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Old 09-28-2023, 02:02 PM   #1
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Default Scientists ‘shocked’ and ‘alarmed’ at what’s in the mRNA shots

In particular, McKernan was alarmed to find the presence of an SV40 promoter in the Pfizer vaccine vials. This is a sequence that is, ‘…used to drive DNA into the nucleus, especially in gene therapies,’ McKernan explains. This is something that regulatory agencies around the world have specifically said is not possible with the mRNA vaccines.

Ooops the science must have changed again.

But I bet a lot of folks are happy with their gene therapy shots.. lol.

Ready to line up for more?
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Old 09-29-2023, 06:38 AM   #2
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I got three shots when they were first available because of my age.

I will not get another.
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Old 09-29-2023, 09:51 AM   #3
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https://healthfeedback.org/authors/kevin-mckernan/

Claim that COVID-19 mRNA vaccines contain DNA contaminants based on study of vials of “unknown provenance”; no evidence COVID-19 mRNA vaccines can alter DNA in people

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DNA in COVID mRNA shots “may have the ability to alter the human genome”; “SV40 has been linked to cancer in humans”; “Regulatory Agencies Knew There Was a Contamination Problem”

SOURCE: Kevin McKernan, Sucharit Bhakdi, The Epoch Times

Published: 23 Jun 2023

VERDICT: MISLEADING

I will continue to get Covid vaccines as recommended by my physician.
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Old 09-29-2023, 09:58 AM   #4
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https://healthfeedback.org/authors/kevin-mckernan/

Claim that COVID-19 mRNA vaccines contain DNA contaminants based on study of vials of “unknown provenance”; no evidence COVID-19 mRNA vaccines can alter DNA in people

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DNA in COVID mRNA shots “may have the ability to alter the human genome”; “SV40 has been linked to cancer in humans”; “Regulatory Agencies Knew There Was a Contamination Problem”

SOURCE: Kevin McKernan, Sucharit Bhakdi, The Epoch Times

Published: 23 Jun 2023

VERDICT: MISLEADING

I will continue to get Covid vaccines as recommended by my physician.

Why? Nothing says they work or help. In fact, this years shot is already outdated by the new variant.
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Old 09-29-2023, 10:10 AM   #5
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Why? Nothing says they work or help. In fact, this years shot is already outdated by the new variant.
It has evolved into the same realm as “flu shots”

If you get the latest shot, you might get sick, and you might not.

If you do take the shot, it might keep you from getting really sick if you do get sick, or it might not.

Sound about right?
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It has evolved into the same realm as “flu shots”

If you get the latest shot, you might get sick, and you might not.

If you do take the shot, it might keep you from getting really sick if you do get sick, or it might not.

Sound about right?

Actually the flu shot is more reliable than the covid shot. The flu doesn't seem to keep muting, but rotates between a few types. Some years they guess better than others what strain it will be.


Only thing obvious is that people don't understand immune systems and the too many snake oil salesman are out to make money on this lack of understanding, including too many in the medical profession.
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Old 09-29-2023, 12:17 PM   #7
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It has evolved into the same realm as “flu shots”

If you get the latest shot, you might get sick, and you might not.

If you do take the shot, it might keep you from getting really sick if you do get sick, or it might not.

Sound about right?
Sounds right but the fact remains, even today with a greatly decreased incidence of Covid infections, that getting a Covid shot protects a person against death or hospitalzation more than not getting a shot.

"Since COVID-19 vaccines became widely available in the spring of 2021, there has been a wide gap in deaths between the unvaccinated and vaccinated. Toward the end of 2022, though, data showed that most deaths from COVID-19 were among those who are vaccinated. But that doesn’t mean COVID-19 vaccines and boosters are ineffective. It’s quite the opposite."


https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-...oosters-matter
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Old 09-29-2023, 02:40 PM   #8
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It has evolved into the same realm as “flu shots”

If you get the latest shot, you might get sick, and you might not.

If you do take the shot, it might keep you from getting really sick if you do get sick, or it might not.

Sound about right?
That's nothing but a sales pitch initiated by the Pharmaceutical Companies that manufacture them. Getting mildly sick after a vaccination doesn't equate to getting severely sick if you wouldn't have been vaccinated. I stopped taking vaccines of all kinds in 2011.
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Old 09-29-2023, 02:50 PM   #9
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Sounds right but the fact remains, even today with a greatly decreased incidence of Covid infections, that getting a Covid shot protects a person against death or hospitalzation more than not getting a shot.

"Since COVID-19 vaccines became widely available in the spring of 2021, there has been a wide gap in deaths between the unvaccinated and vaccinated. Toward the end of 2022, though, data showed that most deaths from COVID-19 were among those who are vaccinated. But that doesn’t mean COVID-19 vaccines and boosters are ineffective. It’s quite the opposite."


https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-...oosters-matter

Propaganda to make money
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Old 09-29-2023, 03:28 PM   #10
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Actually the flu shot is more reliable than the covid shot. The flu doesn't seem to keep muting, but rotates between a few types. Some years they guess better than others what strain it will be.


Only thing obvious is that people don't understand immune systems and the too many snake oil salesman are out to make money on this lack of understanding, including too many in the medical profession.
https://health.clevelandclinic.org/flu-strains/
Sorry, but according to the cleveland clinic- a great source for medical information; the Flu- like the majority of viruses, continue to mutate all the time. Flu shots try to stay ahead based on testing and seeing what strains are gaining in both testing, and in virulent mutation, but the shot is and always has been a best guess-timate. As it mutates, it might mimick a prior strain, but it's regenerating into new strains all the time.


You could claim that it's snake oil, or for $ or not, but flu shots save more elderly and young people every year than a majority of other treatments. And as a prophylactic care against catching a heavy or deadly case of the flu, it typically helps with making symptoms better than a non immunized person. Of course you don't have to take it- and you can just as easily not wear a condom fucking a ho. Immune response aside. The old saying of "Pay your money and take your chances", but flu shots are statistically a safe bet, and proven safe by YEARS of them being provided.
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Old 09-29-2023, 05:34 PM   #11
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Why? Nothing says they work or help. In fact, this years shot is already outdated by the new variant.
There are plenty of people who suffered less from Covid after getting vax and a good many of us who never got it at all. Agree with the flu shot comparisons which is accurate enough and as the technology develops mRNA could be a pathway to great things.

For me much rather try and minimize the effects should I get covid than suffer the long term aftereffects so many around me had endured. Most of them were otherwise healthy and active before and their struggle to fully recover is ongoing and unpleasant
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Old 09-29-2023, 06:20 PM   #12
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There are plenty of people who suffered less from Covid after getting vax and a good many of us who never got it at all. Agree with the flu shot comparisons which is accurate enough and as the technology develops mRNA could be a pathway to great things.

For me much rather try and minimize the effects should I get covid than suffer the long term aftereffects so many around me had endured. Most of them were otherwise healthy and active before and their struggle to fully recover is ongoing and unpleasant
I find it rather strange that it is only anti-vaxxers who know people who have suffered ill effects after getting the Covid vaccine. I know no one in that category.
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I find it rather strange that it is only anti-vaxxers who know people who have suffered ill effects after getting the Covid vaccine. I know no one in that category.
That might be a bad Omen.
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It antifreeze
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Sorry, but according to the cleveland clinic- a great source for medical information; the Flu- like the majority of viruses, continue to mutate all the time. Flu shots try to stay ahead based on testing and seeing what strains are gaining in both testing, and in virulent mutation, but the shot is and always has been a best guess-timate. As it mutates, it might mimick a prior strain, but it's regenerating into new strains all the time.


You could claim that it's snake oil, or for $ or not, but flu shots save more elderly and young people every year than a majority of other treatments. And as a prophylactic care against catching a heavy or deadly case of the flu, it typically helps with making symptoms better than a non immunized person. Of course you don't have to take it- and you can just as easily not wear a condom fucking a ho. Immune response aside. The old saying of "Pay your money and take your chances", but flu shots are statistically a safe bet, and proven safe by YEARS of them being provided.
Flu Shots can't save lives. In fact there is no way to prove that. One thing is for certain there is no symptom or disease that was ever caused by a Drug deficiency. The Medical profession uses Drugs to manage symptoms. With every symptom and with every disease there is a underlying cause. You can't prevent a disease that you don't have by use of drugs and vaccines for the most part are drugs. The Medical profession is under the paradigm there is a drug for every symptom and treatment for every disease which would include a drug. The underlying cause is still there which most often is linked to a Mineral or Nutritional deficiency.
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