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Old 08-01-2019, 09:22 AM   #1
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Default Oops! MSNBC Post-Debate Poll Finds Only Around 27% of Voters Support Their Open Borders, ‘Free’ Healthcare, Reparations Agenda

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...ations-agenda/

Frankly, this is shocking. If you look at the video clip midway down the page, the poll basically says that nobody except extreme Democrats want "Open Borders" and reparations. The fact MSNBC admits this rings like an alarm bell.

So if 47% of Dems say that "Free Medical Care for Immigrants" is important but only 27% of all voters say it's important then that means ALMOST NOBODY outside extreme Dems are for it. That's assuming MSDNC did its usual dishonest sampling methodology.

The clips I saw from the debate last night made it sound like the audience was definitely salted. Loud female shrieks for stuff that was far leftist. It was held in Detroit which is heavily Dem and has it's hand constantly out.
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Old 08-01-2019, 09:28 AM   #2
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So on one hand you claim it to be shocking.

While you apparently find the figures telling -- as in "gotcha" -- you discount MSNBC as dishonest in its polling.

What's your point? You don't believe the numbers? Then why post a story from an obviously right wing spinsite?

I thought last night's debate had too much pandering to the far left and mugging for the local crowd.

However, if this poll tells us anything, it's that Democrats are more moderate than you dare believe. Even those watching MSNBC, which I won't watch.

I suppose there's a cloud in front of ever silver lining, eh?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Old 08-01-2019, 09:49 AM   #3
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...ations-agenda/

Frankly, this is shocking. If you look at the video clip midway down the page, the poll basically says that nobody except extreme Democrats want "Open Borders" and reparations. The fact MSNBC admits this rings like an alarm bell.

So if 47% of Dems say that "Free Medical Care for Immigrants" is important but only 27% of all voters say it's important then that means ALMOST NOBODY outside extreme Dems are for it. That's assuming MSDNC did its usual dishonest sampling methodology.

The clips I saw from the debate last night made it sound like the audience was definitely salted. Loud female shrieks for stuff that was far leftist. It was held in Detroit which is heavily Dem and has it's hand constantly out.
It's the nature of the primaries. They all need to out "left" each other to fight for those loud shrieks who are the ones turning out for the primaries. Then a sudden shift to the middle.

Unfortunately this cycle the extreme need to go left during the primaries is in my opinion going to hurt during the general election. It's hard not to be a total flip flopper if you campaign so hard on that far left.

Even Biden signing onto the green new deal will be fodder during the general election. And each candidates attack on him for not being extreme enough will be priceless clips if he gets the nomination. He could actually cause far left voters to stay home.

Its way too early to guess for sure, but it's certainly getting entertaining.
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Old 08-01-2019, 10:10 AM   #4
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I haven’t seen anybody who can challenge the front runners.

Especially Trump,
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Old 08-01-2019, 10:11 AM   #5
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So on one hand you claim it to be shocking.

While you apparently find the figures telling -- as in "gotcha" -- you discount MSNBC as dishonest in its polling.

What's your point? You don't believe the numbers? Then why post a story from an obviously right wing spinsite?


you know the gatewaypundit is right-wing how exactly?



I thought last night's debate had too much pandering to the far left and mugging for the local crowd.

However, if this poll tells us anything, it's that Democrats are more moderate than you dare believe. Even those watching MSNBC, which I won't watch.


Democratic voters. not the candidates. that's not gonna sell on election day, sport.



I suppose there's a cloud in front of ever silver lining, eh?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

is this another deflect, deny and and obfuscate post? what arya up to now? you'll break 46,000 by the end of the week.


BAHHAHHAHHAAAA
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Old 08-01-2019, 10:21 AM   #6
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Thank you for your response TWK.

Gateway Pundit is considered a far right blog.

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/gateway-pundit

And yes, voters are more moderate than you dare believe. Which is why they will elect someone other than the lunatic we now have in the White House.

Thanks again for youranalysis, TWK.
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Old 08-01-2019, 10:39 AM   #7
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Thank you for your response TWK.

Gateway Pundit is considered a far right blog.

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/gateway-pundit

And yes, voters are more moderate than you dare believe. Which is why they will elect someone other than the lunatic we now have in the White House.

Thanks again for youranalysis, TWK.
where does MSNBC fall on the chart? i'm guessing on the left ?? who's more left, MSNBC or CNN? does it matter .. to you that is ..

i dare? more like i know. the few democrats i know are turned off completely by the hard left shift of the DNC. they were turned off by Clinton on 2016. you should be very concerned that the DNC is hell-bent to nominate someone just as bad this time.

poor creepy joe. he's being handed his hat and doesn't even know it. a far left candidate will lose in 2020. All Democratic candidates support healthcare for ILLEGALS. that's a FAIL right there.

All Democratic candidates either outright endorse reparations or support studying it. what's the difference??

FAIL!!

Pre-Med or Pre-Law?? What's the difference!!


BAHHAHAAA
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Old 08-01-2019, 10:47 AM   #8
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Michael Moore says double down on the extreme candidate.

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“Let's get out the Democratic base of young people, women, and people of color.” Moore warned Democrats: “The worst thing to do is to moderate, to go to the center, and to think that's how we're going to win. This is how we're going to lose.”
You go Michael. Ignore the moderates.
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Old 08-01-2019, 10:50 AM   #9
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Michael Moore says double down on the extreme candidate.



You go Michael. Ignore the moderates.
he must live a in a bubble wherein his sole stimuli is other leftist of like mind causing him to think that's where America is
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I haven’t seen anybody who can challenge the front runners.

Especially Trump,
You thought tthat in 2016. A socialist agenda will make it worse in 20/20. Of course you don’t see that coming. Not one Democrat candidate has the charisma to command the stage and campaign like Trump. Especially Biden.
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Old 08-01-2019, 01:00 PM   #11
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where does MSNBC fall on the chart? i'm guessing on the left ?? who's more left, MSNBC or CNN? does it matter .. to you that is ..

i dare? more like i know. the few democrats i know are turned off completely by the hard left shift of the DNC. they were turned off by Clinton on 2016. you should be very concerned that the DNC is hell-bent to nominate someone just as bad this time.

poor creepy joe. he's being handed his hat and doesn't even know it. a far left candidate will lose in 2020. All Democratic candidates support healthcare for ILLEGALS. that's a FAIL right there.

All Democratic candidates either outright endorse reparations or support studying it. what's the difference??

FAIL!!

Pre-Med or Pre-Law?? What's the difference!!


BAHHAHAAA
I would argue that hildebeest was particularly evil "bad", but that the current crop of clowns are just ridiculous.

I do, however, have a marked degree of animus for the Hooker and Spartacus for their vicious attack on Kavanaugh and their intentional distortion of his record and his words.

At present I have no concern for what these clowns say on the debate stage, and I am satisfied to get by on the sound bites in the news about what they said. I have no say in who the dim-retards choose; so, it doesn't much matter at this time what each candidate's "message" is. It only matters after the dims select a candidate. But the current "leaders" in this pack of clowns are wholly unacceptable to me.
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he must live a in a bubble wherein his sole stimuli is other leftist of like mind causing him to think that's where America is
you realize he predicted Trump's victory, right?

I thought Moore made a cogent argument in favor of Warren/Sanders. not due to policy, but inspiration. he specifically said that is NOT where America is.. you must not have watched, or if you did, you missed the nuance in Moore's presentation
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you realize he predicted Trump's victory, right?

I thought Moore made a cogent argument in favor of Warren/Sanders. not due to policy, but inspiration. he specifically said that is NOT where America is.. you must not have watched, or if you did, you missed the nuance in Moore's presentation
I watched his lengthy droning on about it. He tried to portray where America is as where the far left ideology is right now. As the OP percentages show, he is a bit off base.

But that's Michael Moore and the far left's belief that they have a mandate.
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you realize he predicted Trump's victory, right?

I thought Moore made a cogent argument in favor of Warren/Sanders. not due to policy, but inspiration. he specifically said that is NOT where America is.. you must not have watched, or if you did, you missed the nuance in Moore's presentation
you realize he predicted Trump's victory, right?


yes, I heard he did that, and I, likewise, had already said the same to my intimates before he said that

you must not have watched, or if you did, you missed the nuance in Moore's presentation

You are correct there, I don't watch moore

I was only responding to the post I copied, that if he thinks doubling down with radicals is the thing to do, he must live in a bubble, else he's committing himself and others like him to the glorious flames as true soviet men and women (sounds of the internationale wafting through the halls)


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