Son of NDAA

[CuteOldGuy]

Now there is a bill that would allow American citizens to be stripped of their citizenship, again without trial. The direction is clear, and it ain't toward freedom.

http://www.libertynewsonline.com/article_301_31424.php

[dilbert firestorm]

and the hits keep on coming

[CuteOldGuy]

Nobody seems to care, which is why we end up with choices like Obama or Romney for President. And Pat Roberts in the Senate. And Mike Pompeo in Congress. Soon we learn that elections are a waste of time, and we won't have to be bothered with political campaigns anymore. We can sit back and watch Amerikan Idol, or Amerikan football, and let the government make all the other decisions for us, as long as we behave like good little serfs. Wasn't it that great philosopher Nathan Detroit who advised us all to "Sit down, sit down, sit down you're rocking the boat"? Yup. Guys and Dolls, it's almost over.

[Iaintliein]

It isn't a matter of "not caring". It's a simple matter of not discussing on the internet the few options that remain open. The very nature of these pieces of legislation, combined with advances in technology and existing precedent are compelling evidence that it's those who ridicule the "conspiracy theorists" who are, in fact, the loons.

The Soviets weren't entirely wrong when they said America had the "illusion of democracy". After all, the turn over rate in the old Politburo was higher than it is in the Senate. It proved to be a very fragile illusion at that, a few hundred muslim whack jobs, combined with a few hundred congressional whack jobs working together and the deal is sealed.

We lost the Republic with the passage of the 17th Amendment, and there is no way back. It has, in effect, been over since reconstruction, it's just taken the neo-Federalists a while to figure out how complete their victory really was. Now if anyone speaks up about "states' rights" they are tarred as pro-slavery, racist, apologists for the Confederacy. And if anyone speaks up about "individual rights" they're quickly put into the "anarchist" box.

"Bread and games" is, and always has been the correct political policy of successful tyrannies, and anyone who claims that we've "evolved" since the day the Colosseum opened is sadly mistaken.

[dilbert firestorm]

I don' t think that legislation would have been an issue if one were convicted of treason by courts and and by conviction summarily stripped of citizenship.

[CuteOldGuy]

Liein, you are the first one on here who understands the disaster wreaked by the 17th amendment. Add that to the 16th amendment and the establishment of the Federal Reserve, and there went freedom down the tubes.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Iaintliein

. And if anyone speaks up about "individual rights" they're quickly put into the "anarchist" box.

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Count me in that box!