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Old 09-14-2024, 09:26 AM   #1
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Default In case you’re wondering - Trump incites violence. And it’s gonna happen again.

This is an older story, released a couple of months after the peaceful and patriotic tour of the Capitol on 1/06.

If the handwriting was ever on the wall, it is now.

Trump’s anti-immigrant, racist rants are more over the top than ever. They’re being amplified by an equally stupid Vp candidate. (Actually stupider). And he’s Shlepping Laura Loomer along with him as part,of his team, a known racist agitator and a dumbass in her own right.

How long before the next heinous act of Trump inspired political terror?

Unless they change their rhetoric now, it’s inevitable.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/blamehttps://abcnews.go.com/Politics/blam...ry?id=58912889-abc-news-finds-17-cases-invoking-trump/story?id=589128

'No Blame?' ABC News finds 54 cases invoking 'Trump' in connection with violence, threats, alleged assaults.
President Donald Trump insists he deserves no blame for divisions in America.


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President Donald Trump has repeatedly distanced himself from acts of violence in communities across America, dismissing critics who point to his rhetoric as a potential source of inspiration or comfort for anyone acting on even long-held beliefs of bigotry and hate.

"I think my rhetoric brings people together," he said last year, four days after a 21-year-old allegedly posted an anti-immigrant screed online and then allegedly opened fire at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, killing 22 and injuring dozens of others.

But a nationwide review conducted by ABC News has identified at least 54 criminal cases where Trump was invoked in direct connection with violent acts, threats of violence or allegations of assault.

After a Latino gas station attendant in Gainesville, Florida, was suddenly punched in the head by a white man, the victim could be heard on surveillance camera recounting the attacker’s own words: “He said, ‘This is for Trump.'" Charges were filed but the victim stopped pursuing them.

When police questioned a Washington state man about his threats to kill a local Syrian-born man, the suspect told police he wanted the victim to "get out of my country," adding, "That’s why I like Trump."

Reviewing police reports and court records, ABC News found that in at least 12 cases perpetrators hailed Trump in the midst or immediate aftermath of physically assaulting innocent victims. In another 18 cases, perpetrators cheered or defended Trump while taunting or threatening others. And in another 10 cases, Trump and his rhetoric were cited in court to explain a defendant's violent or threatening behavior.

When three Kansas men were on trial for plotting to bomb a largely-Muslim apartment complex in Garden City, Kansas, one of their lawyers told the jury that the men "were concerned about what now-President Trump had to say about the concept of Islamic terrorism." Another lawyer insisted Trump had become "the voice of a lost and ignored white, working-class set of voters," and Trump's rhetoric meant someone "who would often be at a 7 during a normal day, might ‘go to 11.'"

Thirteen cases identified by ABC News involved violent or threatening acts perpetrated in defiance of Trump, with many of them targeting Trump's allies in Congress. But the vast majority of the cases – 41 of the 54 – reflect someone echoing presidential rhetoric, not protesting it.

ABC News could not find a single criminal case filed in federal or state court where an act of violence or threat was made in the name of President Barack Obama or President George W. Bush.

The 54 cases identified by ABC News are remarkable in that a link to the president is captured in court documents and police statements, under the penalty of perjury or contempt. These links are not speculative – they are documented in official records. And in the majority of cases identified by ABC News, it was perpetrators themselves who invoked the president in connection with their case, not anyone else.


Shoppers exit after a mass shooting at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, Aug. 3, 2019.
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The perpetrators and suspects identified in the 54 cases are mostly white men – as young as teenagers and as old as 75 – while the victims largely represent an array of minority groups – African-Americans, Latinos, Muslims and gay men.

Federal law enforcement authorities have privately told ABC News they worry that – although Trump has offered public denunciations of violence – his statements have been inconsistent and Trump's style could inspire violence-prone individuals to take action against minorities or others they perceive to be against the president's agenda.

"Any public figure could have the effect of inspiring people," FBI Director Chris Wray told a Senate panel last year. "But remember that the people who commit hate fueled violence are not logical, rational people."

While asserting that "fake" media coverage is exacerbating divisions in the country, Trump has noted that "a fan" of Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders opened fire on Republican lawmakers playing baseball in a Washington suburb two years ago. "Nobody puts ... 'Bernie Sanders' in the headline with the maniac," Trump said last year.

And, last year, Trump similarly insisted that the man who fatally shot nine people in Dayton, Ohio, three days earlier "supported" Sanders and other liberal causes.

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Old 09-14-2024, 11:16 AM   #2
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Let's talk about all the people calling Trump all the things you call him, there are always some mental midgets with a gun that want to either die by suicide by police, or become famous. That's inciting a riot. When was the commiefornia cunt ever shot? Here is Trump giving a big 'fuck you' for those who would try to hurt him, his family, or his country.



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Old 09-14-2024, 12:10 PM   #3
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ABC..what a joke and late on the facts as usual. It didn’t mention anything about a Minnesota Governor who didn’t lift a finger to stop rioters from burning down black own business in Minneapolis or a future VP who bailed out rioters to get them back on the streets or a DC mayor who stood by as “peaceful” protester attempted to over run the White House (4 months before 1/6) Instead they torn down a bunch of national monuments and set a church on fire. But of course that was all inspired by Trump right? Is that what the left calls unity and Democracy? I call it an angry mob inspired by the MSM with their lefty activist “journalists “ and their Democrat oligarchs.

Dems always find fault and blame for everything but their own bad behavior. Perhaps ABC should engage in real journalism instead of propaganda which results in their ignorant viewers to make half truths, outrageous and factless remarks and conclusions that have been fed to them by a SocialistLiberalAntiTrumper media bottle (ABC) with a nipple on it with the shape of their own favorite appendage to nurse. God I feel sorry for them. They are the angriest people on the planet.
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Old 09-14-2024, 12:27 PM   #4
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What aboutism. Plain and simple.

TDL, you're flailing, bud, for a change. Tammy Wynette was singing to all you stalwart MAGAs.

And as for he claim that Democrats calling poor Trump names inspired a stupid registered republican KID to take a shot at him is laughable. If anybody inspired that violence it was Twitler himself.

Besides, the shooter must have been a RINO. We'll never know who put him up to it, though. I'm sure you'll say it was the Democrats.

JEEZISSS!
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Old 09-14-2024, 12:39 PM   #5
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ABC..what a joke and late on the facts as usual. It didn’t mention anything about a Minnesota Governor who didn’t lift a finger to stop rioters from burning down black own business in Minneapolis or a future VP who bailed out rioters to get them back on the streets or a DC mayor who stood by as “peaceful” protester attempted to over run the White House (4 months before 1/6) Instead they torn down a bunch of national monuments and set a church on fire. But of course that was all inspired by Trump right? Is that what the left calls unity and Democracy? I call it an angry mob inspired by the MSM with their lefty activist “journalists “ and their Democrat oligarchs.

Dems always find fault and blame for everything but their own bad behavior. Perhaps ABC should engage in real journalism instead of propaganda which results in their ignorant viewers to make half truths, outrageous and factless remarks and conclusions that have been fed to them by a SocialistLiberalAntiTrumper media bottle (ABC) with a nipple on it with the shape of their own favorite appendage to nurse. God I feel sorry for them. They are the angriest people on the planet.
... Blimey! ... ABC News calls out cases of "Trump violence"??

Where was ABC News calling out the "Summer of Love" violence
destroying city blocks and what-not?? ... Or was Trump
behind those attacks also?

And the threats, violence and vandalism at university.
"Kill the Jews!" and "Death to America"??
Not quite seeing ABC calling THAT out. ... Odd thing...

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Stop hitting your own like button YR. The article you posted was pure baiting garbage and you know it.
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Old 09-14-2024, 12:46 PM   #7
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I beg your pardon.

Not garbage, proven fact, and obviously something that needs to be discussed.
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Old 09-14-2024, 12:52 PM   #8
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... Blimey! ... ABC News calls out cases of "Trump violence"??

Where was ABC News calling out the "Summer of Love" violence
destroying city blocks and what-not?? ... Or was Trump
behind those attacks also?

And the threats, violence and vandalism at university.
"Kill the Jews!" and "Death to America"??
Not quite seeing ABC calling THAT out. ... Odd thing...

#### Salty
Give us all a break with that bullshit already. You seem to post it every day. What aboutism with a RWW spin on it.

Do you have any citation for ABC NOT covering the "Summer of Love" violence? Here's an ABC REPORT on it https://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/wav...ation-71999866

Are they NOT covering the Pro-Palestinian protests? I seem to remember seeing something about it almost EVERY DAY on ABC. A cursory search of the ABC website turns up 767 stories about antisemitism on campus and another 29781 stories about pro-Palestinian violence. I find your frequent repetition of those dogwhistles personally offensive. This is America, Salty.

ABC is a news organization, not Fox pundits or CNN pundits or whatever the fuck you want to call the clowns who talk into the mic on Newsmax, OANN or the other sources of your "inside information."

This story was from four years ago. And it's based on FACTS, not spin.

Their job is to report the news, which they do quite well. Report. Not create. They can be held accountable. Like Fox was.

Want to bet on the outcome of Trumps suit against them?

Got it?

I agree with their assessment. I sense the increased hate speech on the streets (not to mention the fact that it seems to be creeping back into the pages of ECCIE.) It's time to denounce Trump.
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... And I see Increased Hate Speech on university campuses.
Trump's NOT responsible for THAT.

Joe, Kamala and the Democrat leaders you favour are.

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Give us all a break with that bullshit already. You seem to post it every day. What aboutism with a RWW spin on it.

Do you have any citation for ABC NOT covering the "Summer of Love" violence? Here's an ABC REPORT on it https://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/wav...ation-71999866

Are they NOT covering the Pro-Palestinian protests? I seem to remember seeing something about it almost EVERY DAY on ABC. A cursory search of the ABC website turns up 767 stories about antisemitism on campus and another 29781 stories about pro-Palestinian violence. I find your frequent repetition of those dogwhistles personally offensive. This is America, Salty.

ABC is a news organization, not Fox pundits or CNN pundits or whatever the fuck you want to call the clowns who talk into the mic on Newsmax, OANN or the other sources of your "inside information."

This story was from four years ago. And it's based on FACTS, not spin.

Their job is to report the news, which they do quite well. Report. Not create. They can be held accountable. Like Fox was.

Want to bet on the outcome of Trumps suit against them?

Got it?

I agree with their assessment. I sense the increased hate speech on the streets (not to mention the fact that it seems to be creeping back into the pages of ECCIE.) It's time to denounce Trump.
... Why don't you denounce ALL the Hatred and ALL those who add
to it?? .... OR doesn't that idea fit yer political narrative?

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I do denounce hate and violence. Always have.

Can you say the same?
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... And I see Increased Hate Speech on university campuses.
Trump's NOT responsible for THAT.

Joe, Kamala and the Democrat leaders you favour are.

#### Salty
That’s just crazy. Trying to link Jewish and Palestinian violence to any administration is just wrong. And insulting to boot.

Trump is not responsible for that and neither are the Democrats. How anyone could come to this conclusion is beyond me.
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Trump's presidency (and the rise of white nationalism) was a direct response to the racial climate Obama created. Obama the race baiter made BLM feel emboldened enough to call for the death of whites. For every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction.
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Trump's presidency (and the rise of white nationalism) was a direct response to the racial climate Obama created. Obama the race baiter made BLM feel emboldened enough to call for the death of whites. For every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction.
You’re about 95% right. I do however take exception to the term “rise of White Nationalism”. which was just an attempt to make normal people look like a bunch of haters and fascist ..which ironically goes to the heart of BO’s divisive identity politics. The rise of white nationalism is a myth..
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You’re about 95% right. I do however take exception to the term “rise of White Nationalism”. which was just an attempt to make normal people look like a bunch of haters and fascist ..which ironically goes to the heart of BO’s divisive identity politics. The rise of white nationalism is a myth..
Well-said.

A mere 2 generations ago, these beliefs that get called "white nationalist" were merely viewed as normal.
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