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[Ms.Lady Y]

What do you think a provider should be charging for hhr, hr 45minutes, 90 minutes 2 hrs.
How did you come up with this amount?
Should it be based on what they offer?

example-
One girl offers Greek and everything else, another girl doesn't offer greek or maybe DFK, should their rates/donation be the same?

I'm being real here I really want to know what you guys think a girl is worth and why/why not.

[Guest022718]

Shamelessly lifted from another thread, I give you the Burkalini provider worthiness formula:

Originally Posted by burkalini

Product: Pussy+Attitude+Atmosphere+Perf ormance+Draw = Price

Pussy= This is self explanatory
Attitude= May differ among guys. Some like a little sarcastic and some like quiet and demure.
Atmosphere= Does the setting and feeling add to your personal likes.
Performance= Again differs as to likes but how well is important.
Draw= This one is tough. Examples: beauty,age,body type,price or unknown factor

Add for all five categories or subtract for lack of=price

There is also an unknown. That is the ingredient that we all look for in a provider. This is different for most hobbyist. We just don't know why we don't like or like her we just do or don't .

Now after all that there is no making sense. It is what it is.

I would pretty much accept this as the gospel truth. The problem is that every guy is going to rate every single lady differently in each category based upon their own experiences and preferences. For example, you make no bones about being an older (late 40s) provider, and some might mark that as a negative, but I, personally, mark that as a plus. Some might be turned off by your "suffer-no-fool-gladly" attitude, but I find it meshes well with my personality.

Burk does not really mention menu in his formula, but it is probably there under "draw." But again, it is not just that. It is all items combining to make an experience. And the reason we guys keep seeing different providers is that the experience is unique with each one.

Ultimately, however, the question is not what each act or provider is worth. It is what is worth it to YOU to keep offering these services. What is it worth to ME to buy them.

It all comes down to economics. What are you willing to sell your product for, and what is the market willing to bear? How those two figures compare, and the volume you want to achieve, will determine your price point.

[capstone]

Originally Posted by hgritstoo

Shamelessly lifted from another thread, I give you the Burkalini provider worthiness formula:



I would pretty much accept this as the gospel truth. The problem is that every guy is going to rate every single lady differently in each category based upon their own experiences and preferences. For example, you make no bones about being an older (late 40s) provider, and some might mark that as a negative, but I, personally, mark that as a plus. Some might be turned off by your "suffer-no-fool-gladly" attitude, but I find it meshes well with my personality.

Burk does not really mention menu in his formula, but it is probably there under "draw." But again, it is not just that. It is all items combining to make an experience. And the reason we guys keep seeing different providers is that the experience is unique with each one.

Ultimately, however, the question is not what each act or provider is worth. It is what is worth it to YOU to keep offering these services. What is it worth to ME to buy them.

It all comes down to economics. What are you willing to sell your product for, and what is the market willing to bear? How those two figures compare, and the volume you want to achieve, will determine your price point.

While your examples take the philosophical stand on price structure, I am guessing that Ms. LadyY is asking for specific prices. So, here goes my take - bearing in mind that each provider should be free to determine what her time is worth, because we are talking about how much time we spend with a provider, aren't we? ;-)

I believe that the rate structure of $75 for 15 min, $100 for 30 min, $200 for 60 min and $350 for 120 min would be fair for this area. Others charge more and others less, but going to the above discussion of what the market will bear, this seems to be on average what the market is showing. And these prices would be for your typical GFE session. Extra services should be offered (if available) a la carte with a nominal fee (PSE for $50 extra; island excursions for $50-100 extra). If a provider does adjust her rates due to market conditions, it would probably be fair to "grandfather" her existing clients with older rates so as to not drive the base market away. Of course, other factors in setting rates would be the controlling of traffic (number of clients to be seen in a day), overhead (gas, airfare, hotel vs. private residence, etc.), supplies, marketing (posting of ads).

[MuffDiver1975]

This really is an interesting topic to me LadyY. How do you decide on the price of an experience? While I have a decent amount of disposable income to hobby, $250 for 60min seems to be my threshold to spend on a provider who is well reviewed, and I'm usually only willing to pay that for the first few visits just to see if we have any chemistry. After that, if the provider won't lower her donation for future visits in exchange for more frequent visits, I might repeat but very infrequently.

I don't see a problem with providers charging a little more for greek or GFE since most providers aren't willing to provide these services. Maybe somewhere around $40 extra. Otherwise I'd have to agree with Capstone's prices (assuming he meant incall). While this area isn't huge, there is enough competition to support those rates, and those prices would be low enough to entice guys to dip their toe in the waters.

In a nutshell, if your goal is to maximize your income, if your phone isn't ringing enough, lower your prices. If your overbooked, raise prices. This is just my opinion of course.

[Ms.Lady Y]

$75.00 for 15mins just sounds trashy to me. Reminds me of the **** whores standing on the corner. I don't ever see myself cheapening myself in that way. So un personal and belittling to both parties involved.
100 hhr that would have to be for a real good client that I see at least 3 times a week.

I myself think 100 for a quicky with a regular is good and 140 hhr, 240 a hr. If a client is a regular drop 20.00 if they want greek or gfe add 20.00.
So a regular after dropping 20.00 would be 120hhr, 220 hr and if they want gfe or greek it would be 140hhr and 240 hr, non regular would be 140hhr and 240 hr and with greek and or gfe it would be 160hhr and 260hr.


I have noticed lately that even the BP only girls are raising their rates to match the reviewed ladies. Would you pay the same for them as a well reviewed lady?

[Ms.Lady Y]

I wish the business would go back to the way it was a year ago. It just seems to be getting a lot more trashy and cheap. There was a time when everyone worked together to keep sites like this more classy, how long before it turns into another BP!

[burkalini]

Originally Posted by Ms.Lady Y

$75.00 for 15mins just sounds trashy to me. Reminds me of the **** whores standing on the corner. I don't ever see myself cheapening myself in that way. So un personal and belittling to both parties involved.
100 hhr that would have to be for a real good client that I see at least 3 times a week.

I myself think 100 for a quicky with a regular is good and 140 hhr, 240 a hr. If a client is a regular drop 20.00 if they want greek or gfe add 20.00.
So a regular after dropping 20.00 would be 120hhr, 220 hr and if they want gfe or greek it would be 140hhr and 240 hr, non regular would be 140hhr and 240 hr and with greek and or gfe it would be 160hhr and 260hr.


I have noticed lately that even the BP only girls are raising their rates to match the reviewed ladies. Would you pay the same for them as a well reviewed lady?

Not a fucking chance.

[MuffDiver1975]

No reviews for $250? I did that once, before I found eccie and got very lucky. Would I risk it again for $250? Hell No!

[I like rice]

I had a really long typed out thing about rates from 2000 to now and I realized it didn't matter. I guess I look for a price point of $150-200 for an hour usually (that's till twice what I pay my plumber or electrician for labor). I would guess most guys are about there as well and I can find that rate most places I travel to with a little bit of looking. I'll give a bit more if its someone I see has good reviews but $250 is my top dollar and thats probably going to be rare as life is expensive without having to pay high rate for companionship. And I would honestly hope that after the first meeting and we know each of us is safe that rate would come down. All I expect for an advertised rate is a single shot and fun foreplay. If I want MSOG I'd pay a little extra. I'm probably not going to pay extra for something like greek, as its been pretty common with girls in their 30 and most of them were doing that in high school as a way to not get pregnant. Other fetishes or role play I could see adding some. Back in 1999 an extra $20 was common for something like that where I played. I honestly don't care about a 30 min rate or 45 min rate because then I feel like we are watching a clock and that pressure just isn't good for whats going on. I'd take a BnG rate for $75-100 and I'd guess most of us would be in and out in 15-20 mins. because sometimes a guy just wants that to take the edge off. Why do you think AMP's are so popular? But no matter what I'd keep it simple. Give a rate for approx. time add a flat rate for your MSOG/Fetish.

Thats just me. Maybe I'm way off.

[Wnt2play]

+1 to what Rice said, lot of good times to be had for 2 bills and I'm not into anything exotic just good sex and a pleasant personality and looks. Especially after several meets and the comfort level is there I think that is reasonable to discount some. I have one UTR gal I see regularly and I do donate a little over $$ to her as I know from her work schedule I'm the only guy she see that day and she springs for the location. In my opinion $$.5 is pushing the top end for a top notch all around provider i.e. Presonality, Preformance, aPerance and Price are my determining factors as to whether I will repeat but everyone has different expectations in each category so no one size fits all. Just my opinion.

[Bigd1988]

Lady Y's donations are right where i think they should be. 240 for no holds barred experience ( Y this doesn't mean you get to tie me up the next time we meet). No Greek 200 and so on. Y's rates are about my max. And i don't go into a half hour expecting Greek, i get my time and get down the road. Also half are not what I prefer but have to sometimes.

[Guest022718]

Ok, gonna say my piece and be done with it.

I've paid 180 an hour for a 40's backpage BBW. She was a really good kisser. Had a great time.

I've paid 200 an hour for a very attractive 40 yr old squirting spinner with nice tits. Got real wet and had a great time.

I've paid 240 an hour for a porn star with HUGE tits. I still dream about them....biggest pearl ncklace I ever donated. Had a great time.

I've paid 260 an hour for the pleasure of Lady Ys company. She popped my greek cherry. I always have a great time.

I've paid 300 an hour for a late 20s redhead. She squeals when she cums. I had a great time!

I've paid 350 an hour for a tall beautiful brunette with a rocking body in her early 40s. She kisses with her eyes open. I had a great time.

I've paid 400 an hour for a 45 year old mother of 5. Blonde spinner with spectacular MMs. I have a hard time finishing in the bag.....but the sweet, cooing comments she was making to me during mish drove me over the edge. I had a great time.

Now, I hope to see all of these ladies again. But they were all different. Was the 400 an hour gal BETTER than the 180 an hour gal? No. Just different. What do all these sessions have in common? Two things: I paid the lady her going rate. And I had a great time.

Maybe I'm a sucker and a bad consumer. But, part of the equation from the ladies point of view is what SHE feels her time and her body is worth. And, I try to honor that. I understand people have budgets, and this will affect the amount of business some the ladies get. And I understand the need to offer specials at times when business is slow. But, this is a decision the lady has to make.

Good luck to all of you.

[DallasRain]

Lady Y has reasonable rates ....she is well reviewed and well respected here so she is well worth it!

I feel tha my rates are lower than they should be for my wide open menu////BUT I am comfortable with them and do quite well for myself.....I know alot of gals who charge "more than they should for what they offer",and thats their choice.A guy will choose to pay what he wants to pay.If he is unhappy he wont go back...if he is happy,he will be a regular!

[schmuckenputz]

Originally Posted by hgritstoo

Ok, gonna say my piece and be done with it.

I've paid 180 an hour for a 40's backpage BBW. She was a really good kisser. Had a great time.

I've paid 200 an hour for a very attractive 40 yr old squirting spinner with nice tits. Got real wet and had a great time.

I've paid 240 an hour for a porn star with HUGE tits. I still dream about them....biggest pearl ncklace I ever donated. Had a great time.

I've paid 260 an hour for the pleasure of Lady Ys company. She popped my greek cherry. I always have a great time.

I've paid 300 an hour for a late 20s redhead. She squeals when she cums. I had a great time!

I've paid 350 an hour for a tall beautiful brunette with a rocking body in her early 40s. She kisses with her eyes open. I had a great time.

I've paid 400 an hour for a 45 year old mother of 5. Blonde spinner with spectacular MMs. I have a hard time finishing in the bag.....but the sweet, cooing comments she was making to me during mish drove me over the edge. I had a great time.

Now, I hope to see all of these ladies again. But they were all different. Was the 400 an hour gal BETTER than the 180 an hour gal? No. Just different. What do all these sessions have in common? Two things: I paid the lady her going rate. And I had a great time.

Maybe I'm a sucker and a bad consumer. But, part of the equation from the ladies point of view is what SHE feels her time and her body is worth. And, I try to honor that. I understand people have budgets, and this will affect the amount of business some the ladies get. And I understand the need to offer specials at times when business is slow. But, this is a decision the lady has to make.

Good luck to all of you.

I wanna meet that squealing redhead...

[oldmanoftheroad]

I like you Lady Y but I don't think this site has become trashy at all.. Nor is it cheap. This business certainly is not cheap but yes, some of the girls can be trashy. NOT the ones here on eccie!! No way!! Lol...

There are trashy girls who charge a lot because some guy doesn't know any better. See mostly BP and some on SipSap - my opinion..

There are fine ladies who charge a reasonable rate and enjoy the fun time they have with the guy. Those rates can and do vary. Some of those are on BP and on SipSap as well.

This business and yes, it is a business in my opinion, is just like a few guys have pointed out.. Charge what the market will bear or don't, that's your call. Guys will pay for what they feel the service is worth and yes, some guys like that young chick no matter what she looks like. Others need that hot spinner that charges a little more because she can get it. Others want the wee bit of comfort and GFE they feel with a provider or two simply because she is laid back, not a clock watcher and likes the guys personality (or whatever)

I don't get to hobby all that often so when I do, I choose ladies I fit in well with.. I have a tendency to see the same one or two more often than not and neither of them is on here at all these days... That just means I haven't made it to see a few newer gals lately and it means that we all want something different. I can see where the new girl on the block gets a large bit of business as everyone wants to try her out.. pretty obvious when you look at the reviews..

Others offer specialty menus and it's their draw.. I get it...

What I'm trying to say is what several others have said as well.. charge what you think you can get. If you have little to no business, you're too expensive... for your market. Remember, your market is not the same as the girl down the street or up the road in another city... Whether you like it or not... your market is your looks, your age, your menu... (Damn good thing I'm NOT a provider, huh?)

Your BBBJCIM skills are awesome!! But for similar money and in several cases less, I can see a gal that doesn't want to shove a dildo up my ass and who I am very good friends with as well. That's no knock against you at all Y.. It's just is what it is...

I'd say you work as hard as anyone trying to make a guy feel good... but it's not all about that... It's about the connection we feel with a certain gal... at least for some of us... and some it's not... some just need to nut and be done!!

I will say a BNG special is a good idea... I've done that a few times and it was because like someone else said, I just needed to let go and move on again...

It's not up to us to set your rates. We can advise you, sure! But what the market will bear is what is the real answer... When you get tired of seeing 2-3 4 guys a day, raise your rates a bit and it will ease off... If you can only get one or two a week, then your market price is too high for what your offering... Which may be Greek but unless you love greek, charge extra for it!

Bottom line is we men need pussy... we will pay a certain amount for pussy depending on how much money we have, how often we can spend that money and who it is we are going to spend it on... If our funds are limited this week, we're gonna look for that better deal... If we need that island visit, we're gonna look for that. If I need a BNG, I'll look for the best deal there. If I am going to spend 30-45 minutes licking pussy, and 5-10 minutes on me, I hate to spend a lot of money to do that.. I'll be looking for that better half hour rate for sure!!

One last thing... something I thing more girls should so as a rule.. flirt with the guys a bit.. some do, some don't... But most guys love to be wanted. Hell that's why they are here!! BS or not if a gal says she wants me to make her scream, cum like crazy or whatever.. that's interesting to me... I hate the couple texts to invite you in then done thing.. but again, see, that's MY deal...

Enjoy the evening all!! Rant over...