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Old 06-24-2023, 03:11 AM   #1
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Thumbs up MUTINY IN RUSSIA !!

The Wagner mercenary group, the spearhead of the Russian armies fighting in Ukraine, are mutiny against Russia and have captured cities in Russia and from several LIVE Tik Tok videos I have seen, are headed for Moscow.

I hope they succeed in capturing or even killing Putin and his criminals and then end the war in Ukraine.

USA and the West should help this Wagner group and give them all the military support they need.

Not like USA hasn't done this before, help over throw foreign governments and assassinate foreign leaders: South Vietnam, Chile, Cuba, Iran.

https://news.google.com/stories/CAAq...S&ceid=US%3Aen
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Old 06-24-2023, 04:40 AM   #2
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Update:

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8Js5DH9/

Putin lying to the Russian citizens

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8JsVSaP/
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Old 06-24-2023, 05:39 AM   #3
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Not necessarily a good thing . . .could become a widely dangerous situation for everyone in Europe and the wide world at large. Hope NATO is already on high alert and not tied up in meetings. China is watching. A more general European conflict could trigger them to pinch off Taiwan.
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Old 06-24-2023, 05:44 AM   #4
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It could also be that the Wagner leader (Sorry lads I can't spell his name) wants to size power for himself from Putin, or keep Putin in place and 'liquidate' the top 2 clowns in the Russian army replacing them with himself. This is a developing situation.
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Now that Wagner mercenary leader says he has come to a deal with the Russian Military High Command and he has ordered his military convoy that was racing for Moscow to stop.


https://apnews.com/article/russia-uk...0423a4116058d1


A lost opportunity to take out Putin, change the Russian leadership, end the war in Ukraine.


This reminds me of the 3 times in History where opportunities were wasted, 1. British could had ended Hitler's regime before it started and prevented World War II (1936 and 1938), and 2. France could had annihilated Hitler armies and end World War 2 at the French Belgium border but didn't (1940).
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Old 06-24-2023, 09:02 PM   #6
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Now that Wagner mercenary leader says he has come to a deal with the Russian Military High Command and he has ordered his military convoy that was racing for Moscow to stop.


https://apnews.com/article/russia-uk...0423a4116058d1


A lost opportunity to take out Putin, change the Russian leadership, end the war in Ukraine.


This reminds me of the 3 times in History where opportunities were wasted, 1. British could had ended Hitler's regime before it started and prevented World War II (1936 and 1938), and 2. France could had annihilated Hitler armies and end World War 2 at the French Belgium border but didn't (1940).

even with a large amount of Russian Army regulars tied up in Ukraine the Wagner group force isn't large enough to seize and control a city as large as Moscow. they might have been able to seize the Kremlin for a short time if they'd moved swiftly and decisively but it would have been a symbolic victory at best because Putin wouldn't be there to get captured. it was a protest and a pretext for Wagner to pull out of Ukraine.



the only way Putin gets deposed is if the Russian military turn on him.


i think you either underestimate the German army or overestimate the French and British, where in 1940 the German army along with the Japanese were the two best and battle tested armies in the world. the "Belgium gap" you refer to is because completing the Maginot Line never happened because Belgium balked at completing it.



in reality the Brits and Frencys got pushed all the way to Dunkirk. they got their arse's kicked.
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My Ukrainian intel source est. 90% of the Russian Army is deployed in Ukraine. Putin called out the Russian National Guard to deal with the Wagners. I didn't even know Russia had a National Guard. The president of Belarus negotiated the deal between Wagoner Leader and Putin. The Wagners turned back approx 200 KM from Moscow.
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