What are your thoughts on FOSTA?

[Luxie]

I'm curious how it will affect review websites like Eccie and what will happen once the bill inevitably gets signed and goes into effect. I have my contingency plans, what are yours?

[jbravo_123]

Yeah, I'm honestly surprised we haven't seen more discussion about FOSTA / SESTA here since those bills will directly impact this site, especially given that since it's one of the bigger ones in the South, it's almost certainly going to be targeted.

I would be interested to see if we can get a response from the site owners on what we can expect to see from the site moving forward since it seems like SESTA will be passing the Senate.

[Gotyour6]

As far as what it is I think it will hurt your dollar more than it will do anything for trafficking.

People will whore out girls no matter what is or isn't out there.

As far as sites go.
They still post on craigslist and back page. No stopping it.

Here? Rules will get strict but people will still buy pussy and girls will still sell it.

Only thing I think is forums like this will go out of country and owners will be out of country as well.

[xfrankthetankx]

I think it's hypocritical for our President who paid an adult film star more than many providers make in a year ($130,000) for sexual activities to sign a bill like this.

How is spending $130,000 for sex different than what we engage in for astronomically lower amounts as providers and hobbyists?

Just because he's rich and may not be able to face legal consequences for his actions does not mean he should be able to get away with publicly acknowledging in any way that he paid for sex.

That's what I think about it.

Yes, I do the same thing, but I'm discrete enough not to leave any chance that I would publicly admit that I have this wonderful hobby I enjoy so much.

Scrub as much as you can as a precaution and watch for anything posted here from the sites legal team.

Hopefully nothing like what happened to those idiots in Seattle's site happens here.

As it is I've noticed at least one SD type site go dark suspiciously close to the time this bill was announced as passed.

Otherwise all this does is push the worst of BP into the dark web.

Look up Senator Ron Wyden and Senator Rand Paul's statements on their "no" votes.

I think everyone is scared to post, to be honest.

[Clark W. Griswold]

There are ways around this. As mentioned before, websites hosted in different countries will not have to conform to American law. Girls online will start calling themselves models instead of courtesans. Things like that. We'll be fine.

[Snurfma]

Originally Posted by Clark W. Griswold

There are ways around this. As mentioned before, websites hosted in different countries will not have to conform to American law. Girls online will start calling themselves models instead of courtesans. Things like that. We'll be fine.

Going offshore will not save the websites. There's no net neutrality so ISP'S will be compelled to remove websites. It would have to be on the harder to use Dark Net

[easymoe]

Originally Posted by Snurfma

Going offshore will not save the websites. There's no net neutrality so ISP'S will be compelled to remove websites. It would have to be on the harder to use Dark Net

Are you sure this bill holds ISP's liable too? If so, say hello to the great American internet firewall.

If sites like this continue to run there will probably be some changes. Any mention of specific sex acts will be removed by moderators. Reviews will have to be full of general statements like "she'll treat you real nice" and vague references like that. There will be a giant disclaimer that the site owner does not endorse prostitution and everyone will come here for it anways. This industry will adapt and survive just as it has for the entire existence of humanity.

But, there's a lot of unclear verbiage in the bill that will be challenged in court anyway at first, along with some provisions that might be unconstitutional. It'll be a little while before anything noticeable happens.

[xfrankthetankx]

Only if a judge has the stones to uphold an injunction to prevent enforcement while the bill is being contested in court.

But yes it is very broadly worded and DOJ already warned Congress that as written the bill is unconstitutional.

Regardless the President who paid more than most peoples yearly income for a porn star will sign it and go for the nice photo op and bipartisan publicity.

But yes, changes are coming and this sites legal team will be releasing guidance soon enough.

Otherwise yes after the people this bill is meant for scurry off to the dark web/deep web/dark net there will be a number of providers who try out the much harder to navigate part of the web and will find mostly younger clients who expect a perfect 10 for a 1 donation.

Start following the Reason "Hit and Run" blog, they cover this issue much more favorably than the (I swear I'm not a conservative loon by saying this) main stream media and offer several links to the kind of experts you won't see as a talking head on any major network.

Otherwise start following SWOP and COYOTE ladies and gents.

[steveo4321]

If the sites go overseas what is to stop people from using VPNs to access said sites?

[Luxie]

Your ISP can still block them now that net neutrality has been passed.

[xfrankthetankx]

And if not block throttle the speed to a crawl.

[Luxie]

TER has removed the US ad section.

[soldierboy44]

TER has removed the US ad section........WOW!!

[davephx]

Yes effects all ad and review boards and foreign host doesn't escape potential years in prison for website owners. While TER shut down all U.S. ads boards today, Citivibe shut down entire site yesterday when House approved.

Reviews could be considered "promoting" and expose owners, moderators etc to long prison terms.

For extensive details on the new law and comments see
http://phxlist.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=19072

[lobosrul]

Craigslist had taken down their personals section, not that it was worth a damn.