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11-04-2012, 10:07 AM
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new-details-discredit-fox-news-benghazi reports
A slew of new reporting this morning debunks Fox News reports claiming that the Obama administration withheld assistance during the Sept. 11 attack on a U.S. diplomatic mission in Libya. With these revelations, the combined conservative narrative as led by Fox News — that the Obama administration failed to respond adequately during the attack and that mainstream media has not covered Benghazi enough — is in further disarray.
The Los Angeles Times’ version of the CIA’s role focuses the most heavily on pushing back on Fox’s spin:
“At every level in the chain of command, from the senior officers in Libya to the most senior officials in Washington, everyone was fully engaged in trying to provide whatever help they could,” a senior intelligence official said in a statement. “There were no orders to anybody to stand down in providing support.”
Fox reporter Jennifer Griffin claimed in an “exclusive” report last week that the CIA denied Tyrone Woods, one of the four Americans killed in the attack, permission to help repel the assault. Griffin’s reporting spun off into a bevy of conspiracy theories on the far right. The Pentagon, White House, and CIA had all previously denied refusing requests for support. The New York Times reports on the Pentagon’s involvement:
[A] senior official also sought to rebut reports that C.I.A. requests for support from the Pentagon that night had gone unheeded.
In fact, the official said, the military diverted a Predator drone from a reconnaissance mission in Darnah, 90 miles away, in time to oversee the mission’s evacuation. The two commandos, based at the embassy in Tripoli, joined the reinforcements. And a military transport plane flew the wounded Americans and Mr. Stevens’s body out of Libya.
The new reports also contain previously unreported details about the CIA’s role in Benghazi. President Obama and Secretary of Defense Panetta did order U.S. forces into the region, but the CIA was the first to respond to the attack, arriving on the scene in under half an hour.
The lack of security at the outpost in Benghazi, far removed from the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli, has been the subject of inquiry by both Fox News and Congressional Republicans. The Wall Street Journal sheds new light onto why that was the case. The CIA and State Department had entered into a series of secret deals in which the Agency would provide emergency security to the diplomats operating within Libya.
While the State Department primarily relied upon local Libyan militias for day-to-day protection, as well as contracted British private security, the arrangement between it and the CIA explains why the outpost seemed under-protected. The revelation also will prompt a renewed look at the State Department’s decisions to remove Department of Defense-provided security from the Embassy in Tripoli, which were highly scrutinized during Rep. Darrel Issa’s hearings.
The primary role of the CIA was intelligence gathering and covert operations within Benghazi. Agents there operated out of an annex originally reported to be an offshoot of the diplomatic mission, revealed officially — and accidentally — during Issa’s highly politicized hearing into the Benghazi attacks. The Agency’s large presence may also help explain why the diplomatic compound was open to journalists and looters for weeks after the attack, as more vital intelligence documents were collected.
Washington Post’s David Ignatius has gone as far as to produce a detailed minute-by-minute timeline, of the events that night. These reports together give the clearest picture yet of the events in Benghazi. Rather than the Obama Presidency unraveling as the news organization has claimed, it appears to be Fox News’ narrative that is coming undone instead.
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11-04-2012, 10:29 AM
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11-04-2012, 11:01 AM
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Is that the best you got Joe Slow??
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11-04-2012, 11:12 AM
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Is that the best you got Joe Slow??
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Actually, I think that pretty well sums it up. Obama made a political decision that it was better to let people die, rather than use the military.
He answered desperate cries for help with a response of fuck 'em.
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11-04-2012, 11:19 AM
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I think you should be asking Louise that question. Is that all you got? Some cut and paste? They have had over six weeks to come up with a story but don't answer all the questions.
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11-04-2012, 11:34 AM
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I think you should be asking Louise that question. Is that all you got? Some cut and paste? They have had over six weeks to come up with a story but don't answer all the questions.
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Unfortunately, the Dimos don't need to honestly answer all the real questions about Benghazi. They only need to stall with misdirection, double talk and more lies until after the election, then it won't matter. It's not likely the Republicans will be able to remove Obama from office through impeachment; they probably won't even try.
I think it amuses Obama to allow people to be murdered, without any consequence. He thinks he's above the law.
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11-04-2012, 11:40 AM
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I think you should be asking Louise that question. Is that all you got? Some cut and paste? They have had over six weeks to come up with a story but don't answer all the questions.
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the pentagon released a report friday .. Fox lied.
Around 12:30 a.m. (6:30 p.m. ET): The Pentagon issues an order to a special operations team in Europe to move to Sigonella, Sicily - less than one hour's flight away from Benghazi. Over the next three hours an additional special operations team based in the U.S. is ordered to deploy to Sigonella. Neither arrived in time.
nobody issued an order to stand down or special op teams would have never been scrambled.
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11-04-2012, 12:06 PM
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Quote: " Everyone was fully engaged in trying to provide whatever help
they could " and everybody died, and the terrorist literally just walked
in, took the place and then raped and killed or ambassador, after which
Obama and his administration spent their time apologizing for a youtube
video.
And anyone would wonder why we need a new leader.
Hope and change! Hope and change! Hope and change!
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11-04-2012, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by bojulay
Quote: " Everyone was fully engaged in trying to provide whatever help
they could " and everybody died, and the terrorist literally just walked
in, took the place and then raped and killed or ambassador, after which
Obama and his administration spent their time apologizing for a youtube
video.
And anyone would wonder why we need a new leader.
Hope and change! Hope and change! Hope and change!
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nah, anyone wonders how fucking dumb you are to believe that bullshit ..
raped?
seems Fox skull fucked you, sport.
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11-04-2012, 01:59 PM
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Main stream media sucks!
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11-04-2012, 02:03 PM
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11-04-2012, 02:08 PM
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nah, anyone wonders how fucking dumb you are to believe that bullshit ..
raped?
seems Fox skull fucked you, sport.
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Typical liberal reply, no he wasn't raped, only just beaten
and killed. Come on, don't make it sound like it was something
actually bad.
You guy's crack me up with your convoluted reasoning that
seems to permeate all of your arguments.
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11-04-2012, 02:10 PM
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Typical liberal reply, no he wasn't raped, only just beaten
and killed. Come on, don't make it sound like it was something
actually bad.
You guy's crack me up with your convoluted reasoning that
seems to permeate all of your arguments.
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dont look now but a rightwinger made the rape claim, not me
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11-04-2012, 02:23 PM
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Gawd, CBJ7, your comprehension skills decay daily.
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11-04-2012, 02:25 PM
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Gawd, CBJ7, your comprehension skills decay daily.
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Quote: " Everyone was fully engaged in trying to provide whatever help
they could " and everybody died, and the terrorist literally just walked
in, took the place and then raped and killed or ambassador, after which
Obama and his administration spent their time apologizing for a youtube
video.
who said that COF ?
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