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Old 08-20-2019, 09:29 AM   #1
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Default With ALL the left saying Trump getting beat in the polls...

Still 15 months out and the polls are changing and not in the lefts favor.
These polls also reflect how those polled "silently agree"with Trumps specific policies...HOW IN THE FUCK CAN THAT BE!! Oh the inhumanity of it ALL

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Perhaps the most interesting results concerned “silent” Trump supporters. Nearly half of those surveyed, 49% (22% strongly and 27% somewhat strongly), agreed with the following statement:
Even though I tell people I do not approve of Donald Trump, I personally agree with him on certain issues.
https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-v...rump-policies/

P.S. Please SPEED breakdown the poll for us!!
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Old 08-20-2019, 09:32 AM   #2
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Still 15 months out and the polls are changing and not in the lefts favor.
These polls also reflect how those polled "silently agree"with Trump policies...HOW IN THE FUCK CAN THAT BE!! Oh the inhumanity of it ALL
https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-v...rump-policies/
that tells me Trump is so personally abhorrent to many people, that they would vote for anybody else.
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Old 08-20-2019, 09:41 AM   #3
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that tells me Trump is so personally abhorrent to many people, that they would vote for anybody else.
You and logic...
You sound a lot like SPEED explaining the sudden and unexplained loss of Hellery and the coronation that never happend.
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Old 08-20-2019, 09:45 AM   #4
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You and logic...
give me your explanation.. mine seems perfectly logical.

you guys REFUSE to concede that anything Trump does might be wrong. get out of that CULT.. why do you fight so hard for him? he's just another Politician with flaws.
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Old 08-20-2019, 09:47 AM   #5
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give me your explanation.. mine seems perfectly logical.

you guys REFUSE to concede that anything Trump does might be wrong. get out of that CULT.. why do you fight so hard for him? he's just another Politician with flaws.
Where did I say that Trump has done no wrong...
There you go again...assuming, TDS can do that to you CHANG.
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Old 08-20-2019, 09:52 AM   #6
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Where did I say that Trump has done no wrong...
There you go again...assuming, TDS can do that to you CHANG.
I have never seen you post that Trump was wrong about anything.
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Old 08-20-2019, 09:54 AM   #7
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Still 15 months out and the polls are changing and not in the lefts favor.
These polls also reflect how those polled "silently agree"with Trumps specific policies...HOW IN THE FUCK CAN THAT BE!! Oh the inhumanity of it ALL

From the article:

Perhaps the most interesting results concerned “silent” Trump supporters. Nearly half of those surveyed, 49% (22% strongly and 27% somewhat strongly), agreed with the following statement:
Even though I tell people I do not approve of Donald Trump, I personally agree with him on certain issues.
https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-v...rump-policies/

P.S. Please SPEED breakdown the poll for us!!
Bambino already cited this poll in another thread. Pay attention and I will be happy to break it down for you.

The poll was conducted by Zogby, which has one of the lowest ratings of any polling company according to FiveThirtyEight, rankings which are based on how accurate the polling company has been in the past.

When reached by phone last week, Cliff Zukin, a political science professor and polling expert at Rutgers University, suggests that journalists should generally be wary of any Zogby interactive poll.

“The Zogby stuff, on scientific grounds, is quite questionable,” says Zukin. “Online, Internet, opt-in polling, where people volunteer to be respondents, doesn’t really have a basis in scientific validity. There are two kinds of samples in the world. There are probability samples, and there are non-probability samples.”

The Zogby interactive polls, says Zukin, clearly fall into the latter camp. “With probability samples, when everybody has a known chance of being selected, you can make pretty valid inferences about the population from which it is drawn,” says Zukin. “You can’t do that at all with self-selected surveys. That’s a problem.”

Another problem with Internet-based polling, says Zukin, is that, in general, Web and email-based surveys tend to overvalue the opinions of young people. A group that is notoriously lousy at showing up to actually vote.


https://archives.cjr.org/politics/ho...zogbyjourn.php


The Worst Pollster in the World Strikes Again

Zogby, however, also conducts Internet-based polls. These polls are conducted among users who volunteer to participate in them, first by signing up at the Zogby website (you can do so yourself here) and then by responding to an e-mail solicitation. These Internet polls, to the extent they rely on voluntary participation, violate the most basic precept of survey research, which is that of the random sample. And as you might infer, they obtain absolutely terrible results.


https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...strikes-again/

So feel free to put faith in a Zogby survey. As I've said several times, it is rather dangerous to put too much emphasis on a single survey. But to put emphasis on an unreliable polling company which violates basic sampling theory is beyond stupid.
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Old 08-20-2019, 09:54 AM   #8
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Trump's personality is not the Lubed up handshake typical politico. Agreed.

his policies and the way he wishes to take this nation I agree with far more than the Angry squawking Socialist DPST's led by biden, Warren, and sanders.


i will vote for policy over persona - Not that the DPST clowns running for potus are better in the persona area.
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Old 08-20-2019, 09:59 AM   #9
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i will vote for policy over persona - Not that the DPST clowns running for potus are better in the persona area.
I guess that is the position of the Right-Wing Churches and Ministers, and why they refuse to say anything negative about Trump's often un-Christ-like behavior. fucking sell outs.
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Old 08-20-2019, 10:00 AM   #10
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Bambino already cited this poll in another thread. Pay attention and I will be happy to break it down for you.

The poll was conducted by Zogby, which has one of the lowest ratings of any polling company according to FiveThirtyEight, rankings which are based on how accurate the polling company has been in the past.

When reached by phone last week, Cliff Zukin, a political science professor and polling expert at Rutgers University, suggests that journalists should generally be wary of any Zogby interactive poll.

“The Zogby stuff, on scientific grounds, is quite questionable,” says Zukin. “Online, Internet, opt-in polling, where people volunteer to be respondents, doesn’t really have a basis in scientific validity. There are two kinds of samples in the world. There are probability samples, and there are non-probability samples.”

The Zogby interactive polls, says Zukin, clearly fall into the latter camp. “With probability samples, when everybody has a known chance of being selected, you can make pretty valid inferences about the population from which it is drawn,” says Zukin. “You can’t do that at all with self-selected surveys. That’s a problem.”

Another problem with Internet-based polling, says Zukin, is that, in general, Web and email-based surveys tend to overvalue the opinions of young people. A group that is notoriously lousy at showing up to actually vote.


https://archives.cjr.org/politics/ho...zogbyjourn.php


The Worst Pollster in the World Strikes Again

Zogby, however, also conducts Internet-based polls. These polls are conducted among users who volunteer to participate in them, first by signing up at the Zogby website (you can do so yourself here) and then by responding to an e-mail solicitation. These Internet polls, to the extent they rely on voluntary participation, violate the most basic precept of survey research, which is that of the random sample. And as you might infer, they obtain absolutely terrible results.


https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...strikes-again/

So feel free to put faith in a Zogby survey. As I've said several times, it is rather dangerous to put too much emphasis on a single survey. But to put emphasis on an unreliable polling company which violates basic sampling theory is beyond stupid.
What poll did you put your faith with in 2016...because you were SOOOOO sure Hellery had it in the bag...just waiting for the Jan. 2017 coronation. You do remember SPEED??
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Old 08-20-2019, 10:13 AM   #12
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Trump's personality is not the Lubed up handshake typical politico. Agreed.

his policies and the way he wishes to take this nation I agree with far more than the Angry squawking Socialist DPST's led by biden, Warren, and sanders.


i will vote for policy over persona - Not that the DPST clowns running for potus are better in the persona area.
SPEED votes personality not ideology.
To him this is a popularity contest.
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Old 08-20-2019, 10:16 AM   #13
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I guess that is the position of the Right-Wing Churches and Ministers, and why they refuse to say anything negative about Trump's often un-Christ-like behavior. fucking sell outs.
Who is the sell-out for bigger more intrusive Gumment CHANG??
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Old 08-20-2019, 10:21 AM   #14
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Who is the sell-out for bigger more intrusive Gumment CHANG??
the Socialist Left.

see, I can agree with one of your points, you refuse to acknowledge anything the right does that is negative.
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