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Old 10-05-2012, 10:58 PM   #1
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Default Who Owns The Federal Reserve?

“Some people think that the Federal Reserve Banks are United States Government institutions. They are private monopolies which prey upon the people of these United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers; foreign and domestic speculators and swindlers; and rich and predatory money lenders.”
– The Honorable Louis McFadden, Chairman of the House Banking and Currency Committee in the 1930s
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Old 10-06-2012, 12:00 AM   #2
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The Federal Reserve is not owned by anyone. It's not a private-profit making institution. The Federal Reserve derives it's authority from congress.
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Old 10-06-2012, 05:02 AM   #3
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Rothschild Banks of London and Berlin
Lazard Brothers Banks of Paris
Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy
Warburg Bank of Hamburg and Amsterdam
Lehman Brothers of New York
Kuhn, Loeb Bank of New York
Chase Manhatten Bank, and
Goldman, Sachs of New York (Kah, p. 13).
He also described these groups as the bank’s “
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Old 10-06-2012, 05:14 AM   #4
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The Federal Reserve is not owned by anyone. It's not a private-profit making institution. The Federal Reserve derives it's authority from congress.
Sorry sir, Thats not a fact.. It is a for profit company.

Congress has been attempting to audit the Fed Reserve for decades.

Every Chairman ever appointed has been approved by Congress. BUT that is the only authority we the people have over the Fed Reserve.

Do a little homework on it and what you find should piss u off.... It should piss off every American...

Just like qe3 did you happen to notice the other day Bernake makes the announcement to print 40 billion bucks a month as long as he wants WITH no authority from anyone. Did the news say they are waiting for approval from congress >>>>> NO >>>>> Think about what you said sir...
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"Congress" hasn't tried to audit the FR.
But some members have.

The Republican led House has approved an audit, but this attempt has been blocked by Obama supporter (And Democrat) Harry Reid!!!
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Old 10-06-2012, 07:05 AM   #6
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"Congress" hasn't tried to audit the FR.
But some members have.

The Republican led House has approved an audit, but this attempt has been blocked by Obama supporter (And Democrat) Harry Reid!!!
You are right sir, i did not state my opinion correctly. The reality is Congressman Ron Paul has led the fight to audit the fed for 3 decades.

There was a push by Pres Kennedy back in the 60s to either end the fed or at least check their books, of coarse he was assassinated not long after he began the effort.

The Govt has not printed its own money since 1913 when Pres. Wilson signed the law...

The 40 billion a month QE3 to buy mortgage back securities by the Fed Reserve goes through Goldman - Sachs, and i understand they reap huge profits.. So the Fed prints our money and charges us ( the citizens of the USA ), buys these securities from a bank ( G/S ) THAT is part of the ownership of the Fed, then G/S charges us ( the citizens OF THE USA) commission..... Sometimes i wonder if good old Pres. Wilson was on the Rothschild payroll..
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If they audited the Fed Bernanke and all those idiots would go to fucking jail.
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Sorry sir, Thats not a fact.. It is a for profit company.

Congress has been attempting to audit the Fed Reserve for decades.

Every Chairman ever appointed has been approved by Congress. BUT that is the only authority we the people have over the Fed Reserve.

Do a little homework on it and what you find should piss u off.... It should piss off every American...

Just like qe3 did you happen to notice the other day Bernake makes the announcement to print 40 billion bucks a month as long as he wants WITH no authority from anyone. Did the news say they are waiting for approval from congress >>>>> NO >>>>> Think about what you said sir...
Noticed I said Private profit making. Besides the Fed is not a company it's a Financial institution there is a difference. Maybe you should do some homework yourself.
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To me.... an independent agency is private.
Alan Greenspan @ 7:38, Ben Bernanke @ 1:30 and the two puppets @ 4:40 running for office seem to agree.

Who owns the FED? Audit the Federal Reserve, to be 100% sure, maybe? Bank regulatory agencies regarding stock ownership in the top 25 US bank holding companies were given Freedom of Information Act status, before being denied on national security grounds. So lets concentrate and focus on what is known.

US Trust Corporation – founded in 1853 and now owned by Bank of America. A recent US Trust Corporate Director and Honorary Trustee was Walter Rothschild. Other directors included Daniel Davison of JP Morgan Chase, Richard Tucker of Exxon Mobil, Daniel Roberts of Citigroup and Marshall Schwartz of Morgan Stanley.

Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup and Wells Fargo own Exxon Mobil, Royal Dutch/Shell, BP and Chevron Texaco; in tandem with Deutsche Bank, BNP, Barclays and other European families, old money.

According to company 10K filings to the SEC, the Four elites of banking are among the top ten stock holders of virtually every Fortune 500 corporation.

Top five American banks.
JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America, Citigroup, Wells Fargo, and Goldman Sachs

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Some of their Minyons, in no particular order...

Bank for International Settlements

IMF -- International Monetary Fund

The World Bank Group

The Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development

Federal Open Market Committee
2012 - The members of the FOMC

Ben S. Bernanke, Board of Governors, Chairman
William C. Dudley, New York
Elizabeth A. Duke, Board of Governors
Jeffrey M. Lacker, Richmond
Dennis P. Lockhart, Atlanta
Sandra Pianalto, Cleveland
Sarah Bloom Raskin, Board of Governors
Daniel K. Tarullo, Board of Governors
John C. Williams, San Francisco
Janet L. Yellen, Board of Governors, Vice Chairman

Alternate Members
James Bullard, St. Louis
Charles L. Evans, Chicago
Esther George, Kansas City
Eric S. Rosengren, Boston
Christine M. Cumming, First Vice President, New York

Working Group on Financial Markets - Group of Thirty

Internal Revenue Service - (1984 Grace Commission Report)

Exchange Stabilization Fund

Export-Import Bank of the United States
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Rothschild Banks of London and Berlin
Lazard Brothers Banks of Paris
Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy
Warburg Bank of Hamburg and Amsterdam
Lehman Brothers of New York
Kuhn, Loeb Bank of New York
Chase Manhatten Bank, and
Goldman, Sachs of New York (Kah, p. 13).
He also described these groups as the bank’s “
You cited a document published in 1976.

And it names a LOT of banks. Yet you cited only a handful of names - most if not all are very Jewish sounding. Got some kind of message for us?
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Noticed I said Private profit making. Besides the Fed is not a company it's a Financial institution there is a difference. Maybe you should do some homework yourself.
ACP5762 ( The Federal Reserve is not owned by anyone. It's not a private-profit making institution. The Federal Reserve derives it's authority from congress.)

ACP you said its NOT owned any anyone AND you said ITS not a private profit making institution >>>> OK I AM sure as hell not going to argue with you, think whatever you want.... I merely suggested you look into it and pass your own judgement. So these people started the Fed Reserve in 1913 , wont allow anyone to see the books, thumb their nose at everyone from the President on down, do whatever in the hell they want to with the monetary policy in the USA, HAVE GIVEN TRILLIONS TO banks in Europe and no telling what else. AND you think they get there authority from Congress, well please dont be offended but what in the fuck are you smokin ? Cause its some good shit.... or did you ride the short bus with a helmet on.........
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ACP5762 ( The Federal Reserve is not owned by anyone. It's not a private-profit making institution. The Federal Reserve derives it's authority from congress.)

ACP you said its NOT owned any anyone AND you said ITS not a private profit making institution >>>> OK I AM sure as hell not going to argue with you, think whatever you want.... I merely suggested you look into it and pass your own judgement. So these people started the Fed Reserve in 1913 , wont allow anyone to see the books, thumb their nose at everyone from the President on down, do whatever in the hell they want to with the monetary policy in the USA, HAVE GIVEN TRILLIONS TO banks in Europe and no telling what else. AND you think they get there authority from Congress, well please dont be offended but what in the fuck are you smokin ? Cause its some good shit.... or did you ride the short bus with a helmet on.........
Read a little closer. I said the Fed is not owned by anyONE. So you read something off the Internet and now you are an expert. always remember when you post a link and then cut someone down about little inconsistancies really doesn't make you look that much more knowledgable.
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Old 10-06-2012, 09:28 PM   #13
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When the Republicans controlled both house and senate when bush was president why didn't they audit the Fed then. The truth is that the banks that run the fed own both parties.
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When the Republicans controlled both house and senate when bush was president why didn't they audit the Fed then. The truth is that the banks that run the fed own both parties.
In other words it's to late. They got the Gov't by the short hairs.
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Old 10-06-2012, 11:18 PM   #15
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That's too logical, big Louie. These jag offs can't engage on logical debate ...

BTW, Debbie, how's business?
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