So France is Heading Back Left

[Jackie S]

http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news...esidential-bid

Not that they were ever much to the right, but I guess austerity just isn't in the French vocabulary.

[JD Barleycorn]

The vicious allure of the left. They set up a situation and to correct it causes pain. The people run back to the left to get rid of the necessary pain which doesn't solve their problems.

Kind of like an enabler who encourages you to eat to excess until you become dangerously obese. You go to a doctor who puts you on a strict diet and finds you a sadistic personal trainer. You start to make progress but it hurts. Along comes the enabler again who tells you that you look great and lets go out for tequila shots and nachos. You end up right back where you started.

[IIFFOFRDB]

75 % income tax on the rich. Thats going to work out real good for them FROGS.

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

The vicious allure of the left. They set up a situation and to correct it causes pain. The people run back to the left to get rid of the necessary pain which doesn't solve their problems.

Kind of like an enabler who encourages you to eat to excess until you become dangerously obese. You go to a doctor who puts you on a strict diet and finds you a sadistic personal trainer. You start to make progress but it hurts. Along comes the enabler again who tells you that you look great and lets go out for tequila shots and nachos. You end up right back where you started.

I like your analogy. Or, it's like a drug addict who has ruined his life with drugs. He's lost his family, his job and his health; he's lying in the gutter and he decides the answer to his problem is to take more drugs.

America is in a very similar situation with our debt. If we don't reign in the spending we're finished. Half the country seems to think that ramping up government spending is the best way to solve our debt problem. I think it was Einstein that said insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome. By that definition, the socialists are insane.

[Fast Gunn]

People keep repeating that old story about insanity without really thinking it through.

The fact is that sometimes doing exactly the same thing does yield different results!

Einstein was a smart man, but he didn't really know everything!

. . . Dealing with women is always dealing with mystery!

[JD Barleycorn]

If you're getting different results then you're not doing the same thing.

[Fast Gunn]

You may do exactly the same things, but still get totally different results for an infinite number of reasons.

Invisible external factors can affect results.

The planets may not be aligned.

. . . The bitch may not be in the mood!

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Fast Gunn

. . . The bitch may not be in the mood!

Good one!

You are correct FG, th right thinks lower taxes are always the solution. That does not work when you have lowered the tax rate to low! It only works when taxes are to high.

The funny thing is , half the country does not pay Federal taxes and the righties bitch about that , yet they are the one's screaming 'Lower Taxes!"

Off with their heads , I say

[Jackie S]

France elected a Conservative Government 5 years ago for a reason. Their economy was in the toilet, heading for where Greece is now.

The problem was, and still is, they want to work 30 hours a week, have 8 weeks of vacation, have everything paid for by the Government, and still enjoy an upper middle class lifestyle.

Somebody has to pay for all of it sooner or later. Obviously,

[Seedy]

Fuck the French. Lazy sob's, just a bunch of libs that want something for nothing. Fuck em, when they come groveling to us to bail them out. Let them eat cake...no let them eat a big shit sandwich.

[Whirlaway]

The anti-austerity politicans have their hands tied; they have spent all they can borrow and Germany is fed up with them............unless they go the route of Latin America - Bolivia, Venezuela and Argentina, and start nationalizing whole sectors of their economy !

Then the European coalition falls apart.

[gnadfly]

Don't forget retiring with full benefits at 62. Jeez, you'd think they were in Wisconsin.

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

Don't forget retiring with full benefits at 62. Jeez, you'd think they were in Wisconsin.

Actually the French retirement age is 60. They're proposing to raise it to 62; that's their idea of austerity. There were massive protest demonstrations caused by the proposed raise.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_614426.html

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2010/...ing-over-what/

[cptjohnstone]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

Actually the French retirement age is 60. They're proposing to raise it to 62; that's their idea of austerity. There were massive protest demonstrations caused by the proposed raise.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_614426.html

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2010/...ing-over-what/

and I think they get 3 months paid vacations

[I B Hankering]

The most horrific aspect of the recent French election is that the public will be seeing less of Carla Sarkozy.