Obama Gives Classified Documents to Hollywood

[CuteOldGuy]

The US Public cannot see these documents, but if you are going to make a film that paints the President in a positive light, you apparently have access to anything you want. I know some of you will disagree, but I think the public should have first right to these documents if they are going to be released for other than national security.

Even if we have to replace this guy with Romney (God forbid), he simply must be replaced.

http://truththeory.com/2012/05/28/ob...opaganda-film/

[Munchmasterman]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

The US Public cannot see these documents, but if you are going to make a film that paints the President in a positive light, you apparently have access to anything you want. I know some of you will disagree, but I think the public should have first right to these documents if they are going to be released for other than national security.

Even if we have to replace this guy with Romney (God forbid), he simply must be replaced.

http://truththeory.com/2012/05/28/ob...opaganda-film/

Yep, this will be as big a propaganda movie as "The Hurt Locker".
Of course not having read the emails you don't have a clue about the number of times not compromising methods came up. Or that Boal stated right off the bat he would reveal no classified info without approval.

Obama was president when this happened. Get over it. This movie won't be about him. But just the fact he'll be mentioned is more than y'all can take. Read Richard Clarke's book. See when Bush gave up finding bin Laden. See what Obama did. He said put this on a front burner.
Go find your 4 people who disagree (who are knowledgeable) with Clarke and the senior officers in the military.

What's funny is now I always read the links you people post as proof positive of your view point. Saves me a lot of time refuting you. Because the threads refute for us. Half the time there is info that contradicts what the author says.

Go read the emails. A reasonable person would not be outraged by this.

[CuteOldGuy]

Why is a Hollywood filmmaker more entitled to these documents than I am? Is it because I am not producing a propaganda film?

[JD Barleycorn]

Munchie, more and more I am doubting you were ever in the military. It doesn't matter one iota whether a film make is going to reveal classified material or not. What matters is someone violated operation security by giving the information to the film maker. A federal crime was committed and prison time is necessary to set an example.

As for Bush giving up on Bin Laden, isn't it obvious that Bush had not given up since we were still looking for Bin Laden and eventually found him a year before Obama made his "gutsy" decision to take him down in a stupid manner.

[Guest123018-4]

Like in the other thread, the Obama administration does not have a clue when it comes to intelligence.
Tell the world exactly how we do things and what we are able to discover in our operations.
It does not make a lot of sense.

[Munchmasterman]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Why is a Hollywood filmmaker more entitled to these documents than I am? Is it because I am not producing a propaganda film?

Pretty tough to explain why they are entitled to see them and you aren’t. When you have not read any of the emails. No examples. Since you haven’t been in the military why explain the multiple levels of classification. Guess you forgot about the Bush push to classify WH emails so they couldn’t be looked at. Washington has given assistance to Hollywood for many years. It speaks volumes of your motives that you finally bitch about it now.

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Munchie, more and more I am doubting you were ever in the military. It doesn't matter one iota whether a film make is going to reveal classified material or not. What matters is someone violated operation security by giving the information to the film maker. A federal crime was committed and prison time is necessary to set an example.

As for Bush giving up on Bin Laden, isn't it obvious that Bush had not given up since we were still looking for Bin Laden and eventually found him a year before Obama made his "gutsy" decision to take him down in a stupid manner.

To the factually challenged teacher of our future generations. The trend in the military has always been to err on the side of caution when classifying. You claim operation security has been violated. By someone. Before we could discuss that, we would have to have examples. Because you haven’t read them either. If you were struck by a meteorite right now, you would die like you were born and remained you entire life. Ignorant.
So we’ll table this for now. Until one of the counter culture news sources you follow gets around to posting examples so you can be outraged again.
Your second paragraph is a fitting finale to this post. They knew where he was (precisely?) for a year? Need link to believe anything you say. You know that.
So do you have a link? Didn’t think so.
I will return after work to shred you…..again.

PS Like I care what you believe about me. You challenging my service is proof of it.

[CuteOldGuy]

Munchie misses the point. Intentionally. The Obamania has become terminal.

[Whirlaway]

Deny, obfuscate, deny, blame Bush, deny...............yada yada.........

[JD Barleycorn]

Munchie afraid to go there. Not that I doubt your service but your attitude and lack of knowledge gives one pause. Of course you were only in long enough to claim you were a vet, not long enough to really be knowledgable.

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Munchie afraid to go there. Not that I doubt your service but your attitude and lack of knowledge gives one pause. Of course you were only in long enough to claim you were a vet, not long enough to really be knowledgable.

How long would that be? I thought I knew my job pretty well,but if I haven't been in the required time.how long should I served to know it???

[Iaintliein]

It only seems fair, Hollywood gave him the PR to get them.

[JD Barleycorn]

According to Munchie's previous posts he did three years. I look upon a single enlistment like having a job you can't wait to get away from. You miss out on a lot of the experience when you're counting the days. Someone who has had a chance to be in a leadership position and see the military experience from both sides (obeying and giving orders) has a much better idea of the military life. There can be modifiers like combat or emergency duties in a crisis but then again Munchie has never admitted to that either. I don't know whether is true but from his posts he sounds like a person who wanted to escape from almost the first day he joined up so he has a very different view from the so-called lifer or career soldier.

[Doove]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Munchie misses the point. Intentionally. The Obamania has become terminal.

I think he got the point. The point is, you're little more than a boy crying wolf.

Every little thing you read about, you bring here, wave your arms in tired indignation and rant and rave. If that's not bad enough, most of the stuff you ramble on about is stuff that is so minor that it, or something like it, has probably been done by every Presidential administration for the last 240 years. We just didn't have the internet, and blogs, and 25,000 news sources making these mountains out of every mole hill until recently. And because of that, now all of a sudden, it all means the pending end of the Republic unless we get rid of this commie, fascist, socialist dictator. Just like it meant the pending end of the Republic if we didn't get rid of the last fascist dictator war criminal. Or the commie, fascist, socialist womanizer before him. And on and on and on.

Your schtick is long past getting pretty tired.

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Munchie, more and more I am doubting you were ever in the military. It doesn't matter one iota whether a film make is going to reveal classified material or not. What matters is someone violated operation security by giving the information to the film maker. A federal crime was committed and prison time is necessary to set an example.

As for Bush giving up on Bin Laden, isn't it obvious that Bush had not given up since we were still looking for Bin Laden and eventually found him a year before Obama made his "gutsy" decision to take him down in a stupid manner.

Don't forget, Jeremiah Wright was a Marine. John Kerry, Al Gore and lots of leftwing nuts are former military. Vets tend to be conservative, but it's far from a guarantee.

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by Doove

I think he got the point. The point is, you're little more than a boy crying wolf.

Every little thing you read about, you bring here, wave your arms in tired indignation and rant and rave. If that's not bad enough, most of the stuff you ramble on about is stuff that is so minor that it, or something like it, has probably been done by every Presidential administration for the last 240 years. We just didn't have the internet, and blogs, and 25,000 news sources making these mountains out of every mole hill until recently. And because of that, now all of a sudden, it all means the pending end of the Republic unless we get rid of this commie, fascist, socialist dictator. Just like it meant the pending end of the Republic if we didn't get rid of the last fascist dictator war criminal. Or the commie, fascist, socialist womanizer before him. And on and on and on.

Your schtick is long past getting pretty tired.

So you're ok with giving classified information to a Hollywood producer to make a propaganda film. Fine. Just checking. Thanks for your input.