I would never... EVER join P411.

[Daycreeper]

Seriously? I would never have sex again with another female before I would do this. I know they have a lot of members, but I am SHOCKED anyone actually would... unbelievable!!

"In order to set up your Preferred411 account we may need personal information such as your name, phone number, and work information."

no thanks.

[Anthonylewis50]

Nobody cares

[Wile E Coyote]

Originally Posted by Daycreeper

Seriously? I would never have sex again with another female before I would do this. I know they have a lot of members, but I am SHOCKED anyone actually would... unbelievable!!

"In order to set up your Preferred411 account we may need personal information such as your name, phone number, and work information."

no thanks.

When I set mine up, I did not give them any personal info, I was referred by several provider members.

[Grace Preston]

Originally Posted by Wile E Coyote

When I set mine up, I did not give them any personal info, I was referred by several provider members.

You've been a member for a very long time-- perhaps things are different now?

I know on the ladies side of things-- when I recently went to sign in-- I was asked to submit a list of things to keep my account active, despite having submitted most of them about 5 or 6 years ago... that honestly gave me pause, particularly after the Eros bust a few years back.

[Wile E Coyote]

Originally Posted by Grace Preston

You've been a member for a very long time-- perhaps things are different now?

I know on the ladies side of things-- when I recently went to sign in-- I was asked to submit a list of things to keep my account active, despite having submitted most of them about 5 or 6 years ago... that honestly gave me pause, particularly after the Eros bust a few years back.

Could be the new owners as I am sure Gina destroyed everything once she verified. Providers have free accounts, guys do not so the criteria for maintaining probably has to be different.

[pmdelites]

Originally Posted by Daycreeper

Seriously? I would never have sex again with another female before I would do this. I know they have a lot of members, but I am SHOCKED anyone actually would... unbelievable!!

"In order to set up your Preferred411 account we may need personal information such as your name, phone number, and work information."

no thanks.

SHOCKED??? just look at how many people get scammed every day by giving their info to strangers.
i would say "just goes to show how many uninformed & trusting (naive?) people there are in the world."
i'm sure that scams have been around for a long long time!
with the internet and technology, it's just easier these days.

also note that it states "In order to set up your Preferred411 account we may need personal information such as your name, phone number, ..."
and not that they require that info.

but more importantly, just share (w/ p411 or any provider) what you feel comfortable sharing.
no one is twisting your arm or doing CBT on you to get the info.

[Daycreeper]

Originally Posted by pmdelites

SHOCKED??? just look at how many people get scammed every day by giving their info to strangers.
i would say "just goes to show how many uninformed & trusting (naive?) people there are in the world."
i'm sure that scams have been around for a long long time!
with the internet and technology, it's just easier these days.

also note that it states "In order to set up your Preferred411 account we may need personal information such as your name, phone number, ..."
and not that they require that info.

but more importantly, just share (w/ p411 or any provider) what you feel comfortable sharing.
no one is twisting your arm or doing CBT on you to get the info.

Correct, shocked. It's the context. I'm NOT shocked scammers would ask such things. I AM shocked any escort board would expect someone to give out their REAL identity ESPECIALLY about their JOB! INCREDIBLE. And again, can't believe ANYONE would ever do such a stupid thing. smh!

[pmdelites]

Originally Posted by Daycreeper

Correct, shocked. It's the context. I'm NOT shocked scammers would ask such things. I AM shocked any guy reading escort boards would give out their REAL identity ESPECIALLY about their JOB! INCREDIBLE. And again, can't believe ANYONE would ever do such a stupid thing. smh!

slight edit.
even with all the incredible stuff going on in the world and in our little crazy sub-culture, i'm no longer shocked or amazed at the stupid things people do.

i look at all the crap going on and think "well, that's something i should not even attempt or promote. better to avoid a dangerous situation than have to deal with one."


(like last week, some guy killed an 70 or 80 yo woman in tarrant county (?). then stashed her in blankets in the bushes/trees in his back yard. guess that guy didnt watch crime/police shows to know where to hide/dispose of her body.)

[jan-w]

Every part of this subculture has a risk. Everyone just has to decide what risks he/she is willing to take. The gals want the money; The guys want to get laid. For those things people take all kinds of risks.

[TXSUN55000]

Been with P4 for over 5 years now and not the least bit worried about my information used to verify/establish account being compromised. I'm 99.9% sure that when I reach out to someone on P4 I won't end up in jail or robbed which is the reason to run with an account. Companion prices are so high now that I don't use it as much but the sense of security is worth the risk IMO.

[Bushjumper]

I joined P411 13 years ago, and never had any problems concerning the 'personal data' I sent to them at the time. It has smoothed the way for me to schedule a 'date' with any number of ladies who, once they know I am a P411 member with X number of 'OKs', are more than willing to make the booking.
And I did try to 'hobby' without P411 when I first began. As I recall, it was one SNAFU, or problem after another. P411 solved many of those problems. That and I 'only' schedule with P411 ladies.
........We now return you to your regularly scheduled programing......

[Wile E Coyote]

A couple of other things about P411 is, you can fill out your profile and do not have to repeat what you enjoy in/from a session you pay for over and over again when you contact different providers whom you have not seen BCD before and the references whom you have actually seen for sessions that a provider needs for screening is also right there on your profile.


P411 has been a godsend to me. Although there are only a handful of providers or so that I have seen for a second time or more, usually because most providers are all talk in the ads and communications then are just the opposite or fizzle out BCD, I would not have been able to see the number of ladies I have seen BCD otherwise.

Once they see the number of OKs, they realize the smack talk about me on other platforms are bullshit and even more so once they actually see me for a session and I leave after it is over. Sometimes tho, I do wish that the providers I was able to see the one time and would not repeat for one reason or another (my choice), would have listened to my haters and denied seeing me and I could have saved that money, but you live and learn.

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by Daycreeper

Seriously? I would never have sex again with another female before I would do this. I know they have a lot of members, but I am SHOCKED anyone actually would... unbelievable!!

"In order to set up your Preferred411 account we may need personal information such as your name, phone number, and work information."

no thanks.

If you have two or three references you don't really need P411 to hobby in Dallas with independent ladies. If you are not verified on P411 or OH2 most ladies will accept two references who are verified.

[Grace Preston]

P411 is a nice resource to have... but its becoming less and less the gold standard that it used to be-- on both sides of the hobby aisle. Part of that can squarely be laid at the feet of the fact that Gina is no longer running the show.

A lot of your higher end ladies, particularly in the NE-- don't have much respect for it as a screening tool and are still going to do their own screening, regardless of whether you have 2 or 200 OK's. Its a lot more popular in Texas.. largely due to the original presence of Private Connections way back in the day.

[TexTushHog]

I’m a big fan. I’d rather Gina still own it, but so far I haven’t had any issue with the new folks.