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Old 06-10-2020, 09:19 AM   #1
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It's not over yet. Keep wearing your masks for a while longer. Be responsible.
And no, this isn't a "protest bump". That will show up in a week, week and a half.



"Coronavirus hospitalizations rise sharply in several states following Memorial Day
Why covid-19 isn't going away anytime soon
The pathway to overcome the coronavirus is long, winding and full of hurdles. Here's how the public can help. (Monica Akhtar/The Washington Post)

June 9, 2020 at 8:40 p.m.

As the number of new coronavirus cases continues to increase worldwide, and more than a dozen states and Puerto Rico are recording their highest averages of new cases since the pandemic began, hospitalizations in at least nine states have been on the rise since Memorial Day.

In Texas, North and South Carolina, California, Oregon, Arkansas, Mississippi, Utah and Arizona, there are an increasing number of patients under supervised care since the holiday weekend because of coronavirus infections. The spikes generally began in the past couple weeks and in most states are trending higher.

Data from states that are reporting some of their highest seven-day averages of new cases is disproving the notion that the country is seeing such a spike in cases solely because of the continued increase in testing, according to data tracked by The Washington Post.


Many of these states that have experienced an increase in cases have also had an increase in hospitalizations, with a handful of states also nearing bed capacity. Hospitalizations nationwide are difficult to track, with states reporting hospitalization numbers in varying ways, or not at all. Even states that do report hospitalization numbers may not have always received complete data from every hospital in the state at the time of their reports.

14 states and Puerto Rico hit highest seven-day average of new coronavirus infections

Texas has reported 75,616 cases since the pandemic began, and in 10 of the past 15 days, the state’s seven-day average of new cases has increased.

As of Tuesday, it has reported two consecutive days of record-breaking coronavirus hospitalizations. The state has seen a 36 percent increase in new cases since Memorial Day, with a record 2,056 current hospitalizations as of early Tuesday afternoon. It was up from a high of 1,935 hospitalizations on Monday.
Texas was one of the first states to relax their stay-at-home order. Businesses started to open up in early May. According to the state’s health department, Texas has 28.14 percent of available hospital beds open, and 1,723 available intensive care unit beds.
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Old 06-10-2020, 09:31 AM   #2
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It's not over yet. Keep wearing your masks for a while longer. Be responsible.
And no, this isn't a "protest bump". That will show up in a week, week and a half.
It began when the announcement was made re: businesses were first "re-opened" aka "Phase One" .... that Friday the streets had a 500% or better increase in traffic .... people were acting like newly released caged animals on the street and around businesses.

More than 1/2 the businesses I visit don't require masks now.
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Old 06-10-2020, 09:37 AM   #3
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More than 1/2 the businesses I visit don't require masks now.
You threw that out there like it's a good thing
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Old 06-10-2020, 09:42 AM   #4
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Testing is more readily available now
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Old 06-10-2020, 09:46 AM   #5
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You threw that out there like it's a good thing
None of the businesses I've been in recently require face masks other than when I got my hair cut.

I went into the Austin Regional Clinic recently and they most certainly required a face mask and asked questions about my health.

I still wear a mask in all public locations where there will be close contact with others. I do not wear one at the gym but I make sure to stay a safe distance from others and I've never used hand sanitizer as much as I do when I am there. I would estimate maybe 1 in 20 wear masks while working out. But everyone seems more focused on cleaning the machines affter use. I also now shower at home rather than use their facilities. Water fountains still closed.
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Old 06-10-2020, 01:11 PM   #6
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Time to move on. Impeach Judge Hildago. Play ball.
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I was in 2 stores the other day, a short distance from each other.. one required a mask, one didn't.. both were near the Dallas/Denton County line.. the one requiring, said Dallas County required a mask.. apparently Denton county does not.

I am concerned about the new hospitalizations, but I don't think you can close businesses again.. nor should you.. just try to be safe.

it's not just about who dies and who doesn't.. Tarrant County released a guy yesterday who had been sick with Co-VID, and hospitalized for 56 days. might have been better to die. who knows what symptoms he will never get rid of? and I hear that many who "recovered" still have no smell or taste, weeks later.
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You threw that out there like it's a good thing
No! You "threw it out there" like you could read my mind.

What good does a mask do?
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Old 06-10-2020, 03:17 PM   #9
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Given the amount of time people spent cooped up in their homes, if any of those states tried to "re-close", unless there were massive casualties, I imagine those orders would be soundly ignored. Not saying it's right, but I think that is where a lot of people's heads are at now.
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Given the amount of time people spent cooped up in their homes, if any of those states tried to "re-close", unless there were massive casualties, I imagine those orders would be soundly ignored. Not saying it's right, but I think that is where a lot of people's heads are at now.

pretty much so. especially given the huge cost from this lock-down and that it wasn't needed at such a scale anyway. most of this was an overreaction that won't happen again for several reasons. one, people aren't going to agree to it unless 10s of thousands are dropping dead and that clearly didn't happen then and won't now either. all those forecasts of 2-3 million or more dying were way off we now know. and the cost of the cure is becoming worse than the disease. the sustainability of a long term lock-down is clearly not possible. you'd ruin if not kill at least in the US tens of millions over a few hundred thousand.



now think of the impact of this global lock-down to less prosperous nations and you are literally condemning the poor in these nations to die of everything from sheer starvation to suicide. not to mention the mass rioting that would ensue.
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So, big deal. The only number that means anything is how many die.

As of now, nobody is sure that if it is any more contagious or for that matter, any worse in that department than any of the many Influenza outbreaks.
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Maybe the covid will get the protesters and shut them up!
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So, big deal. The only number that means anything is how many die.

As of now, nobody is sure that if it is any more contagious or for that matter, any worse in that department than any of the many Influenza outbreaks.
Jackie I certainly don’t know the answers to those questions and we may only really know a year or two after this is over BUT if the regular flu kills 70,000 in a year and COVID has killed 100,000 in 4 months I think we know it’s more deadly than regular flu.
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Jackie I certainly don’t know the answers to those questions and we may only really know a year or two after this is over BUT if the regular flu kills 70,000 in a year and COVID has killed 100,000 in 4 months I think we know it’s more deadly than regular flu.



i question the 100k count. it's being over counted by hospitals in part because there is financial incentives and doctors are using covid as a co-factor without testing just based on general factors like reported symptoms by patients that ended up dying.


my original estimate some time back was 63-66k deaths. given the over counting I'll stick with this as more accurate. which does put it in annual flu like numbers.
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Jackie I certainly don’t know the answers to those questions and we may only really know a year or two after this is over BUT if the regular flu kills 70,000 in a year and COVID has killed 100,000 in 4 months I think we know it’s more deadly than regular flu.
It kills people in high risk groups, such as the aged. Since I am 73, I am in that category.

But using A Pandemic to wreck a Countries economic viability so a certain political faction can have a better chance instituting a Socialist/Progressive/liberal agenda is wrong.

And don’t give me that “you’re just a conspiracy nut”. I trust Peloci, Schumer, Nadler, Waters, Schiff etc about as much as I would trust Socialist Thug.
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