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Old 06-22-2012, 12:03 PM   #1
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Default Issa arrested on weapons charges twice

the charges were dropped the first time, he plead no contest the second time.


ironic isnt it?
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:05 PM   #2
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How many years ago was that, CBJ7? What has happened to him in the meantime?

Oh, I forgot. Inconvenient facts are to be ignored. Sorry.

Nothing to see here. Move on.
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:12 PM   #3
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1970 after he left the army

whats happened to him since ?

apparently he schmoozed a business deal and became a millionaire REPUBLICAN style .. but now he's chasing Obies tail and spending taxpayer $$$ to do it ... yet another republican "cut government spending" method..
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:18 PM   #4
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the charges were dropped the first time, he plead no contest the second time.


ironic isnt it?
Does this make Holder's perjury and obstruction less serious? Does this mean that two American ICE agents aren't dead because of Fast and Furious? This reminds me of the way Ken Starr was demonized during the Clinton impeachment.

It's a classic Dimo tactic of distracting attention away from the real issue. Never mind, the AG and the president are criminals, their accuser is imperfect, that's the real problem!
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Does this make Holder's perjury and obstruction less serious? Does this mean that two American ICE agents aren't dead because of Fast and Furious? This reminds me of the way Ken Starr was demonized during the Clinton impeachment.

It's a classic Dimo tactic of distracting attention away from the real issue. Never mind, the AG and the president are criminals, their accuser is imperfect, that's the real problem!

didnt know holder was up on perjury charges ... did you make that up?


nonetheless, I thought irrelevent, distracting threads was what you girls thrived on .. didnt like it huh?
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It just shows you that thugs can get into these elected positions and spout off hypocrisy all the while collecting money from thier wealthy supporters and lining their pockets and lying to the public.

By the way; Court records on file in Issa’s hometown of Cleveland Heights, Ohio, show that in March 1972, one month after getting out of the Army, Issa was arrested on charges of carrying a concealed weapon and auto theft.

In May 1972, a grand jury indicted Issa on a larceny charge in connection with the car theft but dropped the weapons charge. Two weeks later, a prosecutor dropped the car theft charge as well.

Months later, when Issa was attending college in Michigan, he was fined $100 and put on three months’ probation after being arrested for possession of an unregistered handgun, Michigan court records show.

On Dec. 18, Issa pleaded either guilty or no contest to the charge, the records indicate. A magistrate fined him and put him on probation. He also was ordered to pay $107 in court costs, the records show.
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:52 PM   #7
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didnt know holder was up on perjury charges ... did you make that up?


nonetheless, I thought irrelevent, distracting threads was what you girls thrived on .. didnt like it huh?
I didn't say Holder had been officially charged with perjury. It's obvious to anyone who's been following his congressional testimony that he's lied under oath; that means he's perjured himself. He also hasn't been charged with obstruction, even though his noncompliance with the Fast and Furious investigation is obviously de facto obstruction. Not being charged with a crime doesn't mean you're innocent and it doesn't mean you won't be charged in the future.
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I didn't say Holder had been officially charged with perjury. It's obvious to anyone who's been following his congressional testimony that he's lied under oath; that means he's perjured himself. He also hasn't been charged with obstruction, even though his noncompliance with the Fast and Furious investigation is obviously de facto obstruction. Not being charged with a crime doesn't mean you're innocent and it doesn't mean you won't be charged in the future.

oh, you just tossed in perjury for the hell of it ...

no charges doesnt mean youre innocent ... got it

guilty until proven innocent ...


gee, all this time I thought our legal system worked just the opposit.
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It just shows you that thugs can get into these elected positions and spout off hypocrisy all the while collecting money from thier wealthy supporters and lining their pockets and lying to the public.

By the way; Court records on file in Issa’s hometown of Cleveland Heights, Ohio, show that in March 1972, one month after getting out of the Army, Issa was arrested on charges of carrying a concealed weapon and auto theft.

In May 1972, a grand jury indicted Issa on a larceny charge in connection with the car theft but dropped the weapons charge. Two weeks later, a prosecutor dropped the car theft charge as well.

Months later, when Issa was attending college in Michigan, he was fined $100 and put on three months’ probation after being arrested for possession of an unregistered handgun, Michigan court records show.

On Dec. 18, Issa pleaded either guilty or no contest to the charge, the records indicate. A magistrate fined him and put him on probation. He also was ordered to pay $107 in court costs, the records show.
Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that I concede that Darrell Issa is the Devil. How does that change the likelihood of Holder's guilt? As long Issa's allegations are consistant with the facts, it shouldn't matter if he has a shady past. If it turns out that Issa is a serial murderer, does that mean that Holder must be an angel? Your argument is a non sequitur.
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Old 06-22-2012, 01:10 PM   #10
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BAAAHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


lets not assume shit

lets just take a closer look at who is in charge of the OVERSIGHT Com. and ask who in the hell oversees Issa ... a criminal.
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Old 06-22-2012, 01:13 PM   #11
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oh, you just tossed in perjury for the hell of it ...

no charges doesnt mean youre innocent ... got it

guilty until proven innocent ...


gee, all this time I thought our legal system worked just the opposit.
If I witness my next door neighbor murdering someone, am I supposed to refrain from calling him a murderer until after the trial and all the appeals are exhausted? Am I to assume that maybe I just imagined the whole thing?

In my opinion, I have witnessed Holder perjuring himself in his congressional testimony. We know now, that Clinton perjured himself in front of a federal judge, as well as suborning perjury. He was never convicted of either crime; he still a perjured himself.
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Old 06-22-2012, 01:20 PM   #12
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cant argue with your opinion

I can argue Issa is a criminal, and a multi-millionaire taking 150$K out of the government payroll, and chasing Holder around at taxpayer expense ...

since you mentioned Clinton. the republicans spent 100 million proving he lied and nothing happened ...

which begs tghe question

what will happen to Holder if hes guilty of everything your opinion convicts him of?
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cant argue with your opinion

I can argue Issa is a criminal, and a multi-millionaire taking 150$K out of the government payroll, and chasing Holder around at taxpayer expense ...

since you mentioned Clinton. the republicans spent 100 million proving he lied and nothing happened ...

which begs tghe question

what will happen to Holder if hes guilty of everything your opinion convicts him of?
Nothing happened? Clinton was impeached. The Senate would have removed him, except that Republicans thought it would be political suicide. If the economy had been weak, Clinton would have been removed from office. He should have resigned like Nixon did. The money spent on investigation was caused by his criminal misbehavior.

The state of California spent millions trying to convict OJ and he walked free. I don't blame the prosecution for the expense.
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Nothing happened? Clinton was impeached. The Senate would have removed him, except that Republicans thought it would be political suicide. If the economy had been weak, Clinton would have been removed from office. He should have resigned like Nixon did. The money spent on investigation was caused by his criminal misbehavior.

The state of California spent millions trying to convict OJ and he walked free. I don't blame the prosecution for the expense.

Impaeched indeed, but nothing of major consequence from keeping him from making the decisions presidents make ... ergo, NADA .. $100 million dollars worth of nada.


Nixon resigned ...

again I ask you, what happens to Holder ?? (not what you want to happen but the actual penalty for doing the things your opinion said he did) AND exactly how MUCH taxpayer $$ are you willing to spend even though youre at the top of the list bitching about our government spending $$
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did the cat shit on your keyboard joey?


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