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Old 01-08-2013, 01:58 PM   #1
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Default LUBY'S REVISTED.....

A case for self defense. Here what Dr. Susan Gratia had to say, she was at Luby's in 1991...she lobbied in Texas for the CHL, which Bush signed into law in 1995.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=ygZWSUXr8rA#!

And more recent on CNN...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=nm7qgEydGDw
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:59 PM   #2
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revisiting shit is all youve got isnt it?
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:15 PM   #3
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No but it makes no difference what he posts, you all say the same shit to him over and over. I like you CJ but I don't actually read any of the other democrats most of the time.

I'm at a crossroads were I may actually switch my opinions, but the hate and inability to respond with facts or counter what they say with something other than mean ass comments gives me pause. You dems are WAY bigger assholes than the other side.

So basically you have a chance to bring a new believer into your fold but instead of working for truth, you'd rather just say fuck u? Really? Now what part of that would give cause for pause on the other side?

Because of randy and shyster, I'm really trying to see the other side but damn y'all make it fucking hard, and possibly not worth the effort.
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:20 PM   #4
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Lubys was last century, 2 decades ago

maybe when whirlie becomes of some relevence the responses will change ... he laid down the guantlet, so he has to run it.

btw, Im not recruiting either
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The argument is still valid.

Not recruiting for what? The left? Does that mean the left on here truly doesn't care if their posts make any positive difference, as long as they insult properly?

Well that's just about everything I needed to know.
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CJ doesn't support the concept of learning from history....it's too "historical" for him....he has a hard enough time processing the here and now....
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:45 PM   #7
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Is that supposed to be an argument?
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:46 PM   #8
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No but it makes no difference what he posts, you all say the same shit to him over and over. I like you CJ but I don't actually read any of the other democrats most of the time.

I'm at a crossroads were I may actually switch my opinions, but the hate and inability to respond with facts or counter what they say with something other than mean ass comments gives me pause. You dems are WAY bigger assholes than the other side.

So basically you have a chance to bring a new believer into your fold but instead of working for truth, you'd rather just say fuck u? Really? Now what part of that would give cause for pause on the other side?

Because of randy and shyster, I'm really trying to see the other side but damn y'all make it fucking hard, and possibly not worth the effort.
recruiting as in bringing in a new believer ? ... that recruiting.

as a registered independent I could care less. Personally I'd like to see both sides move closer to the middle and work together without the partisan rhetoric and political chest pounding ... not only would the people benefit but the "government" would becom smaller in the interim

but thats just me
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Is that supposed to be an argument?

no, its a FACT
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:07 PM   #10
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A case for self defense. Here what Dr. Susan Gratia had to say, she was at Luby's in 1991...she lobbied in Texas for the CHL, which Bush signed into law in 1995.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=ygZWSUXr8rA#!

And more recent on CNN...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=nm7qgEydGDw
You act as if the whole handgun situation is so cut and dried. It is not. Reasonable people can have very different ideas of what should be done, but the majority of people on here do not wish to be reasonable. They want to make political points. They want to say "My side wins, your side loses."

What do you propose to keep guns out of the hands of future George Hennards? I am expecting you to say "nothing", and make some argument that if Dr Hupp had a gun, everything would have ended happily. I hope that is not your answer for that is far too simplistic. Suppose she did, and she was shot while trying to shoot him. All her gun would do is provide extra ammunition for Hennards.
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A case for self defense. Here what Dr. Susan Gratia had to say, she was at Luby's in 1991...she lobbied in Texas for the CHL, which Bush signed into law in 1995.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=ygZWSUXr8rA#!

And more recent on CNN...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=nm7qgEydGDw
So what is the point you're trying to make with your post? This was a true tragedy and Texas now has a CHL law probably because of it.
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I suspect your "reasonable people" include those who carelessly throw away their liberties and freedoms in exchange for a more secure nanny state.........
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Absolutely; the Texas response was the correct one.....expand the rights of individuals to protect themselves, not regulate those rights away.

Thanks for asking.


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So what is the point you're trying to make with your post? This was a true tragedy and Texas now has a CHL law probably because of it.
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Absolutely; the Texas response was the correct one.....expand the rights of individuals to protect themselves, not regulate those rights away.

Thanks for asking.

Lubys had nothing to do with concealed carry passing .. 100% of the credit goes to Bush, and that in part is why he beat Richards.
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One of the victims; the woman in the clip I posted (Dr. Suzanna Gratia) was instrumental in lobbying Austin to get the CHL legislation approved.......She was the leading activist in the CHL movement in Texas...she went on to the Austin legislature, serving for 5 terms !

Luby's had EVERYTHING to do with Bush signing the CHL legislation.

You don't know what you are talking about......you embarass yourself with most of your own posts.


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