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01-06-2012, 04:22 AM
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Black or Blah???? You Decide.....
So did Santorum say Black or Blah???? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EEMzoUGbEY
I actually think he said "Black" because I never have met a "Blah" person- major screw up by the comeback kid.
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01-06-2012, 06:51 AM
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He was getting to into the moment with his welfare speech and his true feelings came put luckily as he was expelling this comment mid-spew he 'corrected' the term.
But i think that if you feel that way, you shouldn't cover it up- makes you look like a coward because you are trying to cater to being p.c. rather than expressing your true feelings. I don't like racists but i respect them for standing by their beliefs no matter what pressures are held over them.
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01-06-2012, 07:44 AM
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Wow! You guys are really reaching here. Now I don't like Santorum, but what he said was "I don't want to make black people's lives better by giving them someone else's money. I want to give them the opportunity to make their own money." What is racist about that? He said he wants to help people get off the government tit, not add more to it. Makes sense to me.
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01-06-2012, 08:19 AM
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Like it or not, the politicians view Americans as "voting blocks" and one of those blocks is called "Black". Is it equally racists when democrats use the word Black to describe an idea or policy?
As long as we allow ourselves to be "hyphenated" Americans, we will all be "screwed" Americans, IMHO.
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01-06-2012, 11:16 AM
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Wow! You guys are really reaching here. Now I don't like Santorum, but what he said was "I don't want to make black people's lives better by giving them someone else's money. I want to give them the opportunity to make their own money." What is racist about that? He said he wants to help people get off the government tit, not add more to it. Makes sense to me.
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It's racist to assume just black people are on welfare especially in this day when alot of people are hurting no matter what their race or socio-economic standing was before the recession.In most populations white people take up a mojaritu of welfare cases simply because there are more whites than blacks in America. So he shouldn't think changing welfare will only change blacks it will change for ALL Americans that depend on welfare.
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01-06-2012, 12:01 PM
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You are partially correct Skylar, but you can't deny that African-Americans as a class have been disproportionately harmed by our welfare state which seeks to dismotivate and enslave. Our government has marginalized Native Americans as well. Even though Obama is President, it's the old white boys running the show. The only way to defeat them, if we even can, is to motivate people to be responsible for themselves, and not dependent on government.
Besides, there are many more clear reasons to oppose Santorum, I just don't think this one is legit. This statement does not make him a racist. He may be one, but this statement is not evidence to that.
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01-06-2012, 12:31 PM
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Whether or not Santorum is a racist
is of no significance considering the
present occupier of the office is.
So white racists are bad,
but halfrican racists are good?
Yes oink some animals are more equal
than others....oink
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01-06-2012, 06:52 PM
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Wow! You guys are really reaching here. Now I don't like Santorum, but what he said was "I don't want to make black people's lives better by giving them someone else's money. I want to give them the opportunity to make their own money." What is racist about that? He said he wants to help people get off the government tit, not add more to it. Makes sense to me.
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COG Iaintlian and Skylar both make valid points- I think Santorum actually said "Black" because what race or group is "Blah" he should have man up and stood by what he said- I don't think he was actually trying to insult Blacks- but geez just say what you mean and stand by what you mean- Blacks have truly been the ones who have been victimized by the system and to be quite frank with you the welfare system is one thing major I don't like about the Democratic party- for many years if you give poor people hand outs w/o any incentive to move up or make it on their own what goo is it but keeping them "slaves" .
I am just really disappointed at Santorum for not standing up to what he believes in- he should have just said "people" because you have a lot of Whites and Hispanics who use welfare too.
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01-06-2012, 08:26 PM
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I have a hell of a lot more reasons to not like Santorum that this made up "gaffe".
The guy doesn't have a clue about individule choice and personal freedom. He believes that the Government should be able to regulate individule freedoms that he and his dip shit dogooders think are 'unamerican' or 'immoral'.
Screw Him.
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01-06-2012, 08:58 PM
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he's for big gov
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01-06-2012, 09:38 PM
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Sheik hussein stands for larger govt spending
Santorums govt wouldn't even fill sheik husseins
govt's garage.
Anything I mean anything sheik hussein has
is an even worse option than Santorum.
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01-07-2012, 10:14 AM
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You are partially correct Skylar, but you can't deny that African-Americans as a class have been disproportionately harmed by our welfare state which seeks to dismotivate and enslave. Our government has marginalized Native Americans as well. Even though Obama is President, it's the old white boys running the show. The only way to defeat them, if we even can, is to motivate people to be responsible for themselves, and not dependent on government.
Besides, there are many more clear reasons to oppose Santorum, I just don't think this one is legit. This statement does not make him a racist. He may be one, but this statement is not evidence to that.
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What is it evidence of then? That he cares about black people? Don't make me laugh. And, if it is such a fine fine public statement to be making, then why in the hell is he on national TV news stupidly claiming "oh, that's not what I said. I said 'blah people.'" Black is white, up is down, I care about black people.....blah blah blah, bullshit. He's just another POS republican looking out for the haves and intent on fucking over the have-nots.
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01-09-2012, 12:46 PM
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He's just another POS republican looking out for the haves and intent on fucking over the have-nots.
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Well, yeah. That's true. But I don't think that automatically makes him a racist.
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01-09-2012, 01:04 PM
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Besides, there are many more clear reasons to oppose Santorum, I just don't think this one is legit. Agreed This statement does not make him a racist. He may be one, but this statement is not evidence to that.
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Makes him a dumbass for sure.
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and to be quite frank with you the welfare system is one thing major I don't like about the Democratic party- for many years if you give poor people hand outs w/o any incentive to move up or make it on their own what goo is it but keeping them "slaves" .
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I have a hell of a lot more reasons to not like Santorum that this made up "gaffe".
The guy doesn't have a clue about individule choice and personal freedom. He believes that the Government should be able to regulate individule freedoms that he and his dip shit dogooders think are 'unamerican' or 'immoral'.
Screw Him.
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agree
If this motley crew can agree on this about Rick, is it safe to say he will not be getting the nomination?
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01-15-2012, 06:44 AM
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I agree with Skylar, the idea behind the statement isnt racist, but the believe that blacks are the only benefactors from the welfare system seems very racist to me. Yes, giving people who are currently dependent on welfare an opportunity or incentive to work and make their own money is a good thing, but I dont think the system should be completely eradicated.
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