fujimori? Race IS part of it on both sides of the electorate. Race is NOT ALL of it on either side. As much as the RW side of this board wants to make arguments aracial, they also pull out the race card when convenient, they just play it in a different way. Such as this thread.

[IIFFOFRDB]

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

The republican party excludes minorities?

Maybe they exclude themselves...

The group the 2011 FBI crime statistics say are responsible for:
55.6% of all Robbery
49.7% of Murders
33.6% of all Aggravated Assaults
32.9% of Forcible Rapes

This group is only 3% of the total US population. REPEAT 3%.
Black males aged 15-34; the main perpetrators are only 3% of the total US population

2012 FBI Statistics
54.9% of all Robbery
49.4% of Murders
34.1% of all Aggravated Assaults
32.5% of Forcible Rapes

[i'va biggen]

Swing and a miss again by whiffy.

[JD Barleycorn]

Originally Posted by Old-T

JD, when you stop decreeing how "the Left" thinks, maybe we can have some intelligent conversations here. SOME of the LWWackos do indeed say the only push back is race. That is as stupid a comment on their part as the RWWackos who pretend none of it is racially motivated.

It is posts like this OP that keep the race argument front and center just as much as those who use race to absolve stupid and hateful things that they do.

It gets worse since you generally paint most anyone left of you as a Liberal. There are plenty of people left of you who are still right of center on many issues.

Obama carried great amounts of the Black and Latino and Asian vote because, in total, those groups felt more in synch with what he had to say. Or do you think the Hispanics and Asians mistook him for Alberto Fujimori? Race IS part of it on both sides of the electorate. Race is NOT ALL of it on either side. As much as the RW side of this board wants to make arguments aracial, they also pull out the race card when convenient, they just play it in a different way. Such as this thread.

I'm not telling anyone how the left thinks. I'm just going by what the left tells me that they think. They say the right wing is racist. Am I wrong to doubt that they really think that? They say that everyone who opposes the White House agenda is a racist because they hate Obama. Is that wrong? I can show you a lot of examplaes but I don't think we need to mine or your time to show the obvious.

As for the second part, how much shit did Alberto Gonzales take? Was it because he was not "in synch" with the latino community?

[JD Barleycorn]

The point that I'm making is that the left has put all their chips on the idea (and maybe they even believe it) that it is all about Obama's race and not his politics or his incompetence. How do you explain the millions who didn't vote for Obama in 2012 that did vote for him in 2008. Or the people who have turned on him since 2012. Have they all become racists? If you believe the left that has to be the case. So all of these new racists are creations of Obama.

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

The point that I'm making is that the left has put all their chips on the idea (and maybe they even believe it) that it is all about Obama's race and not his politics or his incompetence. How do you explain the millions who didn't vote for Obama in 2012 that did vote for him in 2008. Or the people who have turned on him since 2012. Have they all become racists? If you believe the left that has to be the case. So all of these new racists are creations of Obama.

A vote for a black man is racist, but a vote for a white man isn't LOL

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

The point that I'm making is that the left has put all their chips on the idea (and maybe they even believe it) that it is all about Obama's race and not his politics or his incompetence. How do you explain the millions who didn't vote for Obama in 2012 that did vote for him in 2008. Or the people who have turned on him since 2012. Have they all become racists? If you believe the left that has to be the case. So all of these new racists are creations of Obama.

double post

[nevergaveitathought]

I'm just tired of the American cop being racially profiled by blacks and the entire democrat coalition

[IIFFOFRDB]

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

double post

more like "dumb as a post"...

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

more like "dumb as a post"...

Relax ass wipe I wasn't referring to you.

[Jewish Lawyer]

Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

Maybe they exclude themselves...

The group the 2011 FBI crime statistics say are responsible for:
55.6% of all Robbery
49.7% of Murders
33.6% of all Aggravated Assaults
32.9% of Forcible Rapes

This group is only 3% of the total US population. REPEAT 3%.
Black males aged 15-34; the main perpetrators are only 3% of the total US population

2012 FBI Statistics
54.9% of all Robbery
49.4% of Murders
34.1% of all Aggravated Assaults
32.5% of Forcible Rapes

It is because of socioeconomic stratification, lack of equal educational opportunities, and racist cops...or so I've been told

[Jackie S]

The Democrat Party sold out to the "vote for me, I will give you everything" mantra back when ole Lyndon Johnson declared, "we ill have those N...... Voting Democrat for the next 100 years".

They are the party of the Demagogue. The constitutes that they keep pandering too continually fall behind on the economic ladder

My question is, why do these constituents still vote overwhelmingly for he Democrat Party?