Am I just a polite wuss?

[FireAway]

I have gone to Relax Asian Spa on 135th across from Menards several times. Each time (with all 3 regulars) there has been nothing but professional massage (no extras of any kind - even touching). It is close to me so I try again from time to time. Same result. Thye are all older women.

I have easy access at other locations, so I don't think I am too hesitant to test for extras (but I don't ask - only signals). Am I missing something or is this place truly a legit massage only (Yan (mms), Linda (very small woman) or Anna (trim with long hair in pony tail)? Occasionally, younger girls fill in. The massages are very good, but sometimes I'd like more. Maybe I just have to sacrifice location convenience to get more and lay back and just enjoy a good legit massage.

I'd appreciate feedback confidentially.

[FireAway]

Private PM appreciated.

[fmlazario]

[reallyniceguy]

It's a legit place. You don't sound like a newbie so I can't find fault in your polite, yet fairly obvious, indications of what you're interested in. I've done the same and legit places either dodge or make it clear "not here." If they're open, it's not even a struggle. It's been quite binary in my experience. Also, I think the myth of "converting" a legit lady is ridiculous rare to the point of near legend. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I'm just saying it's like a lottery. I have a list of places i know are legit and give AMAZING massages. I go there specifically knowing I can just calm the hell down and relax and enjoy the massage. I know nothing is going to happen. I know there will no stupid negotiation for tip. It's cool, that's what I went there for. Then... sometimes I immediately go elsewhere for a 30 min HE. So, if the massage is great, just enjoy it what it is.

[FireAway]

Originally Posted by reallyniceguy

It's a legit place. You don't sound like a newbie so I can't find fault in your polite, yet fairly obvious, indications of what you're interested in. I've done the same and legit places either dodge or make it clear "not here." If they're open, it's not even a struggle. It's been quite binary in my experience. Also, I think the myth of "converting" a legit lady is ridiculous rare to the point of near legend. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I'm just saying it's like a lottery. I have a list of places i know are legit and give AMAZING massages. I go there specifically knowing I can just calm the hell down and relax and enjoy the massage. I know nothing is going to happen. I know there will no stupid negotiation for tip. It's cool, that's what I went there for. Then... sometimes I immediately go elsewhere for a 30 min HE. So, if the massage is great, just enjoy it what it is.

Thanks for the thoughtful and perceptive response. I have found it refreshing to just let go and enjoy a good massage. I've noticed in other situations that, when my mind is conniving for more, I'm not feeling what's going on. I miss much of the enjoyment. It's nice to just relax and feel a good massage occasionally. At other times, a broader menu is actually easy to determine.

[FireAway]

Stumbled across an interesting trend...
Turns out all three of the workers are MARRIED TO OLDER AMERICAN MEN. That got me to thinking and remembering. First, the number of times I was asked if I have a girlfriend or wife. When I say "no," I get asked if I like Chinese women. That's usually followed with "I like you." So, I've been asking them. The ones who "have no menu" either have an American husband or boyfriend. Almost all are older men. I also get asked if I have any friends who would like a Chinese wife. It sure sounds like snagging an American "sugar daddy" is on the agenda for these gals - especially when you figure they can't afford a long term life in the US. I can't imagine many older American husbands would accept their younger wives providing sex for a living. There isn't enough in tips to compensate for risking losing that American sugar daddy.

Then, of course, there are some like Sarah who will make a lot more than most guys can provide.

So, it seems at least possible that, while many Asians want to marry an American in order to come to America, others are coming to America first and then trying to land an American to support them for the rest of HIS life, then their's. And offering sex to lonely and horney guys to get there probably works pretty well. To me it confirms the earlier comment about the myth of converting a legit worker.

So, for me, it's "I'm available so give me your best service." Of course, I'm not interested in a woman for a mate - especially if she's providing a full menu to every guy out there (you want Sarah coming home to you every night?). Double standard? Yep! But much cheaper than a wife.

Just my thoughts - and speculation. Relax and enjoy a good legit massage, and enjoy the easily accessible menu of one who is looking for "Mr. American Money." It's not being a wuss. It's being a monger.

Curious about others' experience. I'm no wizard.