Providers, Money, and Business

[sms918]

yes I know, sounds like I'm beating a dead horse.

Talked to follow hobbyist recently that is a whole lot more knowledgeable about hobby than me, about Providers and business sense.


I read about it all the time and hear about it all the time.

Providers need money. Rent, Phone, Car, Food, whatever.

Providers need more clients or in some cases any clients.

Where are all the hobbyists?
Yes it's summer (although almost over), heat, family time, short on hobby funds. It doesn't seem to matter what time or year. Yes a lot more at end or beginning of month to pay bills.

But I also hear and see from hobbyists who can't get sessions from providers. Sometimes same providers who claim their need money.

If your a provider that has all the clients they need, or your RW limits you than that's great, although socials can be fun for you too. Same for hobbyists.

If you don't want to be seen in pubic, most social gatherings no matter the type or place are pretty private. Choose the one or type that suits you.

Yes, finally the point.

SOCIALS...

If your new, use short notice board, put on board you need money or clients, or just want to keep yourself in people's minds, GO to socials.


You have real hobbyists, who you know have references and wish to see more providers. Screening is easier. Everyone I've been to, more men than women. The odds are your going to get future business from attending.

Now, the negatives. Your going to be hit on and ogled( maybe not negative).

If you really exaggerate the truth. A lot older, in reality or fact. Appearance (weight, face, breasts). Your personality is lacking.

It is probably better not to attend, because of losing future business.

[lovelyevelyn]

If they had it in a truely private setting such as let's say a pool party at someone's house, I may be inclined to try and make it out. But going to the current venue is too public for me personally. But that is a very valid argument for socials

[ck1942]

The issue, imo, in having events in private is obvious to me: even if the rules prohibit P4P, people of all stripes may presume that p4p is happening anyway, even if it really isn't.

Those presumptions will always make the group and the organizer/host a target.

All must understand and accept necessary risks in private or non private gathering places.

Yes, I have in the past decade hosted in many very private venues and 98 pct of attendees respected the rules inside the venues.

If folks want to play, they can and often do take it outside, which is fine by me.

Private venue or otherwise.

Heck, hasn't happened often, but we have on occasion had great fun in very public places ("Rumble on the River!" and others).

Truly private p4p parties happen all the time, but usually very limited in the numbers of participants which helps to reduce potential for notoriety and risks.

There is 'something' out there for all who look carefully and who can be trusted beyond minimal standards.

Much easier for all in the community to enjoy my style of events since the rules are what they are for all who are well vouched and verified. Meet and greets are just that. Not parties per se.

The bigger events have a more party theme ( think hollow weenie, mardi graciass etc.) and can be way more fun than the pedestrian M&Gs in which people get more time for more personal and even perhaps more intimate conversations.