Time and Newsweek Want You To Die Sooner

[CuteOldGuy]

Time and Newsweek magazines have taken the bold stand that killing old people is compassionate and good for the economy.

They'll be old, too, someday. Wonder if their opinion will change when they see the plug being pulled on them.

http://www.naturalnews.com/036100_de..._Magazine.html

Now, if a rational person makes a DNR request, of course it should be honored. What I am opposed to is the idea that this is good for everyone. And that the government should enforce it.

Trust me, you do NOT want the government telling you when you should die. That is not a good plan.

[joe bloe]

I think, at the end of the day, the radical left is anti-human. One central principle, that is a common thread in almost all liberal thought, is to praise the weaker party and demonize the stronger party in any power dispute. Liberals choose women over men, gays over straights, poor people over rich people and of course, the rest of the world over America.

In questions of ecology, liberals side with nature over humans. Liberals think humans are evil compared to nature because humans have power over the natural world. I think that radical ecologists would have no problem with human extinction if it meant saving endangered species and stopping global warming. Radical ecologists do not believe that the human species is any more important than any other species. I think this liberal loathing of the human species explains why liberals embrace abortion, euthanasia and gay marriage. Liberalism is becoming a culture of death. Liberals mistake masochistic self loathing for virtue.

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

I think, at the end of the day, the radical left is anti-human. One central principle, that is a common thread in almost all liberal thought, is to praise the weaker party and demonize the stronger party in any power dispute. Liberals choose women over men, gays over straights, poor people over rich people and of course, the rest of the world over America.

In questions of ecology, liberals side with nature over humans. Liberals think humans are evil compared to nature because humans have power over the natural world. I think that radical ecologists would have no problem with human extinction if it meant saving endangered species and stopping global warming. Radical ecologists do not believe that the human species is any more important than any other species. I think this liberal loathing of the human species explains why liberals embrace abortion, euthanasia and gay marriage. Liberalism is becoming a culture of death. Liberals mistake masochistic self loathing for virtue.

Hey joe what you trying to do prove you are just as rabid as Marshal?
this has got to be one of your dumber rants.

[acp5762]

Our Country is ran and our leaders are dictated and influenced by Oligarchs a ruling class. The idea of depopulation is quite real in the minds of these idiots. The office of the Presidency is now really nothing more than a puppet post. The idea of a Party system or Left or Right really doesn't exist anymore it's just there as scenery.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Trust me, you do NOT want the government telling you when you should die. That is not a good plan.

You want smaller government but if ninety year old folks want heart transplants....you approve of the government paying for it?


You see where this flawed logic has me scratching my head folks?

[Guest123018-4]

Soylent Green is People!

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by ekim008

Hey joe what you trying to do prove you are just as rabid as Marshal?
this has got to be one of your dumber rants.

This is an example of what I'm talking about.

The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement (VHEMT[A]) is an environmental movement that calls for all people to abstain from reproduction to cause the gradual voluntary extinction of humankind. VHEMT supports human extinction primarily because, in the group's view, it would prevent environmental degradation. The group states that a decrease in the human population would prevent a significant amount of man-made human suffering. The extinctions of non-human species and the scarcity of resources required by humans are frequently cited by the group as evidence of the harm caused by human overpopulation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volunta...ction_Movement

Liberal Democracy as a Culture of Death: Why John Paul II Was Right | Dr. Raymond Dennehy | Ignatius Insight

"To claim the right to abortion, infanticide, and euthanasia, and to recognize that right in law, means to attribute to human freedom a perverse and evil significance: that of an absolute power over others and against others. This is the death of true freedom." -- John Paul II, The Gospel of Life

http://www.ignatiusinsight.com/featu...cle_july08.asp

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by WTF

You want smaller government but if ninety year old folks want heart transplants....you approve of the government paying for it?


You see where this flawed logic has me scratching my head folks?

Hmmm . . . Speaking of flawed logic, how does taking the government out of private medical decisions increase the size of government? A person's health decisions should be the province of the person, their family, and their doctor. It's not liking ordering a Big Gulp, idiot. You don't get a heart transplant just because you want one. When making a medical decision, all factors need to be considered, not just cost.

Allowing the government to make the decsion opens up all kinds of trouble. Should a Down's Syndrome, or MS sufferer be given life saving treatment? How about borderline MR individuals? There's lots of money to be saved by killing people. How about political opponents? Why should they be allowed treatment?

You're an idiot if you think this is only about 90 year olds who want to live. Giving the government the authority to override medical decisions is horrifying.

[Iaintliein]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

I think, at the end of the day, the radical left is anti-human. One central principle, that is a common thread in almost all liberal thought, is to praise the weaker party and demonize the stronger party in any power dispute. Liberals choose women over men, gays over straights, poor people over rich people and of course, the rest of the world over America.

In questions of ecology, liberals side with nature over humans. Liberals think humans are evil compared to nature because humans have power over the natural world. I think that radical ecologists would have no problem with human extinction if it meant saving endangered species and stopping global warming. Radical ecologists do not believe that the human species is any more important than any other species. I think this liberal loathing of the human species explains why liberals embrace abortion, euthanasia and gay marriage. Liberalism is becoming a culture of death. Liberals mistake masochistic self loathing for virtue.

At the very least, self loathing comes into play. No one can hate what their country stands for, feel constant "class guilt" etc., without also hating themselves at some level. Maybe that's why the rank and file are so drawn to malignant narcissists like "O", if he can love himself so much maybe they figure they can love themselves vicariously through him? I mean, after all, aren't they a happy group overall?

[boardman]

Originally Posted by WTF

You want smaller government but if ninety year old folks want heart transplants....you approve of the government paying for it?


You see where this flawed logic has me scratching my head folks?

I want smaller government and I don't want them paying for anything that isn't required of them by the constitution.

[Laz]

I do not want the government anywhere near medical decisions. However, if the tax payor is paying for the medical care then the government should be able to recover the cost from the persons estate. Those assets do not belong to the heirs and should be used to pay for those costs.

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by Iaintliein

At the very least, self loathing comes into play. No one can hate what their country stands for, feel constant "class guilt" etc., without also hating themselves at some level. Maybe that's why the rank and file are so drawn to malignant narcissists like "O", if he can love himself so much maybe they figure they can love themselves vicariously through him? I mean, after all, aren't they a happy group overall?

Self loathing permeates the liberal attitude. Tearing down our culture, our history and denigrating everything that normal people celebrate is the heart of the liberal mindset. Anyone that reveres traditional values and culture is ridiculed as a hayseed and a rube by liberals.

After decades of relentless propaganda, liberals have succeeded in convincing a high percentage of Americans that our country is essentially evil. No country can survive if the average citizen does not believe that their country deserves to survive.

[Can I Play Too???]

Originally Posted by acp5762

Our Country is ran and our leaders are dictated and influenced by Oligarchs a ruling class. The idea of depopulation is quite real in the minds of these idiots. The office of the Presidency is now really nothing more than a puppet post. The idea of a Party system or Left or Right really doesn't exist anymore it's just there as scenery.

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."

—David Rockefeller

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Laz

I do not want the government anywhere near medical decisions. However, if the tax payor is paying for the medical care then the government should be able to recover the cost from the persons estate. Those assets do not belong to the heirs and should be used to pay for those costs.

Finally a logical solution.

What these far right wing nuts do not understand is that Medicare is a GOVERNMENT PROGRAM. They do not understand that we all pay when poor people go to the ER.We all pay when grandma gets a new heart. I wish they would quit bitching about the deficit if you do not want to cut Defense spending or Medicare spending. They are the two biggest expenses in government by far!

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Iaintliein

At the very least, self loathing comes into play. No one can hate what their country stands for, feel constant "class guilt" etc., without also hating themselves at some level. Maybe that's why the rank and file are so drawn to malignant narcissists like "O", if he can love himself so much maybe they figure they can love themselves vicariously through him? I mean, after all, aren't they a happy group overall?

Originally Posted by joe bloe

Self loathing permeates the liberal attitude. Tearing down our culture, our history and denigrating everything that normal people celebrate is the heart of the liberal mindset. Anyone that reveres traditional values and culture is ridiculed as a hayseed and a rube by liberals.

After decades of relentless propaganda, liberals have succeeded in convincing a high percentage of Americans that our country is essentially evil. No country can survive if the average citizen does not believe that their country deserves to survive.

God you two remind me of the the character in American Beauty Col. Frank Fitts, USMC, played by Chris Cooper.