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01-22-2014, 10:29 PM
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So this isn't squirting???
We had this discussion on a review but I didn't want to hijack the thread more than we had so I brought this discussion over here. Just so everyone is clear, according to medical science, this is NOT squirting but rather peeing for show or she can't control her bladder when she cums hard. This sucks....LOL. But I figured we could have this discussion here....So this girl is squirting but she's squirting piss...
Longhorn1, thanks for fucking things up for me and everyone here, man...you must be a lot of fun at parties. Lmfao
Staff Edit: Sorry but the image was not within the guidelines, CZ.
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01-23-2014, 04:42 AM
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Sorry to ruin your fun, single1, but remember - the truth shall set you free…of urine.
While there's been debate in the literature for a long time recently results have consistently supported Skene's gland as the homolog of the prostate in women. The location of the gland, the histology, the developmental history of the tissue, and chemical analysis of the secretions all support the conclusion that Skene's gland is the female prostate.
Skene's gland, or the female prostate, don't open into the urethra but rather from tiny glands on either side of the urethra called paraurethral ducts. Because they are so small and so close to the urethra, it's easy to miss them - hence the confusion over where the ejaculate comes from.
Above you show an image of "gushing". The study that convinced me there was an actual difference between ejaculating and gushing (if you want to use those words), actually collected "squirts", measured the volume of each, and then chemically analyzed them. The squirts of low volume (3 - 5 mL - 1/2 to 1 teaspoon) contained prostate-specific antigen but not urea or creatine, while the squirts of high volume (up to 126 mL - half a cup) contained urea and creatine but not PSA. Previously, I had assumed large squirts (gushes) were just a mixture of ejaculate and urine. However, the data seems to suggest that's not the case.
While there's clearly a difference between female ejaculate and gushing, I'm not convinced we understand the "gushes" fully. They are certainly urine but it does appear that they may be more dilute than average (or the study participants were just very well hydrated).
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01-23-2014, 06:15 AM
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Wow this is like finding out Santa Claus doesn't exist.....I don't believe it...lol
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01-23-2014, 07:35 AM
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01-23-2014, 08:53 AM
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For those that have the need to know more:
Wikipedia to the rescue:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation
Good thing, I went up for air on the one girl that I made squirt with my tongue.
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01-23-2014, 10:14 AM
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The primary purpose of the prostate is to act as a two-way valve and control the flow of both urine and semen through the urethra. This is clearly NOT the purpose of the para-urethral glands in females. So, even thought both may have originated from a common source in utero, they serve different functions after full development. Fact is, there is no physiological purpose for orgasm and ejaculation in females WHATSOEVER. In other words, females don't need them for reproduction. So, when women "claim" they can cum like men, we have to take it at face value. I consider "squirting" or "gushing"--whatever you want to call it--total bullshit.
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01-23-2014, 11:13 AM
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Since it's my review that I think has inspired this discussion, I thought I'd chime in. As to physiology I know very little but I will share my experiences with what I think you're calling squirting and gushing!
A few girls I've been with exhibit quite a bit more vaginal fluid than average and thus during cunnilingus or copulation become extremely wet, which aids in intercourse! These might be what you would term a squirter! With a few of these, my SB in particular, there is a quite a release but not beyond maybe a teaspoon or two. Hazel956 comes to mind, along with MistyCC
Other girls seem to excrete a thick cum, not unlike what we have. Just recently, Alpha210 wiped some of this off my mustache put it between her fingers and moved them apart to demonstrate its viscosity.
As to the gushers. Once in the VIP of the Palace one of the dancers demonstrated this phenomenon! She was stimulated by another dancer, who knew the triggers. Shortly, a gush of clear liquid gushed from her! I was stunned! Continued stimulation brought on 3 or 4 more gushes! I even held my hand in front of her vagina to determine if that was the source, or her pee hole - as near as I could determine it came from her vagina! I went back later, to see if I detected any odor, as the smell of urine is one that almost makes me throw up! There was no odor whatsoever, that day or the subsequent days!
As to my most recent experience! Having a girl gush in my face, not only was there no odor whatever but it was seemed to come from her vagina and appeared to be perfectly clear! Again, as in the previous case there was no lingering odor! Had this been urine, with its pungent ammonia stink I most assuredly would have snapped on the spot and spewed upchuck all over the room! LOL
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01-23-2014, 12:57 PM
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Most fresh, unconcentrated urine has little odor, color and taste--especially from young, healthy females. I should know, I have plenty of golden shower experience.
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01-23-2014, 01:39 PM
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Upandcumer, that's simply not true. The prostate, in both males and females, is a secretory organ and functions, in males, in producing and excreting the sugars and proteins transferred with sperm during ejaculation. These secretions function to modify the female reproductive tract, and female behavior, to maximize the probability that the male's sperm will fertilize the female's egg.
The prostate does not control the flow of urine, that's the bladders job. The prostate can impact urine flow simply because it surrounds the urethra and damage to the prostate (due to enlargement, surgery, or radiation) can similarly damage the urethra and bladder. The muscles in the prostate are used only to expel prostate secretions along with the sperm during ejaculation.
It is true that we don't know the function of the female prostate (Skene's gland), but it is homologous to the male prostate and does produce prostate specific proteins (what else it produces we don't know).
I'm glad you know for a "fact" that there is no purpose for the female orgasm, because no one else has yet come to that conclusion. There is much debate among scientists regarding the possible functions of the female orgasm, and while non-functional expression of a male trait is one hypothesis, no evidence overwhelmingly supports one of these hypotheses over the other.
Luigi, more on your post later. The thick lubricant from within the vaginal canal is not the same as female ejaculate...one happens during intercourse for lubrication and the other happens during orgasm only and is not a lubricant.
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01-23-2014, 02:13 PM
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Well all this has convinced me to stand clear when a gusher says "oh my God I'm cuming"
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01-23-2014, 02:26 PM
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Damn, who knew some of you fuckers could put that many coherent sentences together at one time. Fucking 'cut and paste masters'. LOL
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01-23-2014, 03:11 PM
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Dat be all 'riginal compaziton...compozition...ah, fuck it - all 'riginal writin', bitch!
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01-23-2014, 08:06 PM
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Dat be all 'riginal compaziton...compozition...ah, fuck it - all 'riginal writin', bitch!
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Dat der be sum funy sheot?
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01-23-2014, 09:49 PM
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LOL, God bless Wikipedia!
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01-26-2014, 02:05 PM
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Louigi, I promised to get back to the topics you brought up. You're right, the fluids you mention are of different origins. The "squirt" or ejaculate from the female prostate (Skene's gland) can truly squirt away from the woman's body. This is a low volume secretion - up to a teaspoon - and occurs during orgasm. As to the lack of odor in gushes - depending on the volume it may have been female ejaculate or it may have been urine. Not much is known about the urine released in these situations but the little that is known suggests that it is more dilute than normal (perhaps because women drink in excess to ensure the ability to "gush" when they need to).
When a woman gets wet, it is due to the increase in normal vaginal secretions when she is aroused. These secretions are not glandular in origin but result from increased blood flow essentially squeezing moisture from the cells. When she becomes extremely wet, it can also be due to female ejaculate (after orgasm) that has flowed into the vaginal opening - if for example your face or body were blocking the ejaculate, it would naturally flow down and pool in the vaginal opening.
The thick white substance you refer to can be these normal vaginal secretions (they change with her cycle and include dead cells), but is most likely the mucus exuded from Bartholin's glands (the homolog of Cowper's gland in males - both responsible for lubrication) that lubricates the lips and opening of the vagina. While the paraurethral ducts (where female ejaculation comes from) are located ventral (above) and to the sides of the vagina (but dorsal and to the sides of the urethra), Bartholin's glands open dorsal (below) and to the sides of the vaginal opening. If you notice, you accumulate more of this thick white secretion on the underside of your cock when in a face-to-face position and on the upper side of your cock when in k9 or rcg.
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