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Old 05-05-2012, 07:47 PM   #1
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The EPA is now in the "JOB CREATING BUISNESS". I say fire 1/2 of them Bureaucrats and make the other 1/2 work....fuckem

Go to the right and hit the playlist for the video.

http://www.c-span.org/Events/EPA-Adm...y/10737430252/
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Well since the guy that was going to crucify the oil companies got run off for revealing the EPAs agenda they got to find some more people to crucify businesses and carry out the agenda of destroying American jobs.
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Its easier to destroy the environment than to destroy jobs.
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Old 05-06-2012, 06:15 AM   #4
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Yah fuck the EPA we want our country to look like a waste land like some of the other countries
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Old 05-06-2012, 06:17 AM   #5
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The EPA ruling on DDT is responsible for killing over 12 million people (mostly children) since 1971 from malaria. The EPA lied and a holocaust occurred. I know it doesn't rhyme but it is accurate.

When did the EPA get into the business of regulating farm dust? About the same time that the Labor Department tried to get into the business of regulating farm families, about right now if they had their way.

Why is the EPA so concerned about farms anyway. They only make up a very small percentage of businesses today but provide food for billions of people. You know if you control the food then you control the people.
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Old 05-06-2012, 07:11 AM   #6
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Did you just wake up and light a doob? Have you seen what DDT does to the environment? How can you attribute 12 million dead because of the EPA banning DDT? Where did all these malaria victims come from?
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Why is it that liberals want to ehlp people by punishing them rather than by being helpful via positive research into alternative ways of dealing with pollutants or harmful things to our environment. Instead they have as their agenda crucifying businesses. Deal in fear and punitive measures rather than deal in solutions.

Much like OSHA and their punitive measures rather than being informative and helpful in protecting the workers and the companies they work for. It should never be an us against them situation where the government profits from punishment rather than to truly help to make the work place safer for all.
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Old 05-06-2012, 02:42 PM   #8
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Uhm...are you guys forgetting the EPA was started by Nixon...to help find ways to preserve and conserve our natural resources instead of having them sqandered by narrow minded business interests?
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Old 05-06-2012, 02:51 PM   #9
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I guess the EPA creates jobs by hiring more and more people. Ever expanding government agency. Fucking with buisness. They are BIG enough.
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Old 05-06-2012, 03:03 PM   #10
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The EPA was created by Richard Nixon and he nominated William Ruckleshaus as its first head. Ruckleshaus was a lawyer who represented Zero Population. They were a group that thought there were too many people in the world. Judge Sweeney conducted an 11 month hearing on the demonstrated effectiveness of DDT and the overuse by poorly regulated persons. He wrote a 132 page decision which exonerated DDT when used properly. This was turned over to Ruckelshaus, who only attended one day of the hearing, and he threw out the report and submitted his own 30 page report which was found to be full of errors. Using this bogus report the EPA pushed for the ban on DDT and went to the UN asking for a world ban. They got it and malaria in the third world increased. In 1971 there were 18 deaths from malaria Sri Lanka, in 1998 over 2100. Most deaths were in Africa. Most of the victims were under the age of 5 years old. The cost is in the hundreds of billions. The research is there if you bother to look it up.

The original mandate for the EPA was to act as a central clearing house for governmental environmental agencies. They were to write regulations based on legislation passed by Congress. That is turned around backwards now. They were not an enforcement arm of the government originally. The EPA is that little egg that you found, kept warm, and hatched. That egg turned into a 20 feet long alligator that wants to eat you and not a peacock.
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The EPA ruling on DDT is responsible for killing over 12 million people (mostly children) since 1971 from malaria. The EPA lied and a holocaust occurred. I know it doesn't rhyme but it is accurate.

When did the EPA get into the business of regulating farm dust? About the same time that the Labor Department tried to get into the business of regulating farm families, about right now if they had their way.

Why is the EPA so concerned about farms anyway. They only make up a very small percentage of businesses today but provide food for billions of people. You know if you control the food then you control the people.
As a true idiot you probably were unconcerned on the effects of DDT on the environment,and the problems it caused in the food chain. Iit is proven because each of your posts you include a pic of your brother.
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:00 AM   #12
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Apparently you can't read very well...let me try again. The evidence presented demonstrated that when used properly DDT posed no credible, provable threat to the environment. Rachel Carson's book was a novel and not scientific evidence. Biologists found that the age of a nesting couple had more corellation to thinner shells than did the presence of DDT. John G. Edwards would eat a spoon full of DDT at the start of every lecture he gave for 40 years to show that it was not the boogy man the radical environmental movement (Big Green) made it out to be. I looked this stuff up a couple of years ago, your turn.
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Old 05-07-2012, 11:01 AM   #13
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FYI J D
DDT takes 15 years or longer to break down
fish consumption advisory is in effect in many waterways and the great lakes

is a probable human carcinogen
damages the liver
temporally damages the nervous system
reduces reproductive sucess
can cause liver cancer
damages the reproductive system

it does cause egg shell thinning in birds especally the ones feeding on fish
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The EPA is a double edged sword, one on hand at one time there were companies who out of ignorance or malice dumped nasty chemicals and wastes into the environment and there needed to be regulation. However the way bureaucracy runs amok and especially when radicals get into power in these organizations they over regulate.

With our current state of the country our President has used his far left goons he's appointed to the DOJ, EPA, and every other alphabetically named organization to promote his agenda which hasn't helped the state of our economy. This is evident in how under Obama no new drilling permits have been given to find oil/gas on public lands, the new drilling in the gulf was slammed hard (he used an environmentally impacted event) while at the same time giving money to Brazil and other countries to drill in the gulf.

Then on the subject of the Gulf Oil Spill, a nasty secret the enviro-goons don't want you to know about crude oil, its BIODEGRADABLE and a fertilizer. It may take 12-24 months to disperse but it will, but go out in your yard pour some raw crude out, it will be black and nasty this year but next spring that spot will be greener than before.
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Old 05-07-2012, 12:51 PM   #15
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I suggest that you google Dr. John Gordon Edwards before you write one more word. Go on, it won't hurt you and it might open your mind to 40 years of propaganda.
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