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Old 10-09-2013, 06:53 PM   #1
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Default If Obamacare is so great and the law of the land then why....

1. Does Dumbama decide who is exempt from the law?
2. Why is the employer mandate turned off?
3. Why have there been so many exemptions passed?
4. Why is the annual benefits provision being rewritten?
5. Why is the Obamacare website collecting your information and being shared with the IRS and law enforcement?
6. Why was the website not ready after three years? and NO it was NOT due to too many people trying to access the website.

I would put more but libtards are going to have issues getting to the second question as they have reading and comprehension issues.
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Old 10-09-2013, 07:00 PM   #2
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Default How Lame is the Liberal Media? It Takes Daily Show Jon Stewart to grill Sebelius over Obamacare Failure

Stewart to Sebelius on health care law “Am I a stupid man?”Posted by
CNN's Leslie Bentz (CNN) - "The Daily Show" took a more serious turn Monday night when host Jon Stewart introduced his guest for the evening, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius.


Sebelius, who has been on a media blitz in recent weeks as the health care exchanges for the Affordable Care Act opened for business on October 1st, has appeared on multiple networks to promote the new law and to attempt to temper criticism of its rollout.


As the secretary sat down to begin the segment, Stewart opened a laptop on his desk. “I’m going to attempt to download every movie ever made, and you’re going to try to sign up for Obamacare, and we’ll see which happens first.”

Sebelius admitted the website rollout “started a little rockier than we’d like,” but said the administration had been working to make improvements. “It’s better today than it was yesterday, and it will keep getting better.”


The sign-up websites were offline for part of the weekend as efforts were made to fix multiple glitches that caused delays for many who attempted to use the program in the first few days.


When asked how many individuals had signed up for insurance so far, Sebelius admitted, “I can’t tell you, because I don’t know ... we will be giving monthly reports.” She added that hundreds of thousands of accounts had been created, which indicated to the administration that those consumers “are going to go shopping” for insurance as the next step.


The segment became more contentious as the Comedy Central host turned to the subject of the individual mandate, specifically the fact that while many businesses were given a one-year delay to comply with the law, individuals were not.


“If I’m an individual that doesn’t want this, it would be hard for me to look at a big business getting a waiver," Stewart said. "I would feel like you are favoring big business because they lobbied you ... but you’re not allowing individuals that same courtesy.”
Sebelius denied that was the case, but danced around answering the question directly, sticking instead to talking points.


After pressing her further on the issue to no avail, a somewhat exasperated Stewart finally smiled and asked, “Am I a stupid man?”


Later, as he threw to commercial, Stewart said he still was “not sure why individuals can’t delay” and asked the secretary if he could keep asking her that same question when they returned.


Later, while addressing the issue of businesses cutting back hours for employees to avoid having to provide health care under the new regulations, Sebelius held firm. “Economists, not anecdotal folks, but economists, say there is absolutely no evidence that part-time work is going up. In fact, it’s going down,” she said. The secretary also said that for the first time ever, part-time employees in the United Sates would now have the option to purchase health insurance under the new law.


Toward the end, Stewart argued that a market-based strategy toward health care is a flawed concept in itself and that a single payer system would have been a more simple approach. But Sebelius jumped in, saying, “if we could have perhaps figured out a pathway, that may have been a reasonable solution.”


“So this is jerry-rigged to deal with the crazy people?” Stewart asked.
“I think the president did not want to dismantle the health care that 85% of the country had," Sebelius responded.
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Old 10-09-2013, 08:11 PM   #3
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If you were going to post any thread in the last 24 hours, this is the thread to post. You deluge the forum with so many similar posts you dilute your best ones.

You should have included the youtube videos also.

She simply is a baldface liar.
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Old 10-09-2013, 11:14 PM   #4
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Old 10-10-2013, 06:26 AM   #5
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Yes that's the clown with administrative control over Obamacare. No, the one on the left.

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Old 10-10-2013, 11:28 AM   #7
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That law that was passed by Congress, signed by Obama, and partially approved by the SCOTUS is not the same law we see today. Obama has made too many changes without the consent of the House which is where it officially originated (as do all "tax" bills). You can't really call this the law of the land since it wasn't written yet.
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Old 10-10-2013, 11:56 AM   #9
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Agencies implementing acts of Congress have considerable discretion in the scheduling and application of a law. ( Heckler v Chaney 1985) Secondly, why does the word "exemption" continue to be used when the "waivers" are for one year and are primarily for the adjustment from limited lifetime benefits to no limit. Exemption implies FOREVER. If you are serious about understanding the "tax" implications read the Supreme Court decision. It is explained in a manner anyone with elementary reading skills can understand. Congress did pass the Affordable Care Act.

Waivers granted for one year to allow adjustment to Plans...." 722 self-insured businesses, 417 groups of small employers joined in collective bargaining agreements, and 34 unions.
The Affordable Care Act requires insurers to phase out by 2014 the annual limits. The rule posed a challenge, however, to employers with "mini-med" plans, which charge extremely low premiums but offer truncated benefits and low annual caps. To keep workers from losing coverage altogether while their employers searched for an alternative, HHS granted waivers that let hundreds of mini-med plans keep lower caps in place until 2014."
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Old 10-10-2013, 12:12 PM   #10
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Looks like EVA is out to lunch today and his little niece is posting in his stead.
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By the time they are done changing it his son will be president.
It will be in a different language and it will be a Muslim country.
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Looks like EVA is out to lunch today and his little niece is posting in his stead.
In other words, you don't have a clue how to respond so you're resorting to your typically stupid ad hominem comments.

This bullshit you and your idiot cousin have posted up is nothing more than the latest right-wing echo chamber attempt to delegitimize a law proposed by a POTUS elected twice by the people of the United States, passed by the house and senate of the United States which is also elected by the people of the United States, and deemed legal by the Supreme Court of the United States. So,in recognition of the overpowering force and logic of those obvious truths, the next step in the absurd string of arguments made by the knuckledraggers against the healthcare law has got to to be that "Oh, it's not the same law that all those things apply to."

Have I told you to go fuck yourself today Professor? If not.....go fuck yourself. And, the next time you need me to blow up one of your silly arguments......you just let me know.
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You are absolutely right JD.


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That law that was passed by Congress, signed by Obama, and partially approved by the SCOTUS is not the same law we see today. Obama has made too many changes without the consent of the House which is where it officially originated (as do all "tax" bills). You can't really call this the law of the land since it wasn't written yet.
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By the time they are done changing it his son will be president.
It will be in a different language and it will be a Muslim country.
What a fucking moron!
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