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View Poll Results: Your thoughts on pimps?
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Pimps are parasitic, abusive scum, deserving of nothing but contempt
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Pimps provide valuable services and are the unsung heroes of the hobby, bringing people together
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There are good pimps and bad pimps, some are just misunderstood
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Pimps are just middlemen, made unnceccesary by the internet
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Pimpin' is easy
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Pimpin' ain't easy
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11-18-2017, 08:24 AM
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The Pimpin' Poll
Pimps. Many hate them. Others tolerate them as long as they stay out of the way. Perhaps some even admire them. Let's find out what the community thinks. This poll is anonymous and allows multiple selections.
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11-18-2017, 11:49 AM
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Join Date: Oct 31, 2010
Location: Mabelvale AR
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pimps are scum suckers
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11-18-2017, 05:54 PM
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Damn, not much love for the pimps up in here. It may be a PR problem. They need a mascot, something everyone loves.
Maybe that will help.
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11-18-2017, 06:57 PM
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BANNED
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Scum
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11-18-2017, 11:19 PM
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I would distinguish between pimps and agents, though a simplistic definition might lump them together. A true pimp is a pure parasite, while an agent is a middleman that a professional indy willing to provide for her own prospecting, screening, and accommodations, might get by without while others might find those services worth the cost.
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11-19-2017, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by trekker
I would distinguish between pimps and agents, though a simplistic definition might lump them together. A true pimp is a pure parasite, while an agent is a middleman that a professional indy willing to provide for her own prospecting, screening, and accommodations, might get by without while others might find those services worth the cost.
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It's a fair point. I think largely the definition comes down to who has control.
Does she have exclusive authority over who her clients are, when she works, where she works, and what services are offered?
Is he* involved only in the administrative and promotional activities or does he have some involvement in the appointments themselves? (e.g., monitoring them in some way, "security", etc.)
Would there be harassment if she decided to do without those services or could she "fire" him at any time of her choosing?
What happens to the money? Does she control it and give him a commission, or does he control it and give her an "allowance".
Is he physically and/or mentally abusive of her?
* I'm using the pronouns 'he' and 'him' for simplicity. The agent or pimp could be a woman.
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11-19-2017, 12:32 PM
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Join Date: Sep 30, 2017
Location: North Little Rock, Arkansas
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Interesting survey--- just the word "pimp" has a lot of negativity surrounding it....Spanky can say you have some interesting thoughts!!! My major concern about "pimp or agent" is "NO" physical or mental abuse can be tolerated!!
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11-19-2017, 08:35 PM
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From what I have been exposed to in the brief 5 years I have been in the hobby is that they are just scum that take half or more of a girls earnings. I think they keep girls "supplied" "with what they need". As with everything there are probably good things as well as bad things with a pimp
However rarely do I hear the good!!!
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11-19-2017, 11:39 PM
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Join Date: Jan 7, 2010
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I think the issue is some of these girls have no means to obtain credit to purchase cars, homes, etc. So they hook up with a "pimp" to provide them the transportation, place to stay, their choice of "pain killers" and will provide some sense of someone that "really" cares about them, maybe even providing them a few kids along the way to later abandon.
Middle man my ass.
PS: if they are no harm just be upfront and advertise you are pimped or have a "manager", "agent" lol agent, surely no one will care if its no big deal.
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11-20-2017, 12:10 AM
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I'm about as new to the hobby as 1 can be but I can still say for fact,If I'm giving someone the $ I'm making it's by choice & chances are it's to cover something such as splitting a location,that said I don't have any personal experience or knowledge to form an opinion that isn't based on stereotyped rumors/word of others mouths. I have no intentions in finding out personally either,that'll be the day I quit
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11-20-2017, 05:26 AM
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Join Date: Oct 31, 2010
Location: Mabelvale AR
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Eons ago way before I started using eccie or p411 I used an agency (truth be known 1 unsavory "lady" several)1st provider I met was on sissap She used to work for this female & called her to say I was ok Found she asked for 60% of fee Same anciy sent 4-5 piss poor providers in a row after 1st
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11-20-2017, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BK
I think the issue is some of these girls have no means to obtain credit to purchase cars, homes, etc. So they hook up with a "pimp" to provide them the transportation, place to stay, their choice of "pain killers" and will provide some sense of someone that "really" cares about them, maybe even providing them a few kids along the way to later abandon.
Middle man my ass.
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You said it perfectly!!
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11-20-2017, 07:25 PM
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Join Date: Dec 8, 2015
Location: All over the ECCIE badlands
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Hey Spank, good job here on the poll subject matter and choices.
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11-20-2017, 07:26 PM
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Hey Spank, good job here on the poll subject matter and choices.
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Thanks Doc!
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11-20-2017, 09:57 PM
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Join Date: Feb 8, 2010
Location: Central Ark
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Taxation is theft,
whether it be a paycheck or taxing that ass. If slavery is taxation at 100% -minus room and board, scraps to eat and a beating-then taxation at 90%, 65% or 50% is just degrees of said slavery...but with better accommodations and eats. Fuck that, it ain't 1864.
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