Multiple people shot and killed in a parade near Chicago.

[Devo]

OR, why nobody who wants to live safely should ever be in a liberal shithole city.


https://www.foxnews.com/us/chaos-eru...th-july-parade

[Devo]

Caught him, and before they portray him as a Trump Supporter, and this gets memoryholed.

https://www.akfiles.com/forums/attac...00-png.285258/

[Charley3]

Another high capacity rifle kills more people. I’m sure our founding fathers knew these weapons would be invented and the mass murderer weapon of choice when they wrote the bill of rights.
So……another group of dead and injured people have our thoughts AND they also get our prayers. What more could they possibly want.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by Charley3

Another mentally unstable person and his complicit family kills more people.

Fixed it for you.

[Charley3]

Originally Posted by berryberry

Fixed it for you.

Good job. And I’m sure we’ll weed out those mentally unstable folks with high powered weapons real soon.
In the mean time, our thoughts AND our prayers will tide them over.

[Devo]

Originally Posted by Charley3

Another high capacity rifle kills more people. I’m sure our founding fathers knew these weapons would be invented and the mass murderer weapon of choice when they wrote the bill of rights.
So……another group of dead and injured people have our thoughts AND they also get our prayers. What more could they possibly want.

And another case, AGAIN, where LE did nothing to put a suicidal and then homicidle kid back onto the streets, with his full rights to buy a weapon.

TELL ME, how will red flag laws work if LE doesn't do a fucking thing about dangerous, mentally ill children.

Bad family, poor upbringing, clear signs of needing help.

Do you think any gun owner wants to see people like this accessing guns, let alone knives like the kid threatened to kill everybody with?

The laws just passed, treats every under 21 as a potential criminal, and we don't even have a system in place to make sick people get flagged, and reported to the system as it is now.

How can a check be enhanced if nothing is there to see?

A solution you have maybe, other than old and tired trite comments about guns killing people?

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by Charley3

Good job. And I’m sure we’ll weed out those mentally unstable folks with high powered weapons real soon.
In the mean time, our thoughts AND our prayers will tide them over.

Put the blame where it belongs - on this cretin and his family.

Highland Park police says they had two prior encounters with the shooter:

April 2019: Suicide attempt

Sept 2019: Family member said Crimo threatened to "kill everyone" and police removed 16 knives, a dagger and a sword but found no probable cause to arrest as the family refused to press charges. They did file a police report and made sure the Illinois State Police received a copy

In addition, Crimo was a high school dropout and spent lots of time on social media as a rapper on YouTube. His music videos seem to reference mass shootings. One video includes cartoon images of a gunman pointing a large rifle, and of other figures spurting blood. Later in the video, the gunman lies in a pool of blood near police cars. Another video shows Crimo with a newspaper displayed on the wall behind him carrying a headline about the killing of Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated President Kennedy in 1963. Crimo, who identified himself as “Awake the Rapper,” sits on a bed in front of the newspaper. The word “Awake” was tattooed over his left eyebrow.

His family seem absent as at school before he dropped out Crimo and his brother were often left waiting at the end of the day. “When the program ended at 4:30, everyone else had their parents or their grandparents or their caregivers pick them up and take them home. And the last kids waiting there every day were the Crimo kids,”

Finally, in December 2019 his father cosigned for his Firearm Owners ID card even after he had threatened to kill his family and having his weapons confiscated 3 months prior. Because the family did not press charges at the time of the Sept 2019 death threats, ISP says that when they were reviewing Crimo's FOID card application in Jan 2020, "there was insufficient basis to establish a clear and present danger and deny the FOID application."

So to recap:
1. Crimo lived at home with his family who were absent while he was in school
2. He had committed a suicide attempt
3. He had threatened to kill his family
4. He made videos fantasizing about killing people
5. And despite all this his father sponsored him getting his gun registration and the family said nothing when he came home with 5 guns

Pretty obvious where the blame belongs - and it is not some inanimate object that can't shoot itself

[Charley3]

Originally Posted by berryberry

Put the blame where it belongs - on this cretin and his family.

Highland Park police says they had two prior encounters with the shooter:

April 2019: Suicide attempt

Sept 2019: Family member said Crimo threatened to "kill everyone" and police removed 16 knives, a dagger and a sword but found no probable cause to arrest as the family refused to press charges. They did file a police report and made sure the Illinois State Police received a copy

In addition, Crimo was a high school dropout and spent lots of time on social media as a rapper on YouTube. His music videos seem to reference mass shootings. One video includes cartoon images of a gunman pointing a large rifle, and of other figures spurting blood. Later in the video, the gunman lies in a pool of blood near police cars. Another video shows Crimo with a newspaper displayed on the wall behind him carrying a headline about the killing of Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated President Kennedy in 1963. Crimo, who identified himself as “Awake the Rapper,” sits on a bed in front of the newspaper. The word “Awake” was tattooed over his left eyebrow.

His family seem absent as at school before he dropped out Crimo and his brother were often left waiting at the end of the day. “When the program ended at 4:30, everyone else had their parents or their grandparents or their caregivers pick them up and take them home. And the last kids waiting there every day were the Crimo kids,”

Finally, in December 2019 his father cosigned for his Firearm Owners ID card even after he had threatened to kill his family and having his weapons confiscated 3 months prior. Because the family did not press charges at the time of the Sept 2019 death threats, ISP says that when they were reviewing Crimo's FOID card application in Jan 2020, "there was insufficient basis to establish a clear and present danger and deny the FOID application."

So to recap:
1. Crimo lived at home with his family who were absent while he was in school
2. He had committed a suicide attempt
3. He had threatened to kill his family
4. He made videos fantasizing about killing people
5. And despite all this his father sponsored him getting his gun registration and the family said nothing when he came home with 5 guns

Pretty obvious where the blame belongs - and it is not some inanimate object that can't shoot itself

You may be on to something. That’s it, we’ll round up all the mentally ill and take their guns. Let’s not let the fact that we don’t know who most of the mentally I’ll are AND mental illness can come on at any age. Maybe we can change the Hippa laws and they’ll be required to have a “I am nuts” stamped on their forehead.
Just don’t take my AK-47 or AR15. I have too much fun with them. I’m also looking into building a grenade launcher. Thanks Hopefully I don’t go crazy.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by Charley3

You may be on to something. That’s it, we’ll round up all the mentally ill and take their guns. Let’s not let the fact that we don’t know who most of the mentally I’ll are AND mental illness can come on at any age. Maybe we can change the Hippa laws and they’ll be required to have a “I am nuts” stamped on their forehead.
Just don’t take my AK-47 or AR15. I have too much fun with them. I’m also looking into building a grenade launcher. Thanks Hopefully I don’t go crazy.

You clearly ignored all the relevant facts I shared and you can't have a reasoned conversation - so go ahead, keep making silly statements and embarrassing yourself

[Charley3]

You have no facts. Just YOUR opinion. We are standing around collectively debating the same old shit while kids get shot by high powered weapons.
The only FACT is that innocent lives are lost due to lunatics with high powered weaponry.
Continue on with your tribal political garbage.
I would agree that more needs to done with mental illness transparency along with a start to eliminate weapons that the founding fathers had no knowledge of and
Couldn’t predict the deadly use on innocent people. Now THATS a fact jack.

[Devo]

An AR15 is not a high powered weapon, its cartridge isn't even capable of taking deer reliably.

But facts don't matter do they?

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by Charley3

You have no facts. Just YOUR opinion. We are standing around collectively debating the same old shit while kids get shot by high powered weapons.
The only FACT is that innocent lives are lost due to lunatics with high powered weaponry.
Continue on with your tribal political garbage.
I would agree that more needs to done with mental illness transparency along with a start to eliminate weapons that the founding fathers had no knowledge of and
Couldn’t predict the deadly use on innocent people. Now THATS a fact jack.

THESE ARE CALLED FACTS. You should learn to recognize them and then perhaps you would really see where the blame belongs - and it is not some inanimate object that can't shoot itself. There is a reason why the cretin's mother and father have already lawyered up

Highland Park police says they had two prior encounters with the shooter:

April 2019: Suicide attempt

Sept 2019: Family member said Crimo threatened to "kill everyone" and police removed 16 knives, a dagger and a sword but found no probable cause to arrest as the family refused to press charges. They did file a police report and made sure the Illinois State Police received a copy

In addition, Crimo was a high school dropout and spent lots of time on social media as a rapper on YouTube. His music videos seem to reference mass shootings. One video includes cartoon images of a gunman pointing a large rifle, and of other figures spurting blood. Later in the video, the gunman lies in a pool of blood near police cars. Another video shows Crimo with a newspaper displayed on the wall behind him carrying a headline about the killing of Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated President Kennedy in 1963. Crimo, who identified himself as “Awake the Rapper,” sits on a bed in front of the newspaper. The word “Awake” was tattooed over his left eyebrow.

His family seem absent as at school before he dropped out Crimo and his brother were often left waiting at the end of the day. “When the program ended at 4:30, everyone else had their parents or their grandparents or their caregivers pick them up and take them home. And the last kids waiting there every day were the Crimo kids,”

Finally, in December 2019 his father cosigned for his Firearm Owners ID card even after he had threatened to kill his family and having his weapons confiscated 3 months prior. Because the family did not press charges at the time of the Sept 2019 death threats, ISP says that when they were reviewing Crimo's FOID card application in Jan 2020, "there was insufficient basis to establish a clear and present danger and deny the FOID application."

So to recap:
1. Crimo lived at home with his family who were absent while he was in school
2. He had committed a suicide attempt
3. He had threatened to kill his family
4. He made videos fantasizing about killing people
5. And despite all this his father sponsored him getting his gun registration and the family said nothing when he came home with 5 guns

[Devo]

AND....................... Now we have the facts.

It wasn't an AR15, it was another model of firearm that isn't anywhere near being an assault rifle.

So, there goes that FUDD accusation.

[Devo]

Also, attempted suicide is illegal in Illinois, he could have, and should have been charged, the charge alone would have gotten him on a list to prevent a firearms purchase.

[El-mo]

Originally Posted by Devo

OR, why nobody who wants to live safely should ever be in a liberal shithole city.


https://www.foxnews.com/us/chaos-eru...th-july-parade

What does a suburb 30 minutes outside of Chicago have to do with “liberal shit hole cities“? Let me give you a hint: absolutely fucking nothing, but your ideology is giving you brain worms.

Originally Posted by Devo

AND....................... Now we have the facts.

It wasn't an AR15, it was another model of firearm that isn't anywhere near being an assault rifle.

So, there goes that FUDD accusation.

It was an M&P 15, an AR-style weapon that fires the same rounds as an AR 15. You are being incredibly pedantic about a tragedy to try to score points in an argument that no one‘s actually having with you. Get a hobby.