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12-05-2019, 08:05 PM
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Waco Kid's college football 2019 week 15
Each week upcoming games can be discussed and predictions made, name-calling after victories and general all-around college football discussion! Each week will be closed out by the next Monday and a new thread opened for the current college football schedule for each week.
Rules -
"Rules?? We don't need no stinkin’ rules!”
Actually we do.
WKWCFR rule 1
"Lies, damn lies and statistics!"
British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli
If you quote a stat, record, 3rd down conversion rate, an all-time mark or the number of jock straps an 85-man team needs ...
Post it! If you can't post a link to it, it's bogus!
What's valid in the Internet age? Just about anything! Any of the major sports publications, local newspapers, any of the big networks and official school and NCAA sites just to cover the big ones.
WKWCFR rule 2
Predictions must be posted 1 day in advance! If you haven't read the sports page and figgured out who's going to win by the day before ya never will!
Must be time stamped before Midnight the day before game-day, for any weekly games Thur-Sun on the current weekly schedule.
So there you have it, pretty basic! You can post on general topics of your favorite teams regardless of that week's opponent. Just remember WKWCFR rule 1
https://sports.yahoo.com/college-football/rankings/
Poll Date : December 01, 2019
AP Top 25
Team
PtsTrendW/LLastNext
1. LSU
1528-12-0 LSU 50 - @TAMU 7
vs UGA(4)
Sat, Dec 7, 3:00 PM CST
2. Ohio State
1498-12-0 OSU 56 - MICH 27
@ WIS(10)
Sat, Dec 7, 7:00 PM CST
3. Clemson
1437-12-0 CLEM 38 - SC 3
vs UVA(22)
Sat, Dec 7, 6:30 PM CST
4. Georgia
1356-11-1 UGA 52 - GT 7
@ LSU(1)
Sat, Dec 7, 3:00 PM CST
5. Utah
1275-11-1 UTAH 45 - @COLO 15
@ ORE(13)
Fri, Dec 6, 7:00 PM CST
6. Oklahoma
1257-11-1 OU 34 - OKST 16
vs BAY(8)
Sat, Dec 7, 11:00 AM CST
7. Florida
1135-10-2 FLA 40 - @FSU 17
8. Baylor
1074-11-1 BAY 61 - KU 6
@ OU(6)
Sat, Dec 7, 11:00 AM CST
9. Alabama
995-10-2 ALA 45 - AUB 48
10. Wisconsin
971-10-2 WIS 38 - MINN 17
vs OSU(2)
Sat, Dec 7, 7:00 PM CST
11. Auburn
957-9-3 AUB 48 - @ALA 45
12. Penn State
890-10-2 PSU 27 - @RUTG 6
13. Oregon
799-10-2 ORE 24 - @ORST 10
vs UTAH(5)
Fri, Dec 6, 7:00 PM CST
14. Notre Dame
734-10-2 ND 45 - STAN 24
15. Minnesota
683-10-2 MINN 17 - @WIS 38
16. Memphis
615-11-1 MEM 34 - @CIN 24
vs CIN(21)
Sat, Dec 7, 2:30 PM CST
17. Michigan
603-9-3 MICH 27 - @OSU 56
18. Iowa
537-9-3 IOWA 27 - NEB 24
19. Boise State
463-11-1 BSU 31 - CSU 24
vs HAW
Sat, Dec 7, 3:00 PM CST
20. Appalachian State
288-11-1 APP 48 - TROY 13
vs ULL
Sat, Dec 7, 11:00 AM CST
21. Cincinnati
237-10-2 CIN 24 - MEM 34
@ MEM(16)
Sat, Dec 7, 2:30 PM CST
22. Virginia
231-9-3 UVA 39 - @VT 30
@ CLEM(3)
Sat, Dec 7, 6:30 PM CST
23. Navy
216-9-2 NAVY 56 - HOU 41
vs ARMY
Sat, Dec 14, 2:00 PM CST
24. USC
157-8-4 USC 52 - @UCLA 35
25. Air Force
65-10-2 AFA 20 - @WYO 6
Others with votes :
SMU (50)
Oklahoma State (36)
Kansas State (36)
UCF (6)
Virginia Tech (6)
Iowa State (5)
Arizona State (4)
California (3)
Washington (2)
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12-05-2019, 08:23 PM
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12/6, 7:00 PM CST
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(5) Utah
Utes
11-1
![](https://s.yimg.com/cv/apiv2/default/ncaaf/20181126/70x70/oregon_wbg.png)
(13) Oregon
Ducks
10-2
Odds: UTAH-6
O/U46
TV: ABC
WINNER: Utes
ducks have stumbled, Utes have rumbled. Utes take the PAC 12
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12/7, 11:00 AM CST
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(7) Baylor
Bears
11-1
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(6) Oklahoma
Sooners
11-1
Odds: OU-9
O/U64.5
TV: ABC
WINNER: Bears
rolling the dice Bears can seal the deal and not choke twice in a row
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12/7, 11:00 AM CST
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Louisiana
Ragin' Cajuns
10-2
![](https://s.yimg.com/cv/apiv2/default/ncaaf/20181221/70x70/appalachian_state_wbg.png)
(21) Appalachian State
Mountaineers
11-1
Odds: APP-6
O/U56
TV: ESPN
WINNER: Mountaineers
going all in with Appalachian State to take the cake.
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12/7, 2:30 PM CST
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(20) Cincinnati
Bearcats
10-2
![](https://s.yimg.com/cv/apiv2/default/ncaaf/20181127/70x70/memphis_wbg.png)
(17) Memphis
Tigers
11-1
Odds: MEM-9.5
O/U57.5
TV: ABC
WINNER: Memphis
it's hard to beat a good team twice in a row but i liked the way the Tigers pulled away last time
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12/7, 3:00 PM CST
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(4) Georgia
Bulldogs
11-1
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(2) LSU
Tigers
12-0
Odds: LSU-7
O/U55
TV: CBS
WINNER: Coach Growl and Mikey
going all in with destiny and Coach Growl. is this the making of a title run? we shall see.
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12/7, 3:00 PM CST
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Hawaii
Rainbow Warriors
9-4
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(19) Boise State
Broncos
11-1
Odds: BSU-13.5
O/U64.5
TV: ESPN
WINNER: Boise Smurfs
Hawaii has turned their program around but the Smurfs are the better team.
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12/7, 6:30 PM CST
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(23) Virginia
Cavaliers
9-3
![](https://s.yimg.com/cv/apiv2/default/ncaaf/20181214/70x70/Clemson_wbgs.png)
(3) Clemson
Tigers
12-0
Odds: CLEM-28.5
O/U57
TV: ABC
WINNER: Dabo Tigers
Clemson begins it's quest to repeat here. can they do it?
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12/7, 7:00 PM CST
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(1) Ohio State
Buckeyes
12-0
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(8) Wisconsin
Badgers
10-2
Odds: OSU-15
O/U56.5
TV: Fox
WINNER: Brutus Buckeye
Whiskey killed da Gophers last week butt this is Brutus Buckeye.
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12-06-2019, 06:09 AM
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I don't think UGA has enough fire power to go with LSU's revamped offense, so, I'll go with LSU.
Wisconsin is not going to beat OSU with just a stud running back, so I will go with OSU (I am ssuming there are no more Watts on Wisconsin playing DE.)
Clemson, that's not even worth discussing. The ACC has become a joke now.
Boise State - I'll never bet against them and their aweseome/obnoxious blue field ever again.
Big 12 - I don't give a shit about either team. Neither one of them should be in the playoffs and I don't know why the talking media heads even discuss it.
Because of Tony Pollard for the Cowboys, I take Memphis. Because of Travis Kelce for the Chiefs, I take Cincy. Does my logic remotely make any fucking sense to anyone about this game? Of course not because it does not even make any sense to me. I just want to watch a good game
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12-06-2019, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Lucas McCain
I don't think UGA has enough fire power to go with LSU's revamped offense, so, I'll go with LSU.
Wisconsin is not going to beat OSU with just a stud running back, so I will go with OSU (I am ssuming there are no more Watts on Wisconsin playing DE.)
Clemson, that's not even worth discussing. The ACC has become a joke now.
Boise State - I'll never bet against them and their aweseome/obnoxious blue field ever again.
Big 12 - I don't give a shit about either team. Neither one of them should be in the playoffs and I don't know why the talking media heads even discuss it.
Because of Tony Pollard for the Cowboys, I take Memphis. Because of Travis Kelce for the Chiefs, I take Cincy. Does my logic remotely make any fucking sense to anyone about this game? Of course not because it does not even make any sense to me. I just want to watch a good game ![Smile](https://cdn-w.eccie.net/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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LSU and Ohio State are the two top teams as i see it now. Clemson and the ACC, well ignore Clemson at your own risk. they are the defending champ. the ACC's overall strength doesn't mean Clemson can't win the title again. i think you have to go all the way back to Nebraska in the poll era for a repeat champ. no one as done it yet in either the BCS or playoff format.
many people still remember that Fiesta Bowl against Oklahoma when the Smurfs won on some great plays, that hook and ladder, the Statue of Liberty play. being a Longhorns fan i enjoyed that immensely. Stoops didn't make any excuses post game, i'll give him that. when asked about Boise's "trick" plays, Stoops said "we knew about them, they executed them".
i'm picking Baylor simply as a bet against ZerOU. i may regret that. lol. Baylor had ZerOU on the ropes then choked. if they play like the first half for the whole game they can beat ZerOU.
if i was betting i'd take ZerOU. they may end up mauling the Bears.
the Memphis vs. Cincy game might be the most intriguing game of the day. they just played last week. Memphis pulled away as i predicted. can they do it again?
if as expected the three undefeated teams win out, LSU, Ohio State and Clemson, probably Utah gets in assuming they beat Oregon. that leaves a one loss team out, either Baylor or ZerOU. there will be an 8 team format eventually, probably within the next 5 years or so. it looks like the format would be the conference champ of the power 5 and 3 at-large. the best independent probably ND and/or a group of 5 team. also possibly a one loss Power 5 team.
if i had to pick the title game now, i'd pick LSU vs. Ohio State. very old school .. the Big 10 vs. the SEC.
one thing is clear, if there had been a playoff format in the past, probably half the "voted" winners would have lost. that would shake up quite a few school's trophy cases!
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12-08-2019, 12:31 PM
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12/6, 7:00 PM CST
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(5) Utah
Utes
11-1
![](https://s.yimg.com/cv/apiv2/default/ncaaf/20181126/70x70/oregon_wbg.png)
(13) Oregon
Ducks
10-2
Odds: UTAH-6
O/U46
TV: ABC
WINNER: Utes
ducks have stumbled, Utes have rumbled. Utes take the PAC 12
Final
![](https://s.yimg.com/cv/apiv2/default/ncaaf/20181121/70x70/utah_wbgs.png)
(5) Utah
Utes
15
![](https://s.yimg.com/cv/apiv2/default/ncaaf/20181126/70x70/oregon_wbg.png)
(13) Oregon
Ducks
37
i thought the Utes were ready. guess not. by winning the Ducks eliminate the PAC 12 from the Playoffs.
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12/7, 11:00 AM CST
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(7) Baylor
Bears
11-1
![](https://s.yimg.com/cv/apiv2/default/ncaaf/20181214/70x70/Oklahoma_wbg.png)
(6) Oklahoma
Sooners
11-1
Odds: OU-9
O/U64.5
TV: ABC
WINNER: Bears
rolling the dice Bears can seal the deal and not choke twice in a row
Final OT
![](https://s.yimg.com/cv/apiv2/default/ncaaf/20181204/70x70/baylor_wbg.png)
(7) Baylor
Bears
23
![](https://s.yimg.com/cv/apiv2/default/ncaaf/20181214/70x70/Oklahoma_wbg.png)
(6) Oklahoma
Sooners
30
Bears played well enough with their backup QB's to win. ZerOU gets in the Big Dance
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12/7, 11:00 AM CST
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Louisiana
Ragin' Cajuns
10-2
![](https://s.yimg.com/cv/apiv2/default/ncaaf/20181221/70x70/appalachian_state_wbg.png)
(21) Appalachian State
Mountaineers
11-1
Odds: APP-6
O/U56
TV: ESPN
WINNER: Mountaineers
going all in with Appalachian State to take the cake.
Final
![](https://s.yimg.com/cv/apiv2/default/ncaaf/20181205/70x70/la_lafayette_wbg.png)
Louisiana
Ragin' Cajuns
38
![](https://s.yimg.com/cv/apiv2/default/ncaaf/20181221/70x70/appalachian_state_wbg.png)
(21) Appalachian State
Mountaineers
45
lots of offense. Mountaineers take it. who will they play on New Year's?
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12/7, 2:30 PM CST
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(20) Cincinnati
Bearcats
10-2
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(17) Memphis
Tigers
11-1
Odds: MEM-9.5
O/U57.5
TV: ABC
WINNER: Memphis
it's hard to beat a good team twice in a row but i liked the way the Tigers pulled away last time
Final
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(20) Cincinnati
Bearcats
24
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(17) Memphis
Tigers
29
Memphis beats Cindy twice in row, loses their coach to FSU. is that a Win-Lose??
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12/7, 3:00 PM CST
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(4) Georgia
Bulldogs
11-1
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(2) LSU
Tigers
12-0
Odds: LSU-7
O/U55
TV: CBS
WINNER: Coach Growl and Mikey
going all in with destiny and Coach Growl. is this the making of a title run? we shall see.
Final
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(4) Georgia
Bulldogs
10
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(2) LSU
Tigers
37
LSU takes out UGA. the most impressive win of the day. LSU made it look easy.
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12/7, 3:00 PM CST
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Hawaii
Rainbow Warriors
9-4
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(19) Boise State
Broncos
11-1
Odds: BSU-13.5
O/U64.5
TV: ESPN
WINNER: Boise Smurfs
Hawaii has turned their program around but the Smurfs are the better team.
Final
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Hawaii
Rainbow Warriors
10
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(19) Boise State
Broncos
31
Smurfs roll over Hawaii. Smurfies will get a good bowl vs. a Power 5 team.
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12/7, 6:30 PM CST
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(23) Virginia
Cavaliers
9-3
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(3) Clemson
Tigers
12-0
Odds: CLEM-28.5
O/U57
TV: ABC
WINNER: Dabo Tigers
Clemson begins it's quest to repeat here. can they do it?
Final
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(23) Virginia
Cavaliers
17
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(3) Clemson
Tigers
62
a beat down from the start. Tigers are primed for a repeat run.
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12/7, 7:00 PM CST
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(1) Ohio State
Buckeyes
12-0
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(8) Wisconsin
Badgers
10-2
Odds: OSU-15
O/U56.5
TV: Fox
WINNER: Brutus Buckeye
Whiskey killed da Gophers last week butt this is Brutus Buckeye.
Final
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(1) Ohio State
Buckeyes
34
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(8) Wisconsin
Badgers
21
Whiskey smacks Brutus in the face. Brutus smacks them back. is Brutus tough enough??
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This year there was little doubt who would be the 4 in the playoffs! Just the ranking of the top 2 seeds lsu and osu. Its a very big deal this year, not just for the prestige!
Neither lsu or osu really wanted to play Clemson in the opening round! The reaction of the players during the selection show earlier showed a sigh of relief in lsu!
Both lsu and osu had the resume to be number 1.
In the end it should be lsu and osu in the championship game! But nobody really wanted to draw Clemson! For good reason....
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Originally Posted by winn dixie
This year there was little doubt who would be the 4 in the playoffs! Just the ranking of the top 2 seeds lsu and osu. Its a very big deal this year, not just for the prestige!
Neither lsu or osu really wanted to play Clemson in the opening round! The reaction of the players during the selection show earlier showed a sigh of relief in lsu!
Both lsu and osu had the resume to be number 1.
In the end it should be lsu and osu in the championship game! But nobody really wanted to draw Clemson! For good reason....
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I agree. Clemson didn’t look great early in the season. But they have speed everywhere and their QB has won it already. I like them to win it this year too.
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Originally Posted by winn dixie
This year there was little doubt who would be the 4 in the playoffs! Just the ranking of the top 2 seeds lsu and osu. Its a very big deal this year, not just for the prestige!
Neither lsu or osu really wanted to play Clemson in the opening round! The reaction of the players during the selection show earlier showed a sigh of relief in lsu!
Both lsu and osu had the resume to be number 1.
In the end it should be lsu and osu in the championship game! But nobody really wanted to draw Clemson! For good reason....
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i'd say LSU as the number 1 seed got the better match up for them. ZerOU has improved its defense but they are still outside the top 40 in points allowed. LSU has the better defense by far, capable of shutting down ZerOU.
Ohio State, given they drew Clemson might benefit from getting smacked in the mouth by Whiskey because they responded and took Whiskey out of the game in the 2nd half. that might be the difference maker in a close fight with Clemson.
if i had to call it today ... and i am ..
LSU wins easy over ZerOU. Ohio State and Clemson go down to the wire in a dogfight. edge to Brutus Buckeye.
i'll wait to see how those games play out for making a pick on a possible LSU vs. Ohio State match up.
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I agree. Clemson didn’t look great early in the season. But they have speed everywhere and their QB has won it already. I like them to win it this year too.
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yep. Clemson wasn't really impressive early, while still winning most of their games easily but then there is the UNC game where the Mackster nearly beat them. Clemson has upped their game as the season went along. i think Lawrence fell victim to not quite the sophomore slump but he tried too hard for big plays early and was turning the ball over too much. you can do that against Syracuse and still win. try that against LSU or Ohio State and you likely lose. i think Dabo settled Lawrence down by running the ball more and giving him quicker, shorter reads on passes.
i just gave Ohio State the edge by the slightest of margins over Clemson because they responded when Whiskey punched them in the mouth. had them on their heels down 21-7 to open the 2nd half then suddenly it's 21-17 and Ohio State pulled away and didn't let Whiskey get back in it. while i may change my mind before i make my Bowl picks, i'm giving Brutus Buckeye the edge over Clemson because of the Whiskey game and how they responded. it might have been better for Clemson if Virginia had more fight in them but as a 3 loss team they were clearly the lessor of the other teams, Baylor who nearly beat ZerOU with their backs QB's, Whiskey who mauled Minnesota to get to the title game and looked like they were gonna do it again .. for 30 minutes lol and UGA. LSU smacked UGA which tells you how good they really are. while Clemson easily destroyed Virginia as expected a stronger opponent as a test might have served them better.
i expect LSU to win easy. Clemson vs. Ohio State might be a classic and set up the winner to go toe to toe with LSU.
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I agree. Clemson didn’t look great early in the season. But they have speed everywhere and their QB has won it already. I like them to win it this year too.
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Wouldnt surprise me at all.
Dabo already has 'em feeling disrespected.
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12-08-2019, 07:15 PM
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Wouldnt surprise me at all.
Dabo already has 'em feeling disrespected.
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LSU clearly played the toughest schedule. They deserve to be #1. Clemson and Ohio State plated against weaker completion. Especially Clemson. But Clemson has been to the dance and won. This will be the first appearance by OSU with their current coach and QB. Talent wise, I give Clemson the edge over OSU. Same with coaching. Wisconsin isnt all that good. Probably lose in the Rose bowl.
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