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07-11-2012, 01:33 PM
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WHERE DID ALL THE SWING STATE VOTERS GO ????
Apparently, there has been a big shift in voter registrations in the swing states - AWAY from Democrats and to the Independent and Republican parties.........
Dems bleeding voters in swing states
Interesting study by Bloomberg that shows the Democrats lost around 480,000 members in swing states since 2008 while indpendents increased by about 440,000.
The GOP picked up 38,000 members.The collective total of independents grew by about 443,000 in Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire and North Carolina since the 2008 election, according to data compiled by Bloomberg from state election officials.
During the same time, Democrats saw a net decline of about 480,000 in those six states, while Republicans -- boosted in part by a competitive primary earlier this year -- added roughly 38,000 voters in them, the analysis shows.
"Democrats hit the high-water mark for registration in 2008, so it's natural that they are going to see some drop off," said Michelle Diggles, a senior policy analyst with the Democratic-leaning Third Way research group in Washington who conducted a similar study earlier this year.
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se of independent voters has had a major impact on recent election results.
In 2008, President Barack Obama won 52 percent of the independent vote, according to national exit polls, which was one percentage less than his overall total. Senator John McCain of Arizona, his Republican opponent, collected 44 percent of the independent vote -- 2 points less than his overall total. Independents represented 29 percent of the total electorate that year.
In 2006, independents backed Democrats by an 18-percentage- point margin nationwide in House races, handing the party control of the chamber for the first time in 12 years. In 2010, they backed Republicans over Democrats in House races by a 19- point margin, as Republicans regained the chamber's majority.
Independents are far more centrist than either Democrats or Republicans, but a good number of them lean right more often. They are there for the taking - along with the election - if Romney can tap into the dissatisfaction of those former Dems.
Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...#ixzz20LOimvcg
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07-11-2012, 03:15 PM
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theyre still out there whirlie, Im guessing waiting for the debates to start and see which candidate has the best chance of cashing the checks his mouth is (and has been) writing ....
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07-11-2012, 03:53 PM
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The undecideds typically break for the challenger by 2 to 1. Obama needs to have them wrapped up before the debates, or he will be in trouble.
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07-11-2012, 04:34 PM
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maybe not this go-round.
other than by his own words, mitt still hasnt been challenged
even you didnt know he vetoed legislation that kept jobs at home ...
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07-11-2012, 04:46 PM
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It's always "maybe it will be different this time." It won't be.
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07-11-2012, 04:52 PM
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another prediction ?
last time I checked THIS TIME is already totally different
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07-11-2012, 05:00 PM
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Well, we can count the votes after the election. I think Obama has the advantage at this point, but if he wants to sew it up, he can't wait for the undecideds to break his way at the last minute. If he doesn't get them soon, Romney's chances of winning increase dramatically. I'm not saying Romney will win, but his chances get better every day the undecideds keep Obama under 50% in the polls.
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07-11-2012, 05:11 PM
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IMO its pretty close right now, and if it stays pretty close the debates could (yes I said could, not will) sway 2-5% of the undecided's and make the difference ... either way
if not theres always the fk'n Supreme Court.
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07-11-2012, 08:52 PM
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If they dropped their Democratic party registration it's likely they won't. Be voting for Obama.
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07-11-2012, 09:08 PM
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Do not underestimate either candidate's ability to totally screw things up just in time to lose. This will be a race to the wire.
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07-11-2012, 09:37 PM
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Do not underestimate either candidate's ability to totally screw things up just in time to lose. This will be a race to the wire.
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I do not think so
the money is flowing Romneys way almost 2 to 1
bho is spending like crazy currently and is still behind in the polls
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll: Romney 46%, Obama 45% (has been up to 4 points)
Florida: Romney 46%, Obama 45%
obamacare is favored by 41%
Romney has only attacked obamacare wait until we to the rest of stuff
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07-11-2012, 09:43 PM
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The problem with Obamacare (among many) is that the shit won't really hit the fan until 2014, well after this Presidential election. It was designed that way on purpose. Right now, Obamacare is this ethereal concept in most voters minds that is able to be molded by the politicians. We're being told it will increase access to and improve the quality of health care, when a careful reading of the bill shows just the opposite. But the draconian measures in the bill do not take effect until after the election.
Obama gets to paint rainbows. Romney has to paint devils. Which do you prefer?
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07-12-2012, 04:11 AM
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Nope, it will be a decisive loss for Obama. And the die is cast in voters minds on Obamacaetx
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Hearts and minds wonnt change much on this issue before the elections...voters aren't buying obamas bullshit rainbow promises .....
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Do not underestimate either candidate's ability to totally screw things up just in time to lose. This will be a race to the wire.
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07-12-2012, 06:24 AM
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I'm just reporting the facts. Four months is a long way off but none of my Tea Bag friends will bet me even money that Obama will lose. That action alone speaks louder than their words...
Matching Obama against Romney in each of these key states - no one has won the White House since 1960 without taking at least two of them - shows: - Florida: Obama edges Romney 45 - 41 percent;
- Ohio: Obama over Romney 47 - 38 percent;
- Pennsylvania: Obama tops Romney 45 - 39 percent.
"President Barack Obama has decent margins over Gov. Mitt Romney in Ohio and Pennsylvania and a smaller advantage in Florida. If he can keep those leads in all three of these key swing states through election day he would be virtually assured of re-election," said Peter A. Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.
"Of course the election is more than four months away, which is a lifetime in politics," Brown added.
"The president's overall margin is built on his big lead among women, younger voters and African-Americans. In Florida, on the heels of the president's order that will prevent the deportation of some younger illegal immigrants, he holds a big lead among Hispanic voters.
"The horse race numbers reflect the general view of voters that they like the president better. Obama has a net favorable view among Ohio voters and he is viewed evenly by those in Pennsylvania and Florida, while Romney's favorable/unfavorable ratio is negative in all three states.
"Voters in all three states voice strong support for the president's mini 'Dream Act' immigration order, and they say the president would be better than Romney handling immigration.
"For much of the last year, more voters in these swing states have said Romney would do a better job on the economy. That advantage has largely disappeared, at least for now."
Voters in all three states are mixed on which candidate "would do a better job on the economy," and which candidate "would be better for your personal economic future
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes...ReleaseID=1767
Obama is going to win Ohio, take that to the bank, so all he has to do is pick up FL or Penn. Not only that but he has a way to win the western swing states and lose both Fl and Penn.
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07-12-2012, 07:43 AM
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@ IDKWTF, the only reliable pollster in the business is Rasmussen. He is by far the most accurate and respected. His polling is only of "likely voters" which is always more accurate. I suspect the Quinnipac poll is of registered voters, a less accurate/reliable poll.
Rasmussen has Romney leading in the swing states of Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, Wisconsin and Colorado. Pennsylvania IS NOT a swing state. Every year the Republicans get all happy thinking they have a chance to win Pennsylvania and it always disappoints (at the Presidential level)....you might have well included California in your post......and whenever an incumbent is polling under 50% at this point in the campgain, it is a dire sign !
Check out Rasmussen's most recent polling here:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._tracking_poll
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Matching Obama against Romney in each of these key states - no one has won the White House since 1960 without taking at least two of them - shows: - Florida: Obama edges Romney 45 - 41 percent;
- Ohio: Obama over Romney 47 - 38 percent;
- Pennsylvania: Obama tops Romney 45 - 39 percent.
"President Barack Obama has decent margins over Gov. Mitt Romney in Ohio and Pennsylvania and a smaller advantage in Florida. If he can keep those leads in all three of these key swing states through election day he would be virtually assured of re-election," said Peter A. Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.
"Of course the election is more than four months away, which is a lifetime in politics," Brown added.
"The president's overall margin is built on his big lead among women, younger voters and African-Americans. In Florida, on the heels of the president's order that will prevent the deportation of some younger illegal immigrants, he holds a big lead among Hispanic voters.
"The horse race numbers reflect the general view of voters that they like the president better. Obama has a net favorable view among Ohio voters and he is viewed evenly by those in Pennsylvania and Florida, while Romney's favorable/unfavorable ratio is negative in all three states.
"Voters in all three states voice strong support for the president's mini 'Dream Act' immigration order, and they say the president would be better than Romney handling immigration.
"For much of the last year, more voters in these swing states have said Romney would do a better job on the economy. That advantage has largely disappeared, at least for now."
Voters in all three states are mixed on which candidate "would do a better job on the economy," and which candidate "would be better for your personal economic future
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes...ReleaseID=1767
Obama is going to win Ohio, take that to the bank, so all he has to do is pick up FL or Penn. Not only that but he has a way to win the western swing states and lose both Fl and Penn.
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