What 2 Presidents have weaponized government to go after political opponents?

[oilfieldace]

Glad you asked?

Obama and Biden!

That folks is Nazi , communist at its finest!

Thanks O and Joe

[winn dixie]

There is more than 2 presidents to have done this.
The 2 most egregious of this act are
Lincoln and grant

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by winn dixie

There is more than 2 presidents to have done this.
The 2 most egregious of this act are
Lincoln and grant

You weren't alive then. So you can't accurately verify anything back then. Stick with the modern era. There is no doubt the OP is spot on.

[winn dixie]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

You weren't alive then. So you can't accurately verify anything back then. Stick with the modern era. There is no doubt the OP is spot on.

Very myopic approach to a broad question. Op could have asked just for 21 st century.
I stand behind my statement with vast knowledge of all of our presidents.
Not just from modern day echo chambers
Fdr weaponized against Japanese. Kennedy weaponized against the Kennedy family rivals. Lbj and Nixon weaponized against everyone. Both were ego maniacs. Oclinton obama Biden and trumpf all weaponized against political rivals

[farmstud60]

Originally Posted by winn dixie

Very myopic approach to a broad question. Op could have asked just for 21 st century.
I stand behind my statement with vast knowledge of all of our presidents.
Not just from modern day echo chambers
Fdr weaponized against Japanese. Kennedy weaponized against the Kennedy family rivals. Lbj and Nixon weaponized against everyone. Both were ego maniacs. Oclinton obama Biden and trumpf all weaponized against political rivals

You have zero logic on the last 20 years of Presidents, so pretty much worthless on history too.

[Salty Again]

... The point IS - the OP has stated which two - OBama and Biden.

Any thoughts on THEM??

#### Salty

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by winn dixie

Very myopic approach to a broad question. Op could have asked just for 21 st century.
I stand behind my statement with vast knowledge of all of our presidents.
Not just from modern day echo chambers
Fdr weaponized against Japanese. Kennedy weaponized against the Kennedy family rivals. Lbj and Nixon weaponized against everyone. Both were ego maniacs. Oclinton obama Biden and trumpf all weaponized against political rivals

You really don't know your stuff at all. FDR didn't put Japanese Americans in internment camps to weaponize Government against his political opponents. He did it as a National Security Measure after the attack on Pearl Harbor.

[winn dixie]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

You really don't know your stuff at all. FDR didn't put Japanese Americans in internment camps to weaponize Government against his political opponents. He did it as a National Security Measure after the attack on Pearl Harbor.

That's weaponizing. They spied on Germans and Italians and others here in the us.
Justify it all you want.
Not saying it's right or wrong.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by winn dixie

That's weaponizing. They spied on Germans and Italians and others here in the us.
Justify it all you want.
Not saying it's right or wrong.

The Japanese Americans were put in internment camps to minimize the chances of espionage. That has nothing to do with the Government weaponizing any Political Opponents of FDR.

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by oilfieldace

Glad you asked?

Obama and Biden!

That folks is Nazi , communist at its finest!

Thanks O and Joe

Can you provide any examples? Maybe the investigations aren’t weaponized as mentioned but rather legitimate instead.

But we’ll never know without more information. Your bias against Obama and Biden is there in your other posts for all to see. Maybe you should back up your claims with some facts.

[Jackie S]

I doubt recent Presidents are to blame as much as Congress, with help from a willing Mass Media.

The entire “RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA” hoax was brought to us by Congress, mainly in the form of Adam Schiff and Jerry Nadler, with the blessing of Speaker Nancy Pelosi. The simply made shit up, lied, and the Press printed it all as gospel.

As for now, all of the “charges” brought forth by various AG’s in cities and States stems from a ecutorial zeal fr charging someone for a crime when there is no victim. You hold the trial in a location that is heavily populated by citizens of the opposite political beliefs and the outcome is predictable.

We can do a lot of Monday Morning Quaterbacking when it comes to Presidential Actions of the past. Sure, Lincoln more or less ignored the Constitution during the Civil War. He felt saving the Union was worth it.

And FDR might have been over zealous, but what if his fears had been real, and he failed to act.

We are an imperfect Union lead by imperfect people. But despite that, The United States of America is still the greatest County on Earth.

[Yssup Rider]

Not a Hoax. The facts in the case were incontrovertible.

“Hoax” is a word never used in Trump’s crippled vocabulary before he heard it used on Fox News.

Now it’s part and parcel of the MAGA lexicon.

The only hoax in that deal was Barr’s stifling of the results.

You fellas are living proof.

[oilfieldace]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Can you provide any examples? Maybe the investigations aren’t weaponized as mentioned but rather legitimate instead.

But we’ll never know without more information. Your bias against Obama and Biden is there in your other posts for all to see. Maybe you should back up your claims with some facts.

Perhaps you can educate yourself

[oilfieldace]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

I doubt recent Presidents are to blame as much as Congress, with help from a willing Mass Media.

The entire “RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA” hoax was brought to us by Congress, mainly in the form of Adam Schiff and Jerry Nadler, with the blessing of Speaker Nancy Pelosi. The simply made shit up, lied, and the Press printed it all as gospel.

As for now, all of the “charges” brought forth by various AG’s in cities and States stems from a ecutorial zeal fr charging someone for a crime when there is no victim. You hold the trial in a location that is heavily populated by citizens of the opposite political beliefs and the outcome is predictable.

We can do a lot of Monday Morning Quaterbacking when it comes to Presidential Actions of the past. Sure, Lincoln more or less ignored the Constitution during the Civil War. He felt saving the Union was worth it.

And FDR might have been over zealous, but what if his fears had been real, and he failed to act.

We are an imperfect Union lead by imperfect people. But despite that, The United States of America is still the greatest County on Earth.

Your last sentence sounds like a public statement made by Obama and he asked for help to fundamentally change it???

[oilfieldace]

Originally Posted by winn dixie

That's weaponizing. They spied on Germans and Italians and others here in the us.
Justify it all you want.
Not saying it's right or wrong.

Hey chief , what has the German and Italians figure in to political opponents