Should ECCIE allow "private" forums like London's Coven?

[charlestudor2005]

My POV:
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Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

And, to a certain extent, I blame ECCIE for allowing London to set up her "private" Forum, and then advertise specials for those members only. IDK what kind of monetary relationship there is between London and ECCIE, but I think ECCIE has set up a "special" Forum, the kind of which is not open to other providers to solicit more and more business. So, they have 300 members. And they think that is good. But, what about other providers that would like a similar setup. IMHO, what ECCIE has done here has been pussy whipped by 3+ providers to increase their business to the detriment of other providers.

Is ECCIE getting a kick-back? Who knows? Are the mods getting free service? Who knows (although that was an no-no on ASPD, IDK whether it is built into the ECCIE business model)?

Your POV???

[Chislaine]

Ah so is that where all the biz going?

[NinaBrooke]

[QUOTE=charlestudor2005;1818767]My POV:

Your POV???

Yes they should and as far as i am aware there are plenty of other private groups on here as well. I am only in the Coven. And love it. Proud member! Because i feel my soul belongs there :-) People who claim to be classy labeling others as coven and excluding them from other forums is also - well, no shit :-).

If we start discussing what happens BCD then well some other things also would not have happened, wouldn?t they? So, what is your point exactly , Charles? That you can`t avoid people talking about things and you are not supposed to hear it? I am glad i don`t hear what happens behind my back . My recent discoveries of a jealous escort obsessed with me - because she can`t get my ex stopping to add some meaning to our past relationship that she never will have in his world - using my words and thoughts on some - now closed - hookerboard for drumming up her HDH business was shocker enough. I would be happy if i did not find my sexlife with my exboyfriend splattered all over the internet - disguised as some badly written "wanna be anais nin" stories - and my opinions stolen without quoting them right ;-). so , be happy !!

As to escorts promoting specials : Cry me a river, Charles... again what is your point. There are many people out there who offer specials to just certain someones. What about long standing clients of HDHs? Some get banged for free !! Beat that!! Or get different rates than others. What is your problem? Friends have a different status than strangers. Are you London`s regular? No? Then why would anyone offer you a special?

If we are discussing fairness here: Why for example are all people participating on eccie invited to another forum and some - me for example - are not? What does that mean? It is just like some things go. I have not decided to label myself as bad witch - aka "The Coven" . So you should start digging up dirt where it belongs. :-).

As to mods getting free services and trying to behave inappropriate with providers - aren`t they kicked out and on some other board? Didn`t they leave eccie because they have been called out for supporting some and not others in fights - i wonder who gets benefits from whom? Someone who sits in the glasshouse should not throw stones. I had this same ex eccie moderator all of a sudden emailing me at P411 instead of here, because he would not want anyone to know that he wanted to see me. What an idiot? Because the ones who told some of us they are coven are the ones who would not be amused if he would be seing any of "us" right? So - if you start a shitstorm you must be able to handle the consequences....

Bring it on :-)

[London Rayne]

If your biz is slow, blame yourself not anyone else. My business is not slow from TER and I NEVER post a word on their discussion forums. Go figure. So much for that theory. I have double the reviews there as I do here, and not a single post on discussion in over a year.

If a guy wants to see you or interact with you, he will. If not, he will go elsewhere. No one is being forced...it's a private INVITATION only forum!

Charles is just being the puppet for the OHC again, because they had to run off lol. Not my problem. ANYONE on Eccie can buy their own forum...you still gotta get people to join lol.

Nina is right...we did not take business or clients away from Eccie like your little butt hurt buddies Charles. We kept that money right here...jealous much? Who has a head for marketing lol. Had we posted ads saying, "Hey come join Courtesan Cooties, THAT would be taking away people FROM Eccie...not the other way around. You lose..sorry.

I think a discussion about what a board should sell is retarded coming from a member who is not supporting the site at ALL! We have no advertising forums to place ads in there...it's the same rules as the regular forums. The ONLY thing we can do, is hijack threads..big whoop! It's simply a way to exclude the freaking azz clowns we want nothing to do with, while chatting with those we actually like. Half this board has me on ignore anyway, so who cares if they can't join The Coven?

No harm in that. No reviews, no ads, no bs. Stop whining Charles...you're supposed to be a grown man lol. Maybe tell your buddy to stop playing you for a fool like she used to do with WTF until he realized what a nut job and a manipulator she really was..oops! Guess you have yet to find that out yet eh? All in good time Chuckie.

As for specials...right lol. I said "incentives" not specials. If I am fkin mods for special treatment why was I banned 4 times in less than a year? Why am I still being pointed? Get real Chuck! I fk mods sure...for the MONEY just like any other client.

[charlestudor2005]

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[quote=ninasastri;1818826]

Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

My POV:


Yes they should and as far as i am aware there are plenty of other private groups on here as well. So, point them out. If any exist, which I doubt, they are not as blatant as the Coven thread. I am only in the Coven. And love it. Proud member! Because i feel my soul belongs there :-) People who claim to be classy labeling others as coven and excluding them from other forums is also - well, no shit :-). IDK of any other exclusionary forums, except those based on gender and access. For instance, I don't have access to the Powder Room or the Men's Locker Room. And I don't have access to the ROS b/c I don't have PA.

If we start discussing what happens BCD then well some other things also would not have happened, wouldn?t they? Where in the world did you get that I was talking about BCD issues? So, what is your point exactly , Charles? That you can`t avoid people talking about things and you are not supposed to hear it? I am glad i don`t hear what happens behind my back . You sure are reading a lot into my post that was never there. My recent discoveries of a jealous escort obsessed with me - because she can`t get my ex stopping to add some meaning to our past relationship that she never will have in his world - using my words and thoughts on some - now closed - hookerboard for drumming up her HDH business was shocker enough. What the hell does your stalker have to do with me? That's between you and her. I don't know anything about it nor do I have any interest in it. This is merely gratuitous disclosure on your part. I would be happy if i did not find my sexlife with my exboyfriend splattered all over the internet - disguised as some badly written "wanna be anais nin" stories - and my opinions stolen without quoting them right ;-). so , be happy !!

As to escorts promoting specials : Cry me a river, Charles... again what is your point. I don't have a problem with escorts promoting specials. That's a part of the business. What I do have a problem with is ECCIE allowing certain favored escorts to promote specials exclusively to members of ECCIE with paid PA membership. That doesn't pass the smell test. There are many people out there who offer specials to just certain someones. What about long standing clients of HDHs? Some get banged for free !! Beat that!! Or get different rates than others. What is your problem? Like I said above, I don't have a problem with any of that. It's this "special relationship" that I think may stink. Friends have a different status than strangers. Are you London`s regular? No? And I never will be!!! Then why would anyone offer you a special? Anyone??? Well, I might run into someone who is offering a special. As a matter of fact, I did this weekend.

If we are discussing fairness here: Why for example are all people participating on eccie invited to another forum and some - me for example - are not? What does that mean? What the hell are you talking about??? It is just like some things go. I have not decided to label myself as bad witch - aka "The Coven" . So you should start digging up dirt where it belongs. :-). So, you are a proud member in the first paragraph, but you deny it here????

As to mods getting free services and trying to behave inappropriate with providers - aren`t they kicked out and on some other board? Didn`t they leave eccie because they have been called out for supporting some and not others in fights - i wonder who gets benefits from whom? Someone who sits in the glasshouse should not throw stones. I have no idea to that which you are referring. I had this same ex eccie moderator all of a sudden emailing me at P411 instead of here, because he would not want anyone to know that he wanted to see me. What an idiot? Because the ones who told some of us they are coven are the ones who would not be amused if he would be seing any of "us" right? So - if you start a shitstorm you must be able to handle the consequences....

Bring it on :-)

I just asked some rational questions. Not my fault if they touched some bare nerves. I didn't start any shit storm. The above are my replies to your rant.

[London Rayne]

Charles, you do realize that anyone can say in an ad that "Eccie PA Members can PM me for specials?" You simply can't mention actual rates or services..duh. If it's allowed in an ad, why would it be any different in a private forum we are PAYING FOR?

Again, Charles you know nothing. The Spider Hole is a hell of a lot more passive than the Coven will ever be allowed to be...that's a fact admitted by the owners themselves, and the only forum like it of its kind! Too bad you didn't accept the invite to that either, because it would have been a massacre!

I invite who the hell I want in The Coven and I can offer them anything I darn well please! They are MY friends, and those of the other mods I put in there! Get over it! If I want to make a public announcement about giving a free bj is that ok? WTF dude...go look at some of the review specials out in public bwahahaha...now that's some funny crap!

I think you're delusional and your buddies are even more pissed that they are not getting any attention...again, not my problem. I can't make guys notice them or pay them...I am not a pimp. Maybe that's your new line of work?

First you and your band of banshees b^tch about us posting too much in the public forums, that we are running off their high end clients lol, then you don't want us in D and T, and now that we get our own place to lurk around and not post in public so much, you have an issue with that as well? Make up your damn mind already! Is it the board or my sig line that bothers you? Hell I just put it up there today, so I can take it off. Good freaking lawd!

[NinaBrooke]

Eccie has certain favoured escorts? who would that be? London? The same London who was banned like - hm - four times so far? Naomi? Same as well. Hell yeah i was not banned yet, so you can only mean me? Oh sure, i have all the mods in my pocket. Granted. They are currently gathering in my Lisbon home cooking dinner for me then i dress them up like pinguins and have them bend over twice. all for me. classy :-).
I have them fly over so i can get a few favours here on eccie. Oh what kind of favours? That they spell check all my posts (lol) ? That would probably be more of a favour for you, CHarles....(lol)

Charles, you should ask for access to the powder room - you certainly whine like a girl , really :-)

- cynical of course - (lol)

ps: you might ask your "friends" where the name coven comes from. Its only related to a certain group of people. You are not one of them. That has a reason. Go figure.
pps: If you are trying to have a RATIONAL discussion , you probably should educate yourself on the subject properly before discussing it?? (Just saying)
ppps: you are a hypocrite - you call out london for making specials to some friends of hers. But you have NO problems with HDHs who charge regular friends different prices or even bareback them some way down the road out of the exact "special" reason you deny others to have? HYPOCRITICAL ;-) you`re seriously NOT making any sense.

[charlestudor2005]

Nina, just putting this where it belongs.

The three of you bat 1000 when it comes to men. I think, for the most part, you are men haters. You use the business to manipulate men, and it's quite apparent on this board that a lot of men have their tongues dragging on the floor when it comes to the three of you. But you do hate men. You use and abuse them to your benefit. You make your money off them, and as soon as they are out the door, I'm sure your laughing at them. How ugly they are. How sad they are. How they have to pay for it. Anything to demean and degrade men in general.

And I won't go into it, but all you say about me in this post is wrong. I do laugh at myself. I don't stab people in the back. You look at the relationship between me and Naomi, but you see only the short term. Naomi and I have a long history that no one really sees. And the relationship has been up and down over the years. Now, it's mostly down. Ask her some time what she once promised me.

And as far as London is concerned, I am not in her potential client of choice demographic. She likes younger guys, and I am definitely not that. But Naomi likes older guys. But, as you can see, we would never hit it off.

Originally Posted by ninasastri

There is a big FUCKING difference between people like you - and people like Naomi, London and me: We - and i mean all of us - are capable of making jokes about ourselves (i referred to all of us as no class -lol) . But you - are one of the kinds of people i am allergic to because you are unable to take yourself with humour, but point out other people`s flaws. That is the same issue we had here about apologizing or admitting someone is wrong. WE are capable of doing that. Some don`t , you are not. That is why WE will never be a bird of a feather. And that is why it is possible that three women who are very different from each other, manage to evolve a deep friendship. Ever thought about that? You never try to get along.

You are the kind of person who takes information about people and then uses it to stab their back. I have had that before in my life, and you are that kind of person who can`t see anything even when it`s obvious.
And the best is when you cry victim after getting called out. I have been there before too.
Your stupid stabbings about my so called "language barrier" are nothing else. Seems nevertheless i can understand people and ettiquette better than you.


SO now please BACK ON TRACK!

Spell check aside. Bite me. As long as there are AMERICAN HOOKERS out there who pretend to have degrees they don`t and then use words like "controvercial" instead of the correct word on their ad page, or are too damn stupid to take deposits and post that as well on their homepage that they got stood up by clients, i think i am doing pretty well :.)). At least my degrees are real! And as far as i checked, i have no pimp or do clients bareback for jobs. Because with my REAL degree i might get one if i want :-). How about that?

[London Rayne]

Don't blame Charles...he is too stupid to figure out he is a puppet. WTF will clue him in one day I am sure lol. Must be sad to be so manipulated into saying the things some don't have the BALLS to say themselves. Run along now lap dog of the week bwahahahaha

Charles I love men...just don't like whiney, pathetic, insecure, STUPID men. That's all. I'm sorry but as a guy who cheats on his damn wife and pays hookers are YOU NOT USING US? STFU already! We use men and they use us..no sh*t Sherlock..this is not match.com it's fks for bucks.

The MEN you claim we abuse, freaking know this already and want the same thing...for us to GO AWAY after! The ONLY men being used are the ones being lied to lol. I don't lie to anyone honey. It's not rocket science....pretty straight forward wtf I am selling. I don't pretend to be some princess on these boards then dog guys out behind their backs...I flat out tell em what's up!

I love the way you think you...a person who has never even had ONE conversation with any of us other than on a hooker board, knows anything about us. This is not about us..it's about Eccie remember?

You were saying how fked up their business model was, how their mods and the owners were fking women for favors and the like? Please continue, because this is going to get interesting bwahahaha! I have less than 20 reviews on this board and over 7k posts...just how much fking do you think I am doing here? Thank you!

[Naomi4u]

Lmfao. We've been banned more than anyone here and we're favored? Haaaaa! This is just funny. Ladies, I think I'm going to use the ignore button for the first time ever today.

[London Rayne]

Ahh let him have his 15 min. of fame. It's 10 more than his real life ever gave him which is why he is so damn miserable and bitter. Kind of sounds like another provider we know eh? Birds of a feather I guess.

[charlestudor2005]

Originally Posted by ninasastri

That they spell check all my posts (lol) ? That would probably be more of a favour for you, CHarles....(lol)

Yeah, but apparently I'd have to fuck some of them for the privilege...and there are some things I just won't stoop to.

[London Rayne]

Oh cmon Charles...we have seen "some" of the women you have fked lol. I doubt you would be stooping to anything.

[charlestudor2005]

@All 3 of you...

Boy it doesn't take much to get you all fired up lol.

And talk about bullying. All three of you ganging up on little ole me?

I actually feel sorry for you. And I haven't felt that in a long time.

[charlestudor2005]

Originally Posted by London Rayne

Oh cmon Charles...we have seen "some" of the women you have fked lol. I doubt you would be stooping to anything.

That's a lame one-liner, London, even for you. Cheap shot.