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Old 02-12-2014, 11:16 AM   #1
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Default What happened to the democratic party?

In 1940 the United States under the command of a democratic president (Franklin Roosevelt) stood up to not one but three totalitarian empires (Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, and the Japanese Empire), fought a war and won.
By 1980 the democratic president did not even recognize that a war was coming from radical Islam (Iran) and only weakly opposed the ongoing Soviet threat (Afghanistan, Cuba and Central Africa).


In 1950 the United States under a the command of a democratic president (Harry Truman) drew line in the sand against the encroachment of world communism (Korea, East Germany, Greece, China, Eastern Europe)
By 2000 the democratic president (Bill Clinton) was giving aid to communist China, Russia, and ignoring the growing threat in Sudan, Afghanistan, and Iran giving only token resistance.


In 1940 the United States under the control of a democratic Congress unleased the industrial might of this country to fight the great war. The United States built more equipment than any other country in the history of the world.
By 1980 the democratic Congress was passing laws that limited how business operated, put impediments in front of the success of small business, and redistributed wealth to undeserving people.


In 1948 the democratic party offered as a candidate a warrior (Truman), in 1952 and 1956 a man worked towards victory in World War II (Stevenson), in 1960 a warrior (Kennedy), in 1968 another man who worked for victory in World War II (Humphrey), in 1972 they offered a warrior (McGovern), in 1976 they offered a man who shirked his duty to the country to run for office (Carter), in 1984 they offered a warrior (Mondale), in 1988 a pacifist (Dukakis), in 1992 a draft dodger (Clinton), in 2000 a man with a questionable military background (Gore), in 2004 another man who after serving honorably dishonored himself by protesting and lying about his service (Kerry), and you know the rest, a man who has only served himself (Obama). What happened to the democratic party?


Would you cheer the victory of a team that refused to obey the rules and allowed to break them as the officials stood by and watched? Don't think professiona wrestlling but think of a football game where only one team could hit a reciever in the knees with a baseball bat without fear of a penalty flag. Would you cheer that victory? Today's democrats might do just that if their politics are any indication. Today's democrats only care about winning and not serving the country. Voter fraud? We're okay with that. Voter suppression? Fine by us. Irregular campaign financing? If it can't be proven then we love it. Run an empty suit without qualifications? If we win then it's all good.

Obama has pushed back the employer mandate again illegally but he won't be called on it by the people who count. The SCOTUS decided that Obamacare was a tax and all tax bils must come from the House. That means any changes to any current law must come from the House. Obama is a totalitarian of the type that the democratic party used to stand against. Now Obama wants to circumvent the 5th amendment (self incrimination). Any company with between 55 and 100 workers gets to postpone the employer mandate (tax, remember) but only if they document that they did not reduce the number of employees in order to avoid Obamacare. They want the business community to preemptively incriminate themselves. Obama has criminalized typical business decisions. Companies reduce their work forces for various reasons including tax (Obamacare) avoidance. Now it is criminal to do so but they are allowed to lie on a form so Obama doesn't get the blame.

The GOP is going to stand by and allow this because they have been cowed by a corrupt press and political attacks.

This is not the same democratic party who fought the wars and built the industry of this country. They may as well stop callng themselves democrats. They are progressive socialists and should be honest about it.
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Old 02-12-2014, 11:52 AM   #2
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the Socialist Party doesn't identify the Democratic Party as "Socialists", just the opposite ..


what makes your opinion of them just the opposite of Socialists that wrote the book?


oh wait, you're an idiot, never mind.
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Old 02-12-2014, 02:06 PM   #3
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This is an easy one....the Democartic party has been taken over by far left radicals and by progressives....Real progressives like got started out in California back in the 1920's and earlier.....go google the California progressive era and read up on it....this is the ideals this current bunch sprung from....even though most of them are not even smart or well read enough to know it.

This is NOT the Democratic party of 70 years ago anymore......
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In 1940 the United States under the command of a democratic president (Franklin Roosevelt) stood up to not one but three totalitarian empires (Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, and the Japanese Empire), fought a war and won.

That same administration waited long enough that Germany was allowed to roll over Europe and kill how many Jews?

By 1980 the democratic president did not even recognize that a war was coming from radical Islam (Iran) and only weakly opposed the ongoing Soviet threat (Afghanistan, Cuba and Central Africa).

After Vietnam, there was no real will for America to intervene.

In 1950 the United States under a the command of a democratic president (Harry Truman) drew line in the sand against the encroachment of world communism (Korea, East Germany, Greece, China, Eastern Europe)

Drew the line? How did that work out?

By 2000 the democratic president (Bill Clinton) was giving aid to communist China, Russia, and ignoring the growing threat in Sudan, Afghanistan, and Iran giving only token resistance.

Clinton gave aid to multi-national US based corporations, to flood the labor markets with new workers


In 1940 the United States under the control of a democratic Congress unleased the industrial might of this country to fight the great war. The United States built more equipment than any other country in the history of the world.

In 1940 America had some industrial might to deploy. These were US companies that put the US and her citizens first.


By 1980 the democratic Congress was passing laws that limited how business operated, put impediments in front of the success of small business, and redistributed wealth to undeserving people.

By 1980 and certainly by 2000, there was no US industrial might left. MNCs have allegiance to no country.


The GOP is going to stand by and allow this because they have been cowed by a corrupt press and political attacks.

The GOP is merely a political front for the US Chamber of Commerce.

This is not the same democratic party who fought the wars and built the industry of this country.

No shit. LBJ and Nixon flipped the script 45 years ago.
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Both parties have been taken over by the far left and right it is why we are in the shitter now.
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Old 02-12-2014, 09:19 PM   #6
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Both parties have been taken over by the far left and right it is why we are in the shitter now.
You're correct.....and the far right folks scare me just as much as the far left....only for different reasons.
This is much of why I more and more identify with Libertarians
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Both parties have been taken over by the far left and right it is why we are in the shitter now.

Ahhh, but what does the far left care about? When it comes down to it some form of world communism whether it is the heavy Stalinism or the lightweight progressive-socialist agenda this is what the far left cares about.
What does the far right care about? Their country for one thing, their continued right to do things their way without government interference, the right to live their lives without interference.

I asked one time if you had to choose a world government, which one would you choose to live under? Communism? Socialism? A monarchy? An oligarchy? Or maybe a constitutional republic. Like Churchill said, democracy is the worst form of government in the world....except for all the rest.
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Shirley Temple-1940 Republican



Honey Boo Boo-2014, future democrat and welfare mom
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Archie Bunker was your roll model JD ?
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Archie Bunker was a TV character played by liberal Carrol O'Connor in a show created by a liberal and written by liberals.

How's Murphy Brown these days Eva?
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The Democratic party is convinced that you can build a great country with millions of immigrants who depress the wages of the American worker, put their family on free medical care, don't pay taxes, and send their earnings back to their home country.
In Israel you earn you way or get shamed by the community.
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Old 02-13-2014, 09:25 AM   #12
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How's Murphy Brown these days Eva?
As usual your inability to answer a question. You forgot Archie was a bigot that fits you well. Are you defecting to the liberal side of the aisle?
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As usual your inability to answer a question. You forgot Archie was a bigot that fits you well. Are you defecting to the liberal side of the aisle?

Bigotry is a heavy charge and here, unproven. You should either withdraw it or prove it. Bigotry is in the democratic party. In fact, it is the home of bigotry going back over 150 years. Which party passes laws based on the race of those affected? The democratic party. Which party judges people by the color of their skin? The democratic party. Which party maintains a plantation mentality (you can't think different than the party)? The democratic party. Welcome home Eva.

By the way, Archie Bunker was a PARODY of a bigot. Go back to the 1970s and read some of the reviews of the show and read the TV guide interview of Norman Lear. Don't post in ignorance.
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The Democratic party is convinced that you can build a great country with millions of immigrants who depress the wages of the American worker, put their family on free medical care, don't pay taxes, and send their earnings back to their home country.
In Israel you earn you way or get shamed by the community.
Uhhhh, who who is convinced lower wages is how you build a great country?

Dems want immigrants for the votes.
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Bigotry is a heavy charge and here, unproven. You should either withdraw it or prove it. Bigotry is in the democratic party. In fact, it is the home of bigotry going back over 150 years. Which party passes laws based on the race of those affected? The democratic party. Which party judges people by the color of their skin? The democratic party. Which party maintains a plantation mentality (you can't think different than the party)? The democratic party. Welcome home Eva.

By the way, Archie Bunker was a PARODY of a bigot. Go back to the 1970s and read some of the reviews of the show and read the TV guide interview of Norman Lear. Don't post in ignorance.
Easy look at your pics of Palin and Clinton. Honey Boo Boo's folks are tea party material.
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