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Old 07-23-2012, 06:24 AM   #1
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What is the most negative campaign ad you've seen so far for the Presidential election?

There is going to be a lot more mudslinging this time around than usual and it has just begun!

I heard one this morning where you hear Mitt Romney singing badly off-key in the background with scenes of empty offices panning in the fore ground.

It ends simply with the words,

. . . "Mitt Romney, he's not the solution, he's the problem"

Ouch!

(The curious thing is I did not hear President Obama saying "I approved this message".

. . . Aren't they required by law to state that?)
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Old 07-23-2012, 10:55 AM   #2
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Not if it is a super pac commercial
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Old 07-23-2012, 11:13 AM   #3
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Bush 43 started the I approve this message bs ...

he decided to

lmao
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Old 07-23-2012, 01:14 PM   #4
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Actually, I think the requirement was part of some campaign reform awhile back.
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Old 07-23-2012, 01:20 PM   #5
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Actually, I think the requirement was part of some campaign reform awhile back.

43 was the first time I remember hearing it
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Old 07-23-2012, 01:23 PM   #6
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Actually, I think the requirement was part of some campaign reform awhile back.

yup

The "Stand By Your Ad" provision (SBYA) of the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act (BCRA, also known as "McCain-Feingold"), enacted in 2002, that requires candidates in the United States for federal political office, as well as interest groups and political parties supporting or opposing a candidate, to include in political advertisements on television and radio "a statement by the candidate that identifies the candidate and states that the candidate has approved the communication." The provision was intended to force political candidates running any campaign for office in the United States to associate themselves with their television and radio advertising, thereby discouraging them from making controversial claims or attack ads.[1][2][3]
In American politics, "I approve this message" (sometimes in the past tense, also with "authorize" in place of "approve" or with "ad" instead of "message") is a phrase said by candidates for federal office to comply with this provision.
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Old 07-23-2012, 03:58 PM   #7
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The election between Thomas Jefferson and John Adams, where Jefferson said Adams was a "monkey" and called his wife a whore.
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Old 07-23-2012, 05:46 PM   #8
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I find it highly ironic, and idiotic, that the most negative person on this whole board started this thread.....

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Old 07-23-2012, 06:08 PM   #9
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Exclamation Dirty Campaigning

You apparently are correct about that TAE.

I thought the leaders of a bygone era were more civil, but apparently that is not the case at all.

. . . Campaigning was dirty even back then!


THESE ARE THE GOOD OLD DAYS
What We Call "Dirty Campaigning" Was Once Much Worse
by Dan Sanders
Presidential campaigns are a lot nicer today than they used to be. What respectable person today would think of calling one of the candidates for the highest office in the land a carbuncled-faced old drunkard? Or a howling atheist? Or a pickpocket, thief, traitor, lecher, syphilitic, gorilla, crook, anarchist, murderer? Yet such charges were regular features of American presidential contests in the 19th century.
-- "Presidential Campaigns," by Paul F. Boller, Jr.
One of the most fondly held delusions of modern presidential politics is that campaigns get dirtier with every election. Pundits and the public snarl at the deluge of "attack ads" flying between one side and another; a ravenous press gleefully lays bare the private lives of public men; the ill-will demeans the office and wears out the citizenry months before the November denouement. In every campaign, someone brings up the noble politics of past centuries. Oh for the days of Lincoln and Douglas, they will moan, for the days of great men debating the great issues with dignity and eloquence.


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Old 07-23-2012, 06:29 PM   #10
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You apparently are correct about that TAE.

I thought the leaders of a bygone era were more civil, but apparently that is not the case at all.

. . . Campaigning was dirty even back then!
And don't forget the Hamilton-Burr duel. Hamilton's journalistic defamation of Burr's character during the 1804 New York gubernatorial race ultimately led Burr to shoot Hamilton. Do pass your new-found knowledge to WellEndowed the next time you have drinks.

Here's an account of another notoriously uncivil political incident: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preston_Brooks.
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Old 07-23-2012, 07:01 PM   #11
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The election between Thomas Jefferson and John Adams, where Jefferson said Adams was a "monkey" and called his wife a whore.
It was worse than that. Modern day politics pales in comparison to the old days.

From CNN.Com:

Jefferson's camp accused President Adams of having a "hideous hermaphroditical character, which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman."

In return, Adams' men called Vice President Jefferson "a mean-spirited, low-lived fellow, the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father."

http://articles.cnn.com/2008-08-22/l...n?_s=PM:LIVING
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Old 07-23-2012, 08:20 PM   #12
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Awwwwwww the good ole days...
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Awwwwwww the good ole days...
I'd love to see that today...the ex-gangsta would be kicking on some Romney ass, lol
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I find it highly ironic, and idiotic, that the most negative person on this whole board started this thread.....

??? - I didn't start this thread, did I? I'm sure I would have remembered that.

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He said negative COG, not senile
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