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Guest031811 · 02-21-2010, 08:00 PM

I’m concerned about some dangerous requests coming from hobbyists. Lately, I have been getting more and more requests for BBFS. I frequent the health clinic one a month for routine STD screening. I know that I am disease free, and I have no desire to jeopardize my health. It truly distresses me to get these requests because my only thought is, “This man must already have incurable STI’s since he doesn’t care that he is putting himself at risk.” This is like asking a doctor or a nurse not to wear gloves when handling a patient. We would never ask the doctor or nurse, “Please don’t wear gloves.” Furthermore, we would never agree to let someone handle our food with their bare hands after touching money.

Why is this any different?

Today, I had someone ask for BBFS. When I said that protection isn’t optional, he retorted that he “was looking more for a VIP type girl anyway and not looking to play around.”

Since when did VIP = BBFS????

I mean, WHAT IS GOING ON???????

My services aren't any good because I'm not willing to put my safety on the line??? I just don't get it.

KohanaKoa · 02-21-2010, 08:08 PM

Brittany, there are all kinds of idiots in this wonderful world of ours and I can speak only for myself that I would never engage in BBFS and would be appalled if it was even an option with a provider. It should be safety first for everyone.

Keep your head up babe, I would hope these moron's are in the minority of hobbyists...

Fast Gunn · 02-21-2010, 08:44 PM

I hope I don't ruffles your feather, but do you mean like in never, never?

Everyone here has done that, haven't you? At least once?

Off the clock or make-it-up session or some new name for making it special?

Buonas · 02-21-2010, 08:50 PM

I read a report about Europe the other day. in that report it said that competition is increasing due o the influx of providers from eastern Europe. this is said to have the effect of price wars and the offering of 'additional' services as unprotected stuff mentioned above.

maybe the same is happening here?

besides unprotected is like russian roulette with a suicide option on an installment plan. NEVER do that.

KohanaKoa · 02-21-2010, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fast Gunn

I hope I don't ruffles your feather, but do you mean like in never, never?

Everyone here has done that, haven't you? At least once?

Off the clock or make-it-up session or some new name for making it special?

Yeppers, I mean never, never. Again, I am just speaking for myself, but I never have and can't imagine I ever will engage in BBFS with a provider. Could just be me and my paranoia of catching something, just not worth the risk, for me.

charlestudor2005 · 02-21-2010, 09:20 PM

Had a provider who "forgot" the cover and offered BBFS. Fortunately, I keep spares. But I let the board know, and she became a pariah. You might warn the ladies on the ladies' board.

grtrader · 02-21-2010, 09:24 PM

There are a lot of things one can look at on this subject.
Everything from risk factor and reasons behind it.

You could start off with there is a greater risk for a female than a male having unprotected sex. It increases more and more with each additional thing you add. Such as it would be more risky for both if it is unprotected anal. Drug use and so on.

As to risk bbbj isn't much better considering all you need is a sore, or infection on your gum where you have cavity or something ...
Then you could look at issues as to how well someone knows and trusts someone. Husbands and wives cheat on each other. Lots of people out side of the hobby area have unprotected sex.

Not every STD requires semen transfer and a condom doesn't protect your from everything.

Then you could look at things racial issues. I won't quote the statistics but it may shock you which has the highest level and who actually has the lowest level of STD infection in the populace. I will say whites are not on the lowest or highest. Yes, there is a large difference in the number of percentiles making it kind of alarming.

There are more than a few providers willing to offer uncovered service. Just to attract the few extra clients.

Why would a client want it. For some guys a condom makes it near impossible to cum.

Is an escort any more dangerous than a civilian. Depends on the civilian you compare them to. If you are talking a civilian who is pretty easy and you might be able to get to on a first date probably not any more dangerous. If she is doing it to support a drug habit you have civilians doing the same thing.

Germany requires testing I think the UK does as well. What they should do is require testing for Johns as well require them to carry a card.

GingerOnTour · 02-21-2010, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fast Gunn

I hope I don't ruffles your feather, but do you mean like in never, never?

Everyone here has done that, haven't you? At least once?

Off the clock or make-it-up session or some new name for making it special?

Something tells me you are one of the many who request BBFS or fiddles with the condom in an attempt for BBFS. Even a year ago such a request was not common place, now I get at least 10 a week. I have NEVER and will NEVER provide BBFS but, I know many ladies do and those who do tend to have 3 things in common a substance abuse issue, a pimp, and extreme self esteem issues.

http://jennydemilo.com/?p=310

coven · 02-21-2010, 11:30 PM

Bareback? Why don't you just put a gun to your package and pull the trigger. It'll be quicker and you probably won't die.

Just my .02!

Coven

Cpalmson · 02-22-2010, 08:09 AM

It is not just the hobbyists who are pushing this. There was an ad on a reputable site from a provider who blatantly offered BBFS. She required proof of clean health but still very scary.

A long time ago, I was with a very young, very inexperienced provider. She couldn't have been more than 19 or so. We were going at it hot and heavy. She was about to get on top without a cover. My cock was only millimeters from going in, but my big brain over-rode my little brain as I asked for the cover.

pyramider · 02-22-2010, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brittanylennox

I’m concerned about some dangerous requests coming from hobbyists. Lately, I have been getting more and more requests for BBFS. I frequent the health clinic one a month for routine STD screening. I know that I am disease free, and I have no desire to jeopardize my health. It truly distresses me to get these requests because my only thought is, “This man must already have incurable STI’s since he doesn’t care that he is putting himself at risk.” This is like asking a doctor or a nurse not to wear gloves when handling a patient. We would never ask the doctor or nurse, “Please don’t wear gloves.” Furthermore, we would never agree to let someone handle our food with their bare hands after touching money.

Why is this any different?

Today, I had someone ask for BBFS. When I said that protection isn’t optional, he retorted that he “was looking more for a VIP type girl anyway and not looking to play around.”

Since when did VIP = BBFS????

I mean, WHAT IS GOING ON???????

My services aren't any good because I'm not willing to put my safety on the line??? I just don't get it.

This is a simple problem to solve . . . Just tell the BBFS requester "NO."

newalhobbyist · 02-22-2010, 08:31 PM

I am in the "Never" camp.

Guest031811 · 02-22-2010, 10:36 PM

Pyramider-

I think if this was an isolated issue, I would have just rolled my eyes and told the man to hit the trail. However, it is becoming VERY common to request this. Which is why I am concerned.

Fast Gunn · 02-22-2010, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GingerOnTour

Something tells me you are one of the many who request BBFS or fiddles with the condom in an attempt for BBFS. Even a year ago such a request was not common place, now I get at least 10 a week. I have NEVER and will NEVER provide BBFS but, I know many ladies do and those who do tend to have 3 things in common a substance abuse issue, a pimp, and extreme self esteem issues.

http://jennydemilo.com/?p=310

There is one important item left off your list, Ginger.

Substance abuse, a pimp, or self esteem issues do not even enter it in either case.

bbbj is a treat and a very delicious pleasure.

Pity someone would deny themselves such a natural pleasure simply because they doubt the ability of their own immune system to deal with whatever comes along.

You can get a good idea of how healthy a person is by how they look, how they talk and how their eyes look. Be alert. Keep your own eyes open. Keep your sense of smell open and you determine how safe it feels.

charlestudor2005 · 02-23-2010, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GingerOnTour

Something tells me you are one of the many who request BBFS or fiddles with the condom in an attempt for BBFS. Even a year ago such a request was not common place, now I get at least 10 a week. I have NEVER and will NEVER provide BBFS but, I know many ladies do and those who do tend to have 3 things in common a substance abuse issue, a pimp, and extreme self esteem issues.

http://jennydemilo.com/?p=310

Just wanted to point out the math here. Let's assume 10% of guys are asking for BBFS (which is probably a high percentage), she is seeing 100 guys a week. If it is half that (5%, which is probably more reasonable) then she's seeing 200 guys per week. At 200 a week, that's approximately 28 per day. IMHO, that's a lot, and she must be really packing them in.