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Old 12-01-2012, 10:16 AM   #1
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Default Whos giving them a bad day?!!!

Who is giving my Chiefs a bad day!!


http://www.tmz.com/2012/12/01/kc-chi...self-shooting/

Anyone have any updated info on which one it was?
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:46 AM   #2
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:49 AM   #3
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yea..bad news...
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:59 AM   #4
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Oh man, this is terrible news. What a selfish way to go out.
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Old 12-01-2012, 12:11 PM   #5
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That is so sad!

Now his child is an orphan!
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Old 12-01-2012, 12:18 PM   #6
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I totally agree with SOF.

Now if someone has a serious & painful health issue...i.e. Althimeziers, I would totally respect that person's right to end their life with dignity. Or something like a married couple who after decades of being together, one partner dies...and the other partner wishes to join their soulmate.

But stuff like this is plain of chicken shit stuff. All it does, is leave the love ones with sadness and guilt.

Apparently, this was this man's way of dealing with reality....I say good riddence, but have nothing but compassion for those left to pick up the pieces

And why would the NFL even consider changing anything for Sunday's game...or any type of game day acknowlegement to this coward???
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Old 12-01-2012, 12:29 PM   #7
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His GF and baby mama was so young and beautiful. I read her FB page...she seemed very happy. If youre going to be a coward and off yourself, then do it.... but dont take others down with you.
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Old 12-01-2012, 08:30 PM   #8
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And why would the NFL even consider changing anything for Sunday's game...or any type of game day acknowlegement to this coward???
Because the Chiefs organization lost a close friend, and they should be entitled to bereavement time. I think the game should be canceled. It's not like this will decide if go to the super bowl or something. Take the forfeit, and allow them to spend the day with their families or however they see fit. I really doubt their heads will be in the game, considering they just lost a good friend. I think a moment of silence is all that's needed, as a sign of respect to the friends and families of those involved.
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Because the Chiefs organization lost a close friend, and they should be entitled to bereavement time. I think the game should be canceled. It's not like this will decide if go to the super bowl or something. Take the forfeit, and allow them to spend the day with their families or however they see fit. I really doubt their heads will be in the game, considering they just lost a good friend. I think a moment of silence is all that's needed, as a sign of respect to the friends and families of those involved.
Not to mention how traumatic it must had been for the 2 that witnessed the suicide..
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Old 12-02-2012, 12:14 AM   #10
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Because the Chiefs organization lost a close friend, and they should be entitled to bereavement time. I think the game should be canceled. It's not like this will decide if go to the super bowl or something. Take the forfeit, and allow them to spend the day with their families or however they see fit. I really doubt their heads will be in the game, considering they just lost a good friend. I think a moment of silence is all that's needed, as a sign of respect to the friends and families of those involved.
First of all, he murdered his so and left their child an orphan. I don't know but he might not be the only one involved in a murder or suicide yesterday and I don't think anything get's cancelled when some poor nobody dies..

Besides, like it or not the NFL ain't gonna let an incident like this disrupt a bizillion dollar business, the only way they would cancel anything is if they cancel ALL the games, like they did after 9-11
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Old 12-02-2012, 02:37 AM   #11
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First of all, he murdered his so and left their child an orphan. I don't know but he might not be the only one involved in a murder or suicide yesterday and I don't think anything get's cancelled when some poor nobody dies..
Regardless of your feelings, toward someone that you don't even know, some of us have lost a friend. His actions this morning, and how he left this world, is not the issue. The fact that lives were lost is. There are several people that lost a friend or two today. It's that simple. I never said he was the only one involved. Quite the contrary. If one of your best friends passed away unexpectedly, would you feel like going to work the next morning? You act like he was estranged. This was not the case. It came as a complete shock to those that knew him/them. I didn't realize that you knew him too. Oh wait...

I think the while situation is terrible, but for you to sit here and pretend like you have the right to judge others, especially when you have no fucking clue what the guy was actually like, is beyond ignorant. Sometimes people snap. It happens to the best of us.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:38 AM   #12
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Regardless of your feelings, toward someone that you don't even know, some of us have lost a friend. His actions this morning, and how he left this world, is not the issue. The fact that lives were lost is. There are several people that lost a friend or two today. It's that simple. I never said he was the only one involved. Quite the contrary. If one of your best friends passed away unexpectedly, would you feel like going to work the next morning? You act like he was estranged. This was not the case. It came as a complete shock to those that knew him/them. I didn't realize that you knew him too. Oh wait...

I think the while situation is terrible, but for you to sit here and pretend like you have the right to judge others, especially when you have no fucking clue what the guy was actually like, is beyond ignorant. Sometimes people snap. It happens to the best of us.
I didn't know him but believe it or not I have lost a few friends along the way. Ask youself this, if he would have murdered his girlfriend and not turned the gun on himself and ended up in jail would you or anyone else think twice about cancelling a game? Of course not, so why does the fact that he committed suicide change anything. It's a terrible tragedy but it's not the only tragedy and unfortunatly life does go on.. I have not judged him in any way, in fact I told a friend that I heard him on a radio interview a year or so ago and was struck by how together the guy seemed. Saying that he committed a murder is not an opinion or judgement, it's a fact that I merely repeated. It's called reality..Sorry you lost a friend and I too have been down that road..but I was in no way being disrespectful...think about it.
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Outstanding post MW. Like he said, if this individual had not shot himself...he would be sitting in jail, awaiting formal murder charges. That is not passing judgement, but would be a simple fact. He would be demonized by the community for his actions. How tragic it will be for his baby to someday learn of her father's actions.

I am sorry for anyone, who is even remotely involved in this situation...very tragic.

But I continue to feel, the guy took the chicken shit option...and is now awaiting his final judgement, in the hereafter.

If Arrowhead wants a silence of moment...do it for the young American troops who died thousands of miles away from their family, serving our Country.

Do it for some faceless victim who died senselessly from a violent crime, in our very own city.

But as far as this individual...he deserves nothing more than the final judgement that awaits him.
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Old 12-02-2012, 12:08 PM   #14
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Big +'s to booth these posts. I will find it very insulting if they give a moment of silence to a man who just commited murder. No matter what his GF did, she didn't deserve to be murdered. JMHO

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Outstanding post MW. Like he said, if this individual had not shot himself...he would be sitting in jail, awaiting formal murder charges. That is not passing judgement, but would be a simple fact. He would be demonized by the community for his actions. How tragic it will be for his baby to someday learn of her father's actions.

I am sorry for anyone, who is even remotely involved in this situation...very tragic.

But I continue to feel, the guy took the chicken shit option...and is now awaiting his final judgement, in the hereafter.

If Arrowhead wants a silence of moment...do it for the young American troops who died thousands of miles away from their family, serving our Country.

Do it for some faceless victim who died senselessly from a violent crime, in our very own city.

But as far as this individual...he deserves nothing more than the final judgement that awaits him.
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I didn't know him but believe it or not I have lost a few friends along the way. Ask youself this, if he would have murdered his girlfriend and not turned the gun on himself and ended up in jail would you or anyone else think twice about cancelling a game? Of course not, so why does the fact that he committed suicide change anything. It's a terrible tragedy but it's not the only tragedy and unfortunatly life does go on.. I have not judged him in any way, in fact I told a friend that I heard him on a radio interview a year or so ago and was struck by how together the guy seemed. Saying that he committed a murder is not an opinion or judgement, it's a fact that I merely repeated. It's called reality..Sorry you lost a friend and I too have been down that road..but I was in no way being disrespectful...think about it.
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Old 12-02-2012, 02:29 PM   #15
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Exactly what Mal and VK said. Couldn't have said it better.
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