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Old 02-20-2019, 10:45 AM   #1
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MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia will respond to any U.S. deployment of short or intermediate-range nuclear weapons in Europe by targeting not only the countries where they are stationed, but the United States itself, President Vladimir Putin said on Wednesday.

In his toughest remarks yet on a potential new arms race, Putin said Russia was not seeking confrontation and would not take the first step to deploy missiles in response to Washington's decision this month to quit a landmark Cold War-era arms control treaty.
But he said that Russia's reaction to any deployment would be resolute and that U.S. policy-makers, some of whom he said were obsessed with U.S. exceptionalism, should calculate the risks before taking any steps.
"It's their right to think how they want. But can they count? I'm sure they can. Let them count the speed and the range of the weapons systems we are developing," Putin told Russia's political elite to strong applause.
"Russia will be forced to create and deploy types of weapons which can be used not only in respect of those territories from which the direct threat to us originates, but also in respect of those territories where the centers of decision-making are located,” he said.
MISSILES IN EUROPE
Alleging Russian violations, Washington said this month it was suspending its obligations under the 1987 Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces Treaty (INF) and starting the process of quitting it, untying its hands to develop new missiles.
The pact banned either side from stationing short and intermediate-range, land-based missiles in Europe and its demise raises the prospect of a new arms race between Washington and Moscow, which denies flouting the treaty.
Russia denies violating the treaty. Putin responded to the U.S. move by saying Russia would mirror the U.S. moves by suspending its own obligations and quitting the pact.
But Putin, who has sometimes used bellicose rhetoric to talk up Russia's standoff with the West and to rally Russians round the flag, did not up the ante.
He did not announce new missile deployments, said money for new systems must come from existing budget funds and declared that Moscow would not deploy new land-based missiles in Europe or elsewhere unless Washington did so first.
On Wednesday, he made clear however that he was ready, reluctantly, to escalate if the United States escalated and that Russia was continuing to actively develop weapons and missile systems to ensure it was well prepared for such an eventuality.
He said any U.S. move to place new missiles in Europe would leave Moscow with no choice but to respond because it would drastically cut the time it took U.S. missiles to reach Russia, something that would pose a direct threat.
He said Russia wanted good ties with the United States, but was ready with its defensive response if necessary.
“We know how to do this and we will implement these plans immediately, as soon as the corresponding threats to us become a reality.”


Does Putin forget both sides have nuclear "Boomer" submarines with multi-warhead missiles targeted on all major cities in each country?
He knows - He is KGB and using the media.

Just as he skillfully annexed Crimea.


Ok - DPST's - come defend Your Putin Idol!!!!
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Old 02-20-2019, 10:52 AM   #2
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I assumed that Russia has nuclear missiles pointed at quite a few American Cities already.

I also assume we have nuclear missles pointed at major Russian cities.
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Old 02-20-2019, 01:23 PM   #3
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I assume it stupid as fuck to get into another arms race unless your base loves the vast industrial military complex.
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Old 02-20-2019, 01:29 PM   #4
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Who’s gonna be the one to ramp this up? Putin? Trump? Maybe Bolton.
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Old 02-20-2019, 03:11 PM   #5
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I assumed that Russia has nuclear missiles pointed at quite a few American Cities already.

I also assume we have nuclear missles pointed at major Russian cities.
I'm not a big nuclear war fan but...

was watching some documentaries about Russian missiles and their space program. They had many more rocket mishaps than they admit. Even after they admitted them several times.

Based on their submarine and airplane production and maintenance track records I don't think qualifies as sabre rattling.
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Old 02-20-2019, 03:18 PM   #6
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Russian technology often has been flawed in development.

Once they get things right - like the T-34 tank or Soyuz system - they tend to make very sturdy, reliable technology.

The West and its' intelligence agencies have often over-estimated Russian achievement.

Putin is a cagy player- and KGB - I would not trust him to do anything not in his best interest (including Russia)
No one wants nuclear war - and a new Cold War with expenditures in the billions - neither side needs.
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Old 02-20-2019, 06:59 PM   #7
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Who’s gonna be the one to ramp this up? Putin? Trump? Maybe Bolton.
Aren't Putin and Trump tight buds??
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Old 02-20-2019, 07:27 PM   #8
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Russian technology often has been flawed in development.

Once they get things right - like the T-34 tank or Soyuz system - they tend to make very sturdy, reliable technology.

The West and its' intelligence agencies have often over-estimated Russian achievement.

Putin is a cagy player- and KGB - I would not trust him to do anything not in his best interest (including Russia)
No one wants nuclear war - and a new Cold War with expenditures in the billions - neither side needs.
Why doesn't Trump just ask Putin? When Trump asked Putin if he interfered in the election Putin said no. Even though 17 US intelligence agencies said they did, Trump said he believed Vlad. Its a shame you don't back up the USA oeb11.
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Old 02-20-2019, 07:38 PM   #9
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Support our country - Sounds like the constructionist wants a cold war and Government contracts to fill his pockets!
Like Adam Schiff's evidence - show me that another cold war is good for anyone in the world- except the military-inductrial complex Eisenhower warned against.

Amazing the lack of thought process seen in these threads.
Thank you YR/TM/SC
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Old 02-20-2019, 07:44 PM   #10
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Who’s gonna be the one to ramp this up? Putin? Trump? Maybe Bolton.
But but but I thought Trump and Putin were pals??????
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Old 02-20-2019, 10:58 PM   #11
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But but but I thought Trump and Putin were pals??????
Remember the panick the Progressives expressed that Trump was going to start a nuclear war with Russia the first couple of months in office.



It's even worse than how the Dems portrayed W as a stupid klutz then in the same breath anointed genius attributes to him.



good times...
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Old 02-20-2019, 11:44 PM   #12
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if anyone deserves any blame regarding those mid-range missiles, blame falls on China!
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Yeah--- 60s here we come again,,,, (MIC) at it
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