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Old 11-12-2012, 07:05 PM   #1
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Default Petition for Texas to secede from US reaches threshold for White House response

I seen this article on NBC News US this afternoon. Could this be possible? Tell me what you think!

By Vignesh Ramachandran
An online petition that calls for the state to Texas to withdraw from the U.S. and create its own government on Monday reached the required signature threshold to receive an official response from The White House.

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The petition on WhiteHouse.gov asks the Obama administration to "peacefully grant the State of Texas to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own new government." The petition had surpassed 34,000 signatures as of Monday evening. It was created by a person self-identified only as "Micah H." from Arlington, Texas.

The petition cites the nation's economic woes as an issue and says that the condition of Texas' budget and economy make it "practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union."
Online petitions on WhiteHouse.gov that get sufficient support are reviewed by White House staff and "sent to the appropriate policy experts." To be searchable on WhiteHouse.gov in the first place, petitions currently need to get 150 signatures within 30 days. To get an official response, petitions need 25,000 signatures within 30 days.
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Similar petitions from other states have also been filed including: Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina and Tennessee. However, unlike the petition from Texas, none of these states had reached the 25,000-signature threshold to get an official White House response as of Monday evening.
According to the Texas State Library and Archives Commission, a 1866 proclamation signed by then-President Andrew Johnson clearly spelled out that no state had the right to leave the union:
"...It is the manifest determination of the American people that no State, of its own will, has a right or power to go out of or separate itself from, or be separated from the American Union; and that, therefore, each State ought to remain and constitute an integral part of the United States..."
The flurry of petitions are likely just the consequence of voters unhappy with last week's presidential election results. University of Texas at Austin Assistant Professor Jason Casellas told NBC News that's likely the case in Texas, where 57 percent of the state population's vote went for Republican Mitt Romney.
Catherine Frazier, press secretary for Texas Gov. Rick Perry, told NBC News Monday that the governor "believes in the greatness of our Union and nothing should be done to change it."
"But he also shares the frustrations many Americans have with our federal government," Frazier said in a statement. "Now more than ever our country needs strong leadership from states like Texas, that are making tough decisions to live within their means, keep taxes low and provide opportunities to job creators so their citizens can provide for their families and prosper."
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Old 11-12-2012, 08:39 PM   #2
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IT WAS CREATED BY A PERSON WHO WOULDN'T FULLY IDENTIFY HIMSELF.


LMAO!
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:01 AM   #3
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IT WAS CREATED BY A PERSON WHO WOULDN'T FULLY IDENTIFY HIMSELF.

LMAO!
COG? Or IB Hankering?
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:22 PM   #4
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Rick Perry says no dice.

http://www.examiner.com/article/texa...ecede-petition
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:47 PM   #5
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Rick Perry knows the federal dollars spent in Texas are worth keeping it in the Union. He also knows that a good percentage of job creators would leave Texas and that he would be left with only Oil, Health Care, and minimum wage jobs, not enough to keep the Texas economy growing. Could they survive long term? Sure, everybody does, but it would be many years of poverty and high unemployment before the Texas economy as a stand alone economy would reach it's new equilibrium.

I guess Perry is not that dumb after all.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:56 PM   #6
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Nobody seriously thinks any state is going to secede from the Union. It's just interesting, and shows the discontent many voters have over the outcome of the election.
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:13 PM   #7
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I'm not happy either, shit, I wouldn't have been happy if Romney won either, but those are the rules we established. If we don't like them, we can change them at the voting booth. The problem is that 95% of people keep electing the same problem with a different name.
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:19 PM   #8
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Put it for a vote. Let's see how the citizens of Texas think.
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:28 PM   #9
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Put it for a vote. Let's see how the citizens of Texas think.
Rick Perry already said no dice.

http://www.examiner.com/article/texa...ecede-petition
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Old 11-13-2012, 02:50 PM   #10
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It would never pass if put for a vote. Even if Texas could survive as an independent Country, which I am not saying one way or the other. Romney only got 57% of the vote here, it is unlikely that all those people would vote for secession. That means that only 8% that voted for Romney would have to vote against. You think about how much money and scare tactics would be used. Most would vote against just because of the "evil you know is better than the evil you don't" mentality.
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Put it for a vote. Let's see how the citizens of Texas think.
Since you claim to be the expert please tell us how Texas is "trending!"

You can't do any worse than you did with "Wisconsin is trending Romney!"
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:51 AM   #12
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You know... in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter what Perry thinks. If the state legislature voted overwhelmingly for secession Perry had better get out of the way. This is what happened prior to the Civil War. There were years of talks of secession and finally South Carolina pulled the trigger when Lincoln won a five way race for President.

Up here we love the story of the mayor of St. Joseph, MO. The word came that the southern states were seceding. The mayor ran out and ran a Confederate flag up the flag pole in front of City Hall. The crowd almost lynched him on the spot. The new mayor went out and made about speech about how the union will last forever and the crowd almost lynched him as well. Go figure.
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It is Mo they are a bunch of flip flopper..
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