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Old 02-05-2020, 05:57 PM   #1
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If another book is written, it will begin with a story of the bravery of Mitt Romney.
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Old 02-05-2020, 06:22 PM   #2
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True. Good article about him in the Atlantic:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...-trump/606127/

How Mitt Romney Decided Trump Is Guilty
Comparing the president’s behavior to that of an autocrat, the Republican senator explains to The Atlantic why he’s voting to convict him.
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In the end, the evidence was inescapable. “The president did in fact pressure a foreign government to corrupt our election process,” Romney said. “And really, corrupting an election process in a democratic republic is about as abusive and egregious an act against the Constitution—and one's oath—that I can imagine. It's what autocrats do.”
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Romney confessed that he’d spent much of the impeachment trial hoping a way out would present itself: “I did not want to get here.” In fact, that was part of the reason he wanted former National Security Adviser John Bolton to testify about what Trump had told him. “I had the hope that he would be able to say something exculpatory and create reasonable doubt, so I wouldn't have to vote to convict,” Romney said.

Still, he found the case presented by the president’s defense team unpersuasive. Romney had a hard time believing, for example, that Trump had been acting out of a desire to crack down on corruption when he tried to pressure Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter. The Bidens’ alleged conflicts of interest may have been “ugly,” Romney said, but it was never established that they warranted a criminal investigation. “No crime was alleged by the defense, and yet the president went to an extreme level to investigate these two people … and for what purpose?” The only motive that made sense, he determined, was a political one.


There's more in the article about the pressure he's gotten from fellow Republicans who wanted him to abandon his conscience and march along in lockstep with his party to acquit.

It also goes into the blowback he's gotten and how he expects it to affect his political future. It's a good read.
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Old 02-05-2020, 08:31 PM   #3
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What a gutless coward Romney is, and an fucking embarrassment to his party .....
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I like how the repubs yell that the impeachment was strictly a partisan event by the demos. ALL impeachments are partisan.
Romney was the only one with a conscience from that party.
And watching the vote, it wasn't partisan.
Only the repubs backed trump.
Every other political party voted for impeachment. So, that is two parties against one. (dem+indie vs repub)
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Old 02-06-2020, 07:06 AM   #5
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Add Doug Jones to the "Profiles in Courage" list:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/05/opini...tis/index.html

The Democrat from Alabama, where Trump is practically a demi-god, was touted by Republicans as the most likely to defect. Mitch McConnell says he's driven a nail in his political coffin.

And now instead of there being a Democrat who broke ranks with his party, it's the Republicans who couldn't muster a unanimous vote within their own party.
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Old 02-06-2020, 02:54 PM   #6
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My God, y’all are fools!!!
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Old 02-07-2020, 09:55 AM   #7
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Romney is a pompous ass that I did not vote for. I'm glad Obama beat that idiot.
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Old 02-07-2020, 06:42 PM   #8
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They already wrote another book. Titled Profiles in Corruption. Think it's currently #2 in non-fiction on Amazon. Though I do find it lacking. Lacking in anonymous sources, that is. Instead, he used actual, documented, facts - unlike the impeachment hoax.
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Old 02-07-2020, 07:36 PM   #9
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Romney is a pompous ass that I did not vote for. I'm glad Obama beat that idiot.
Just because Romney holds this as his higher calling



And trumps moral calling is this



I'll always bet on where trump puts his faith.
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Old 02-07-2020, 09:45 PM   #10
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They already wrote another book. Titled Profiles in Corruption. Think it's currently #2 in non-fiction on Amazon. Though I do find it lacking. Lacking in anonymous sources, that is. Instead, he used actual, documented, facts
By "they", you must mean this joker, the Breitbart editor, Glenn Beck conspiracy theory contributor, and PolitiFact-exposed spreader of falsehoods:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Schweizer

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...ositions-indi/

https://www.mediamatters.org/peter-s...etractions-and

Among his claims to fame:

- factual errors
- numerous retractions
- leaps of logic
- conclusions that go beyond the available evidence
- reporting fell apart under scrutiny
- trafficking in speculation
- sources that don't exist
- plagiarism

Not even close to #2 on Amazon nonfiction best-sellers:

https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-...text/157325011

But, you know, there's a sucker born every minute.
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Old 02-09-2020, 08:08 AM   #11
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...Not even close to #2 on Amazon nonfiction best-sellers:...But, you know, there's a sucker born every minute.

Yup. My bad. It's #frick'n 1 on the NYT Best sellers list.
Oh and happy birthday suckah
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Old 02-09-2020, 01:11 PM   #12
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Yup. My bad. It's #frick'n 1 on the NYT Best sellers list.
Oh, so now you're touting the New York Times. My, how the worm has turned.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffber.../#62d7dc5d3a7b

Here's How You Buy Your Way Onto The New York Times Bestsellers List

ResultSource, a San Diego-based marketing consultancy, specializes in getting books onto bestseller lists, according to The Wall Street Journal. For clients willing to pay enough, it will even guarantee a No. 1 spot. It does this by taking bulk sales and breaking them up into more organic-looking individual purchases, defeating safeguards that are supposed to make it impossible to "buy" bestseller status.
Holy covert bulk sales, Batman!

Not at all suspicious in an election year, especially for someone with such a sketchy history (see above for sources) to land a #1 spot on NYT while only scoring #22 on Amazon:

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Ha! That's like Bloomberg buying the Democratic nomination.
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Old 02-09-2020, 02:51 PM   #14
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Ha! That's like Bloomberg buying the Democratic nomination.
This is America. If the voters go for it.....
Already have a guy in office that failed the popular vote but you don't hear me saying to remove him because of it.
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Trump did not win California... that’s the reason, and, we can see how well California is doing... The electoral college decides, y’all don’t want it now, but as soon as you want/need another outcome you’ll be whining.
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