Sugardaddy/Sugarbabe vs. Hobbiest/Provider

[Guest032112]

Ok, Rayne opened the door in the Arkansas forum for this discussion, so I'll walk through it.

Is a Sugardaddy relationship better, more rewarding, and/or more pleasureable than a Hobbiest/Provider relationship?

What are the real differences? Is exclusivity required? Can the two mix? What are the ground rules that need to be established for it to be successful? What success have you found on those sites targeted exclusively for the SD/SB deal?

I'll be interested to hear male and female perspective on the subject!

[MacTheKnife]

And here you go!

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[Guest032514-1]

I don't see a daddy/baby relationship working for me. I am Independent.

I can see the pros, but for me the cons outweigh them. I've never tried it, so there may be aspects and benefits that I'm not considering. I choose who, I choose when, where, how, how often. I don't think I'd be happy running to another person's schedule. (My Domme bleeding over?)

[kittendd]

It can mix depending on how mature the sb is. Its not a good idea if the sd in question doesnt like sharing. IF the sd doesnt like sharing then the sb either needs to stop being a provider for the duration of the sd/sb relationship , give up the sd or be prepared to deal with the drama of a sd

From a personal experience a sd/sb is alot more rewarding if you not a provider. Having a sd can give a sb some really cool life experienes , access to a life the sb may not have been able to afford otherwise but there is also the emotional connection that often develops with a sd that is just plain cool. you dont always get that kinda of honest emotional connection when you are a provider/hobbyist. Being exclusive should be decision reached between the sd and sb...Each sd/sb is different

Ground rules

Complete Commucation
Honesty at all cost
Understanding
Patience
Joint Respect
Joint decision making (meaning that the sd and sb should make the decision on how to their relationship will work



This is just my two sense though

Originally Posted by arklookn4lovn

Ok, Rayne opened the door in the Arkansas forum for this discussion, so I'll walk through it.

Is a Sugardaddy relationship better, more rewarding, and/or more pleasureable than a Hobbiest/Provider relationship?

What are the real differences? Is exclusivity required? Can the two mix? What are the ground rules that need to be established for it to be successful? What success have you found on those sites targeted exclusively for the SD/SB deal?

I'll be interested to hear male and female perspective on the subject!

[Miss Dreams]

I am Independent but I can also stay this way and be open to the other side as well, before doing this line of work I was spoiled by a sugar daddy from since I was 17, who spoiled and supported me in all areas... who then introuced me into this line of work when I turned 21... Personally being a provider and being a sugar baby are both are just about the same even thou each have a little diff. twists to them, I have found this line of work to be about the same provider/sb because alot of my clients spoil me and pamper me so it's the same, with variety!!... I enjoy both and wouldn't just do one or the other because I would never want to quit what I am doing for just one person... I enjoy making many happy and they keep me happy, so the world goes around...Thanks to everyone who does help me! LUV YALL

[Bimboknocker]

Mac, thank you, for leading me to Shyster's post, very well thought out. I have been wondering about the SD/SB relationship.

[Guest032514-1]

Originally Posted by MissDreams

.. I.... wouldn't just do one or the other because I would never want to quit what I am doing for just one person... I enjoy making many happy and they keep me happy, so the world goes around...Thanks to everyone who goes help me! LUV YALL

Along with answering to someone else, this is the biggest "No." factor for me. I think I have developed a serious case of sexual ADD. I really enjoy the variety. It'd be really hard to give up. I love looking at the week ahead and thinking "Oh I have "Ride 'Em Cowgirl" on Monday, Seduction Tuesday, Spanky on Wed, Thursday Toys, and Big Bang Friday". Keeps a big smile on my face and a spring in my step. My little cruiser is used to being driven almost daily. Once a week?!?! What if it rusted from misuse? Started misfiring?

I think it would be a beneficial for younger ladies. I think every 20 yr old should have an older generous lover. Seems like it'd be a great way to learn about sexuality vs sex.

[i812-)]

Hey Arklookin, having been a sugar daddy a few times I will share my experience.
I did not find it more rewarding in fact I found it to be more stressful dealing with their drama and whinning for cash. Although the risks are less unless your answering an ad on the internet I found that I paid HDH rates for craigslist discount services. depending on the fees being paid will depend if you are exclusive for me it didnt matter as along as she was available when I wanted. If you want a SB you better have deep pockets as they usually want thousands a month.

Number one rule about a SD/SB role is your comfort level of giving cash on a monthly basis. For me it only happened on date night, everyother time I gave cash in advance I never heard back from them. Nothing against Rayne but I am pretty sure her SD feels he got ripped and is pissed. But that is the risk you take. LOL Pesonally I think your better off with a porn and lube than a SB.

[Bimboknocker]

LOL Pesonally I think your better off with a porn and lube than a SB.

812, I've felt that way when I was married, and with a well reviewed provider. For some reason I am the one who gets the ymmv bullshit.

[i812-)]

Hey Bimbo I know how you feel. In fact just the other day someone asked why I dont get divorced? I replied, are you kidding me, after 20 years of marriage I just learned how to piss her off. I have to get even first.

[Guest032112]

Thanks for weighing in. And Mac, thanks for the link to Shyster John's treatise - one of the best I've seen and he does make very good points. I've done the SD/SB thing more than once and have, for the most part had good experiences. With that in mind, perhaps you can understand why I didn't put my 2 cents in to begin with.

Originally Posted by babee

I think I have developed a serious case of sexual ADD. I really enjoy the variety. It'd be really hard to give up. I love looking at the week ahead and thinking "Oh I have "Ride 'Em Cowgirl" on Monday, Seduction Tuesday, Spanky on Wed, Thursday Toys, and Big Bang Friday". Keeps a big smile on my face and a spring in my step......

Maybe I'm unusual, but whether its in the context of a sd/sb, hobby, so, or marriage, we are talking about the most intimate of human contact. On one hand some of the most incredible sex (determined by multiple encounters, but that might be another thread) I've ever had has been in the context of being very familiar and comfortable relationship between the two parties whether it was in a sd/sb arrangement or in the hobby.

Babee makes a good point about the variety. Frequent variety is an advantage providers might have over the rest of us since for most of us frequent variety is economically unrealistic. LOL

Originally Posted by babee

I think it would be a beneficial for younger ladies. I think every 20 yr old should have an older generous lover. Seems like it'd be a great way to learn about sexuality vs sex.

Good point and one I've never thought about since I've always looked for a "connection". Perhaps that "connection" has come from the 30 (and up) lover who has more life experience and arrangement was more instantly gratifiying because the difference was known and wasn't taught.

Originally Posted by i812-)

. . . .I found that I paid HDH rates for craigslist discount services. depending on the fees being paid will depend if you are exclusive for me it didnt matter as along as she was available when I wanted. If you want a SB you better have deep pockets as they usually want thousands a month. . . .

Shyster John's treatise validates my experience - there can be a SB for just about any SD budget. Deep pockets aren't aways necessary. For a guy, Babee's variety requires deep pockets! Depending on the ground rules, sometimes you get what you pay for. Sometimes it works out great for both parties. On the flip side, I found that the traditional SB was totally unaware of the hobby and some bedroom activities were more exploratory that brought a fresh excitement to the arrangement.

Originally Posted by i812-)

. . . Nothing against Rayne but I am pretty sure her SD feels he got ripped and is pissed. But that is the risk you take. . .

Can't this type of reaction happen in any type of relationship when a break-up occurs?

Comments or other thoughts anyone?

[Texan1965]

What's cheaper?????

[bluffcityguy]

Originally Posted by arklookn4lovn

For a guy, Babee's variety requires deep pockets!

Or patience. Depending on the timeframe you're looking at, I've played with many, many providers (over my entire career, which goes back around thirty years now) or not many at all (none in the last six months, for example).

Though I suppose that if you tally up all I've spent on the hobby in that thirty years, then yes, "deep pockets" might apply. I prefer to think of my pockets as being shallow, but broad.



Cheers,

bcg

[Guest032514-1]

Ar, let's look at it this way.

I believe shyster's treatise referenced the 2k option the most with a minimum of two 2 hour dates a week, one being bcd and one being non bcd? That's 500 a week for two hours bcd.

He also discussed that exclusivity did not have to be a condition.

Based solely on those two criteria, I am a SB. I'm just 50 less per week or 200 less a month.

I'm not knocking this type relationship at all. I suggest that people need to evaluate what they are looking for in any p4p agreement.

[Skilar Rayne]

None taken........I will not be a fool and do it again... So I do knock the sd/sb relationships, too much like a real one... not for me! You all opionions have enlightened me as well.....

Rayne