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02-19-2013, 12:00 AM
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The New Wave is arriving in the GOP
This is where the party is going and it will ruffle a lot of feathers.
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Like Martin Luther (not MLK but the German priest of the Middle Ages) who held the sacred script of the Bible up to Church leadership and indicted Rome for running directly contrary to what Jesus and the Bible advocated, Ron Paul has done something similar with the US Constitution.
During the 2008 and 2012 presidential campaigns Ron Paul essentially posted his political “Theses” for all the world to see. The priests and bishops of politics had abandoned the both the spirit and the letter of most important document in American politics, The Constitution. It was time to address the problem.
Ron Paul’s message has taken root. A new group of leaders is emerging within the GOP which has no problem at all with pot or gays, but does have a problem with the an ever expanding war machine, and corporate welfare. They are pro-freedom, pro-liberty, even if that puts them at odds with traditional GOP positions (or at least GOP positions since the New Deal.)
This New Wave also recognizes that a void has opened up due to a lack of moral leadership within the GOP. How is it that “the party of small government” has for decades expanded government? G W Bush expanded government on par with Lyndon Baines Johnson. The old guard has failed. Now, even the old guard knows it.
The National Review is starting to see what’s going on. We’ll give The Weekly Standard until 2014.
(From The National Review)
As the GOP’s support from college students and recent grads is floundering, it’s important to remember that the grassroots, nationwide liberty movement that Ron Paul helped spearhead is alive and kicking — Students for Liberty had its first conference in 2008, with 100 students. Since then, it’s grown exponentially, and that’s not a fluke. If the Republican party as we know it wants to exist in 20 years, it should take notice.
The only hope for the Republicans to remain viable is to embrace the Liberty Movement.
Read more here: http://www.againstcronycapitalism.or...t-of-feathers/
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02-19-2013, 12:13 AM
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Sounds a lot like the TEA Party movement. More concerned with fiscal problems and the Constitution than foreign policy and social policy. Of course some fools have heard (and believe)something different.
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02-19-2013, 08:02 AM
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I think it's generally accepted by now that if you look at the results of the 2012 election, the Republican party has to evolve (no pun intended given the other threads on this forum) or die. The Democratic party had to undergo a similar evolve or die situation in the 90's and so here's to hoping the GOP becomes sane again.
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02-19-2013, 12:32 PM
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First, get rid of the rinos. Then crush the fucking libtards, won't be hard either, when the economy take a total dump under this cocksucker.
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02-19-2013, 12:51 PM
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Yeah, the RINOs need to form their own party...the Tea Party. Gonna take more than a new wave for the GOP to be relevant again nationally. It's gonna take SEA CHANGE!
BTW -- nice mouth seedy.
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02-19-2013, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
Yeah, the RINOs need to form their own party...the Tea Party. Gonna take more than a new wave for the GOP to be relevant again nationally. It's gonna take SEA CHANGE!
BTW -- nice mouth seedy.
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Thanks sup, the kind words are greatly appreciated..
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02-19-2013, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jbravo_123
I think it's generally accepted by now that if you look at the results of the 2012 election,the Republican party has to evolve (no pun intended given the other threads on this forum) or die. The Democratic party had to undergo a similar evolve or die situation in the 90's and so here's to hoping the GOP becomes sane again.
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My concern is not for the survival of the Republican Party. My concern is for the survival of the Constitution and freedom.
The Republican Party may well survive and flourish by completely whoring itself out and becoming indistinguishable from the Democratic Party; what would be the point.
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02-19-2013, 04:27 PM
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Sadly, the message of this new GOP won't resonate.....the decline of America is cast in stone...and for that decline (and re-birth) to happen means one of the 2 major parties has to become so irrelevant that it is basically walking dead.......with that comes the supremacy of Progressive Socialism and the rapid demise of American wealth, power, influence.....America's decline is in the early stages, it doesn't look like it can be reversed without us slipping farther into the abyss.....
American voters have spoken and when it comes to national elections they want the politics of self destruction !
But Constitutional Conservatives should still try to stop the implosion; but they have no chance of winning the White House....that is in the hands of Democrats for several election cycles to come.....the demographic trends of America are a bitch for Constitutional conservatives.
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02-19-2013, 04:34 PM
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I like the analogy of comparing Ron Paul to Martin Luther. Martin Luther was a life long Catholic who finally reached his tipping point with Catholicism. The thing that pushed Luther over the edge was the selling of "indulgences." The Catholic Church had gotten so desparate for money that they sold indulgences as a way to avoid severe penances, required by the Church.
The Protestant Reformation, began by Luther, was made possible, largely because of Gutenberg's recent invention of the printing press, which made it possible for everyone to own a Bible, and read it for themselves, rather than depending on the Catholic church to tell them what it said. Maybe the Internet will be the tool we need to have a Reformation of freedom.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indulgence
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02-19-2013, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Whirlaway
Sadly, the message of this new GOP won't resonate.....the decline of America is cast in stone...and for that decline (and re-birth) to happen means one of the 2 major parties has to become so irrelevant that it is basically walking dead.......with that comes the supremacy of Progressive Socialism and the rapid demise of American wealth, power, influence.....America's decline is in the early stages, it doesn't look like it can be reversed without us slipping farther into the abyss.....
American voters have spoken and when it comes to national elections they want the politics of self destruction !
But Constitutional Conservatives should still try to stop the implosion; but they have no chance of winning the White House....that is in the hands of Democrats for several election cycles to come.....the demographic trends of America are a bitch for Constitutional conservatives.
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I share your pessimism about the immediate prospects for freedom in America.
Europe went through the Dark Ages, a time when the wisdom of the ancient Greeks was buried by the Catholic Church.
After the Dark Ages, there was a Renaissance, when the truth discovered by Aristotle, Socrates and Plato re-emerged. The truth contained in the Constitution can be ignored for a time, but it will never cease being the truth, waiting for a new generation to claim it.
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02-19-2013, 06:29 PM
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Imagine that, Trendaway and Joe the Bloehard doing a reach around on each other in an Eccie National Sandbox thread.
As I recall, they were doing the same thing on November 5, 2012.
How did that group reach around work out for you Log Cabiners?
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02-19-2013, 06:59 PM
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02-19-2013, 07:01 PM
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Nice photo, Whiny. Who did his makeup?
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02-19-2013, 08:18 PM
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True Words
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02-19-2013, 08:18 PM
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I love it when people think we have a two party system. We have Republicans who think they can run social programs better than Democrats. Its all one big party to me and we are all going down for the count.
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