The next Libtard Attempt to rip-off hard working Americans

[berryberry]

AOC Says Taxpayers Should Have to Pay Her $17K Student Loan—Even Though She Makes $174K a Year

As a member of Congress, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez makes a whopping $174,000 annually, meaning that she individually earns more than twice the average U.S. household’s income. Yet the progressive Democrat nonetheless thinks that working-class taxpayers should have to pay off her student loan debt.

That’s one of the main takeaways from Ocasio-Cortez’s latest speech on the House floor. In the congresswoman’s remarks, she issued yet another factually challenged and morally distorted plea for “student debt cancellation,” a progressive euphemism for having taxpayers pay off approximately $1.6 trillion in student loan debt. (The loans aren’t “canceled” magically but paid off by taxpayers. Congress can’t just make debts go away.)

https://fee.org/articles/aoc-says-ta...s-174k-a-year/

[bambino]

Shows you what an economics degree is worth these days.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by bambino

Shows you what an economics degree is worth these days.

Yeah - AOC needs to ask her college for a refund

[DrivesAllDay]

She is the handicapped kid in class they bring out to throw a basketball or make a touch down for a home game as a feel good gesture.


If you haven't heard, she also doesnt believe the "smash & grab" robberies happened.

[berryberry]

I think AOC in her case also stands for All Out Crazy

[eyecu2]

Do any of you support any of the student loan grants (federal or state) currently in place? Do you support the idea of community colleges being tuition free or part of a program in any case where either a means test, or perhaps a completion of the same would grant the graduate a tax deduction equal to the tuition they paid? There are numerous reviews of cases of the economics that supports providing those situations where the added income tax of those with degree's becomes a plus net gain to offset the benefits of a degree and incentivizing ppl to get them.

[Jacuzzme]

Fine, but I want a refund on the several hundred K I spent actually paying for my kids educations.

[eyecu2]

I'm not suggesting free 4 yr degrees but training for either a trade or associate level degree where costs don't include room / board etc but rather tuition only. I realize many trades are that way with joining of a union and dues etc, but what about ppl who are interested in non trades work. I think a total of 8-12k is about the cost for an associate degree at most local PA community colleges. A more educated workforce means generally higher incomes and higher potential taxes from income to localities. Not trying to tie this to private schools or your elite colleges. It's kinda like how in-state tuition used to be cheap for state schools. My undergrad back in the 80s was 7 grand in tuition...now that college costs 56k in tuition only. This is absurd, and yeah they made college super posh compared to what it was as far as dorms etc...but I'm not including that expense in this. I'm talking about local community schools where the location is commutable. I would totally support those schools for a tuition assistance or taxable write-off. These ppl would be much better investments than other social programs that have a zero sum gain potential. At least here is a potential for positive net results.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

Do any of you support any of the student loan grants (federal or state) currently in place? Do you support the idea of community colleges being tuition free

Hell no. Someone wants to go to college, they need to pay for it themselves (unless the college or some private entity gives them a scholarship - not the taxpayers)

I paid for my own college. Paid for my kid. Why the fuck should I pay for some other kids? If they want to go, their parents should pay or the kid should pay by enrolling in a real major that will lead to a good job

Also, four other points:

1. A lot of kids should not be attending college. They would be better off taking up a trade. Should electricians, sheet metal workers, mill hunkies, etc. pay for someone else to go to college to party and earn some degree in a garbage liberal arts field that qualify them to work at a fucking Starbucks?

2. Colleges to some extent are a scam. In two ways - one with some of the worthless fields of study (there are some legit fields but many other worthless ones), but moreso in that they are way overpriced. And the reason many of them became overpriced is thanks to government loans. Costs exploded when the gov't provided loans for kids to attend college. Costs will explode even more if the Government forces all taxpayers to pay for other people's college.

3. Nearly all colleges are far too left- the indoctrination of our youth by sick leftists must stop. I certainly don't want to pay for that

4, Community college is already subsidized and dirt cheap for those who desire it

[DrivesAllDay]

For some useful degrees, I would have no problem if a year or two was free.

[paintedbynumbers]

How many hundreds of thousands of people had to pay ridiculous ammts of money to attend college? I know I did. How many people had to work 2-3 jobs in order to pay for college? And now because everyone gets a trophy they want to allow everyone a free ride? Fuck that noise. If they want to go back and credit every single person who had to pay student loans back the money it's one thing but this generous is already lazy and entitled and now we are making it easier for them to be this way. Nobody wants to work anymore and this right here is why. Free rides for everyone.

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by paintedbynumbers

How many hundreds of thousands of people had to pay ridiculous ammts of money to attend college? I know I did. How many people had to work 2-3 jobs in order to pay for college? And now because everyone gets a trophy they want to allow everyone a free ride? Fuck that noise. If they want to go back and credit every single person who had to pay student loans back the money it's one thing but this generous is already lazy and entitled and now we are making it easier for them to be this way. Nobody wants to work anymore and this right here is why. Free rides for everyone.

... Eyecu2 got a solid point or two there, but yeah, IF the
government forgives monnies from these loans NOW,
a bleedin' LOT of people - who PAYED their-own
college are surely gonna be bluer than a shithouse rat!

And the lawsuits against university ALL ACROSS THE LAND
will start.

just sayin'

#### Salty

[anmar85]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

I'm not suggesting free 4 yr degrees but training for either a trade or associate level degree where costs don't include room / board etc but rather tuition only. I realize many trades are that way with joining of a union and dues etc, but what about ppl who are interested in non trades work. I think a total of 8-12k is about the cost for an associate degree at most local PA community colleges. A more educated workforce means generally higher incomes and higher potential taxes from income to localities. Not trying to tie this to private schools or your elite colleges. It's kinda like how in-state tuition used to be cheap for state schools. My undergrad back in the 80s was 7 grand in tuition...now that college costs 56k in tuition only. This is absurd, and yeah they made college super posh compared to what it was as far as dorms etc...but I'm not including that expense in this. I'm talking about local community schools where the location is commutable. I would totally support those schools for a tuition assistance or taxable write-off. These ppl would be much better investments than other social programs that have a zero sum gain potential. At least here is a potential for positive net results.

I think a majority of people in this country support this idea. There's clearly some potential benefits to making community college free at point of service. Sadly we happen to live in a national community where we need to weigh the potential benefits of change equally with people saying "Fuck that! If stuff sucked for me it should have to suck for everyone else!"


It's almost like we need a barrier for entry in education so that some groups can stay less educated than others.

[eyecu2]

I will add this, and that is "perception of value". Some people do not give two shits about something that's free, so I'm not suggesting that college should be "free"., As it would intrinsically become less valuable in some people's minds. But I think that if someone can write off that expense 100% against earned income let's say over 2 to 5 year period, or something similar, then it really becomes valuable to not only the person who attended School, but also valuable to the overall net increase to the coffers of local state taxes. Reason being is that likely their increased incomes would offset any of those write-offs by comparison. I think there are likely a few other alternatives as well, but my input is that we're not looking to make it "free up front", but rather offset the expense of community college or a trade school , so to make it affordable for those who want to go, and make use of their trades by creating income. Not those who are looking just to get a degree and sit on their ass. That is not the intent

[bambino]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

I will add this, and that is "perception of value". Some people do not give two shits about something that's free, so I'm not suggesting that college should be "free"., As it would intrinsically become less valuable in some people's minds. But I think that if someone can write off that expense 100% against earned income let's say over 2 to 5 year period, or something similar, then it really becomes valuable to not only the person who attended School, but also valuable to the overall net increase to the coffers of local state taxes. Reason being is that likely their increased incomes would offset any of those write-offs by comparison. I think there are likely a few other alternatives as well, but my input is that we're not looking to make it "free up front", but rather offset the expense of community college or a trade school , so to make it affordable for those who want to go, and make use of their trades by creating income. Not those who are looking just to get a degree and sit on their ass. That is not the intent

How about abolishing the Federal Income tax and the IRS. Both unconstitutional


I guess you're not aware that income taxes are unlawful and against the original Constitution for the Republic. By not paying my income taxes, I'm testing the waters and since they agreed to give me until 2022, it gives me time to wait and see what happens with NESARA. We know that income taxes are abolished under NESARA because they are unlawful.