CEO cuts own pay, raises workers' salaries

[WombRaider]

What's stopping others from following suit? Greed.

http://crooksandliars.com/2015/04/ce...ll-workers-pay

[DSK]

Yes, if he did that without massive stock options or equity, and doesn't have millions socked away, I'd be impressed. His heart is in the right place, though. I like a guy running a company treating his employees right. We've been doing that at Nau's Pharmacy just outside of the Clarksville Historical District, in the city limits of Austin, for many years.

[WombRaider]

There's nothing in capitalism that says the ceo has to make 300 times the salary of his average employee.

[SinsOfTheFlesh]

Originally Posted by WombRaider

There's nothing in capitalism that says the ceo has to make 300 times the salary of his average employee.

And there is also nothing in capitalism that says the CEO has to run a charity either.

You want to cut CEO pay and raise worker salaries - go start a business and run it yourself.

I take it you believe in raising the minimum wage? When was the last time you drove through a fast food joint and tipped the person who made change for you? What's that? Did I hear you say you've never done that? Then STFU about raising the minimum wage if you don't have the balls to pay for it out of your own pocket.

FYI - I did exactly that this afternoon, as I always do when I go through the drive thru. It puts a smile on someone's face, and for at least one hour of her day, the lady who served me today earned what she deserves.

[IIFFOFRDB]

[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by SinsOfTheFlesh

And there is also nothing in capitalism that says the CEO has to run a charity either.

You want to cut CEO pay and raise worker salaries - go start a business and run it yourself.

I take it you believe in raising the minimum wage? When was the last time you drove through a fast food joint and tipped the person who made change for you? What's that? Did I hear you say you've never done that? Then STFU about raising the minimum wage if you don't have the balls to pay for it out of your own pocket.

FYI - I did exactly that this afternoon, as I always do when I go through the drive thru. It puts a smile on someone's face, and for at least one hour of her day, the lady who served me today earned what she deserves.

And herein lies the rub. In your mind it's one of two things; CEO fatcats, as we currently have, or a CEO who is running a charity. Is there no middle ground?

And on minimum wage, wow. You assigned me a viewpoint and then based on that assumed view, told me to shut the fuck up. Nice. If they raised the prices $1 or $2 in order to pay the employees more, it won't stop me from doing what I was going to do anyway. Your mistake is assuming they don't make enough money to raise minimum wage NOW.

[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

Atlas Shrugged. It's all starting to make sense to me now. You never progressed past your junior high love affair with Ayn Rand. Poor people are just parasites to you. I'm starting to get it.

[JD Barleycorn]

Originally Posted by WombRaider

And herein lies the rub. In your mind it's one of two things; CEO fatcats, as we currently have, or a CEO who is running a charity. Is there no middle ground?

And on minimum wage, wow. You assigned me a viewpoint and then based on that assumed view, told me to shut the fuck up. Nice. If they raised the prices $1 or $2 in order to pay the employees more, it won't stop me from doing what I was going to do anyway. Your mistake is assuming they don't make enough money to raise minimum wage NOW.

Your use of the word fatcats indicates that you are a bigot, an ignorant bigot. What do you think the minimum wage should be? (this should be good)

[JD Barleycorn]

Originally Posted by WombRaider

Atlas Shrugged. It's all starting to make sense to me now. You never progressed past your junior high love affair with Ayn Rand. Poor people are just parasites to you. I'm starting to get it.

If that is what you think then you've never read Ayn Rand, if you did then you don't understand it.

[DSK]

Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

Bravo!!

[slingblade]

I have two comments about this thread.

1. Why would a customer feel like they should tip the employee as an responsibility because the employer is paying them too little?

I tip above and beyond so I have no problem tipping, and I cut my customers a deal if I know they are on a tight budget. I do my fair share of helping out.

2. Conservatives are pretty vain in my opinion to think that Rand was supporting their cause. The point was Big Corporations controlled the government and used the power to fleece any competition.

Those that Seceded were of a Democratic nature if you asked me. Her concept of Capitalism is not what we have going on today with the likes of the Koch brothers.

[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

If that is what you think then you've never read Ayn Rand, if you did then you don't understand it.

If you've read it and that's NOT what you think, you're a fucking moron. Her philosophy is quite clear and has been well recognized at this point. She was also quite the racist. She spit on Indians, Arabs and just about anyone else that wasn't white.

What kind of world would it be if everyone lived by this creed:

"Man—every man—is an end in himself, not a means to the ends of others; he must live for his own sake, neither sacrificing himself to others nor sacrificing others to himself; he must work for his rational self-interest, with the achievement of his own happiness as the highest moral purpose of his life"

Sounds like one selfish, fucked-up world to me.

[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by slingblade

I have two comments about this thread.

1. Why would a customer feel like they should tip the employee as an responsibility because the employer is paying them too little?

I tip above and beyond so I have no problem tipping, and I cut my customers a deal if I know they are on a tight budget. I do my fair share of helping out.

2. Conservatives are pretty vain in my opinion to think that Rand was supporting their cause. The point was Big Corporations controlled the government and used the power to fleece any competition.

Those that Seceded were of a Democratic nature if you asked me. Her concept of Capitalism is not what we have going on today with the likes of the Koch brothers.

Conservatives like her attitude toward the poor and unfortunate. It gives them moral certitude in acting with disdain toward certain peoples. Ultimately, she championed selfishness, if you boil down her drivel to its essence. What do you expect. She was Russian. She came from communism and then swung SO far to the other side you could almost see communism again.

[shanm]

Originally Posted by SinsOfTheFlesh

I take it you believe in raising the minimum wage? When was the last time you drove through a fast food joint and tipped the person who made change for you? What's that? Did I hear you say you've never done that? Then STFU about raising the minimum wage if you don't have the balls to pay for it out of your own pocket.

FYI - I did exactly that this afternoon, as I always do when I go through the drive thru. It puts a smile on someone's face, and for at least one hour of her day, the lady who served me today earned what she deserves.

You tipped a fast food worker....would you like the presidential medal of freedom to go along with your fries?
Christ, if theres one thing that ticks me off here is the balls out gloating on unverifiable "acts of charity". I'm sure that make you feel all Jesus-sy inside.

You don't understand the rationale behind the idea of tipping. The reason why it is given in service oriented professions is because it depends on the type and quality of service. It is NOT given simply for doing your job. If the FF worker handed me my food, took my money and gave me my change, he/she simply did nothing over and above what his job entailed. Should I be "tipping" him for not spitting in my food? Most of the time the people at the drive-thru aren't even the ones preparing or checking your food.
A waitress, on the other hand, deserves the tip because she went over and above getting me my food quicker, making pleasant conversation, making sure my ice tea cup was full etc etc. If that "nuance" doesn't get through your thick head "then may (your) god help you"(that is fast becoming my favorite response to you).

[SinsOfTheFlesh]

Originally Posted by WombRaider

And herein lies the rub. In your mind it's one of two things; CEO fatcats, as we currently have, or a CEO who is running a charity. Is there no middle ground?

And on minimum wage, wow. You assigned me a viewpoint and then based on that assumed view, told me to shut the fuck up. Nice. If they raised the prices $1 or $2 in order to pay the employees more, it won't stop me from doing what I was going to do anyway. Your mistake is assuming they don't make enough money to raise minimum wage NOW.

I didn't assign you a view point. I simply point out the hypocrisy of arguing for higher wages, while expecting business owners to bear the burden of paying those higher wages.

If you want workers to earn more then PAY THEM MORE yourself.

Originally Posted by shanm

You tipped a fast food worker....would you like the presidential medal of freedom to go along with your fries?
Christ, if theres one thing that ticks me off here is the balls out gloating on unverifiable "acts of charity". I'm sure that make you feel all Jesus-sy inside.

You don't understand the rationale behind the idea of tipping. The reason why it is given in service oriented professions is because it depends on the type and quality of service. It is NOT given simply for doing your job. If the FF worker handed me my food, took my money and gave me my change, he/she simply did nothing over and above what his job entailed. Should I be "tipping" him for not spitting in my food? Most of the time the people at the drive-thru aren't even the ones preparing or checking your food.
A waitress, on the other hand, deserves the tip because she went over and above getting me my food quicker, making pleasant conversation, making sure my ice tea cup was full etc etc. If that "nuance" doesn't get through your thick head "then may (your) god help you"(that is fast becoming my favorite response to you).

You really have an incredible talent for reading stuff that just ain't there.

First off, I'm an atheist. So you can give up on the Jesus stuff which you keep mentioning in post after post. That dog don't hunt.

Secondly, the only reason I mentioned tipping the fast food worker was to let the air out of Womb's tires before he had a chance to come back and say how easy it is to tell someone else to be charitable, but another thing to be charitable yourself. You see, unlike your typical liberal, I'm not a hypocrite. I don't demand that the gov't make charitable contributions on my behalf. Womb here got all hot and bothered about a CEO who cut his own salary in order to pay his workers more (good for the CEO by the way). But my point is that charity begins at home. If you and Womb want to see workers earning a fair wage THEN PAY FOR IT. Stop asking the government to do for you what you are not willing to do yourself.

Ghandi said it best - be the change you want to see in the world.